The Wild Finals Of Our Best Artist Bracket

Cold Open And Bracket Hype

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Please no.

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Ladies and gentlemen, after weeks of competition, controversy, questionable voting, and Chris saying enough wildly inappropriate shit that I could probably release an entire bonus episode just of the things that I had to cut. We have reached the championship. This is it. One winner, one final argument. Let's talk about it. I fucking love that. I'm the worst person to have a podcast. I can barely.

Weekend Updates And Outback Steak

SPEAKER_00 1:06

What's up, everyone? Welcome back to the show. I am your host, Harley, joined by my co-hosts and little sisters, Taylor and Chris. Like we were just saying, we do have the final episode of the bracket today. You've been waiting for it. Episode four of the bracket today. But first, as always, Taylor, what's going on in your neck of the woods?

SPEAKER_05 1:38

Oh, I went to Outback on Friday. So that was exciting. I didn't do much yesterday, and I performed surgery today.

SPEAKER_00 1:47

Alright, hold on. We have to we have to break all of that down. So you went to Outback. You didn't get a steak. There's no way you got a steak.

SPEAKER_05 1:54

I did.

SPEAKER_00 1:55

You got a steak?

SPEAKER_05 1:56

I did. I got a steak. And a baked potato with bacon and cheese. And a side salad. And I got a koala punch drink, which came with a tiny little koala duck on it.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

I like that. That's pretty cool. It was pretty fun. The the potato? You didn't get sour cream on the potato?

SPEAKER_05 2:16

I don't like sour cream.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

You're crazy. You're crazy.

SPEAKER_05 2:19

I don't like it.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

Can't don't like you performed surgery?

SPEAKER_05 2:24

I did. You know Muffin?

SPEAKER_00 2:26

Like the dog? From Bluey?

SPEAKER_05 2:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:29

Wait, okay. Who lives on Drury Lane? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 2:33

Did you know the Muffin Man? No, my my dog Muffin, my orange dog that I've been sleeping with since I was like six.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Oh, okay. I I I vaguely remember. Okay, sure. So what did you do? You sewed it? What'd you butterfly stitch that thing?

SPEAKER_05 3:01

Yeah. The backstory is he had a tumor. Backstory, get it? Um he had a tumor. So I had to sew it back up.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

I see. I see. Did you remove the tumor?

SPEAKER_05 3:14

I did. I just opened him up and then I left it to make sure it was there.

SPEAKER_00 3:19

He had a tumor, so I just got in there, went, checked on it, made sure. Checked on it.

SPEAKER_05 3:23

It's like when the check engine lights on in the car, and then you open the hood to make sure the engine's still there, then you shut it.

SPEAKER_00 3:27

You're like, yeah, no, it's good.

SPEAKER_05 3:29

Anyways, that was my weekend.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

Said check engine. I checked the engine. It's still there. It's still there.

Bullet Tank Talk And Nerd Tests

SPEAKER_00 3:36

Chris, what's going on in your neck of the woods, brother?

SPEAKER_02 3:40

Nothing new.

SPEAKER_00 3:42

All right.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

Nothing new.

SPEAKER_05 3:46

I I wish. I wish I did something exciting. I really do.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

It's it's crazy that the guy says nothing new, yet I see a new Lego Pikachu behind you. I I see what seems to be a tank made out of possibly batteries. I'm not entirely sure. No, none of this stuff is new.

SPEAKER_05 4:06

That's made out of bullets.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

It's a bullet tank.

SPEAKER_05 4:11

Honestly, that's poetic.

SPEAKER_02 4:15

That's been up there for a while. It's just normally below my shoulder.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Recently, I found out that Chris loves tanks. Like on an autistic level.

SPEAKER_05 4:24

Yeah, I was gonna say, Chris, I do have a test for you to take then.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

I have two books on tanks.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

It's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

You're not denying those allegations.

SPEAKER_02 4:36

Yikes. We need to do a poll. We need to do a poll. Like, if you could own a tank, would you own a tank?

SPEAKER_05 4:44

Well, the obvious answer is yes. Do I get to shoot people with my tank?

SPEAKER_00 4:51

No. No, shooting people is wrong, Taylor. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:55

So then why do I have the tank? This isn't like this isn't Animal Crossing. I can't just get random things and put them places.

SPEAKER_02 5:03

Why do people have jacked up trucks? They're overcompensated.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

I don't have those either. So, Chris, tell me about this tank behind you made of bullets. What kind of tank is it? Autistic, Chris.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

I don't know. No kind of tank. Sherman, maybe? Not no, not really.

SPEAKER_05 5:26

It's the worst kind of autism.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

Let's break it down. Look, it it really doesn't have a chassis. You know what I mean? It's all track.

SPEAKER_00 5:36

All track.

SPEAKER_02 5:37

It's all track.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

All track, no bass.

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Hang on, hold it still so I can count how many bullets are there.

SPEAKER_00 5:47

Who made said tank? China. China. So tell me tell me a fun fact that you know about tanks, Chris.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

I I like them.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

What is a Sherman? I don't know what a Sherman is.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

A Sherman tank? Okay, so it's the tank that America like mass produced in World War II.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

And what tank did everybody else use?

SPEAKER_02 6:21

Well, I mean, the only other tank we're talking about is a you know, either a tiger or a panzer. And those were that German painters guys, they're his tanks.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

Are Panzers good tanks?

SPEAKER_02 6:32

I would say yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:33

I mean, they took on most.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

I don't own one though, so you know. I'm asking, you're my tank guy. I'm I'm I don't know anything about tanks.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

I didn't brush up on tank research. Everybody knows though that the Germans did have the coolest stuff.

SPEAKER_05 6:47

That checks out. And they were just trying to give it to everybody else, and then we shut them down real quick. They had whoa charity. How's it gone, guys? Yeah, that was funny. That was funny. You guys know it.

SPEAKER_00 7:10

I I was gonna I was gonna say something, but it seems like nothing now. Man, you you really took that plane right into the tower. Yeah, buddy. Here's a second one. Um come on.

SPEAKER_05 7:27

I I go ahead, Taylor.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

Say something to get us canceled.

SPEAKER_05 7:31

Oh, I know. Okay, so this might be a complaint. Wait, are we done talking about Chris's tanks? I don't want to take the the Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's move on. Yes. Chris's tank. Okay, perfect.

Walmart Pickup Spots Rant

SPEAKER_05 7:39

So I went to go pick up groceries today. I went to Walmart to pick up groceries. I placed an order, pickup order. Okay, get there. All the spots for the most part for the pickup place are full. And I was like, oh, it's gonna be a minute, but that's okay. Like we'll we'll park, put our number in. Then I'm looking around, I'm like, wow, no one's in these cars to get their pickup order.

SPEAKER_02 7:59

Yep, because they're dickheads.

SPEAKER_05 8:02

Thank you, Chris. I was so mad. I was gonna call the cops on every single one of them because they're coming out with their buggies and they're putting their stuff in the car and then they're leaving. And I'm like, you know what? This is here for people who need to pick up their groceries. There's a whole parking lot. You go park somewhere else. You don't you don't get a pickup spot. Also, I could understand if most of the Walmart parking lot were pickup spots. That was not the case.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

No, there's like what eight, maybe. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_05 8:26

So so there's eight on one side, so it's eight and then eight on the other, like so one little section, it's like 16 spots. You have a whole parking lot. That was so bad.

SPEAKER_02 8:38

At our Walmart, they actually so ours has like the tire center, and it's around the side where nobody goes unless you're getting tire sets done. That's where they moved our pickup order area to Mars. And there's always spots, always spots.

SPEAKER_05 8:51

And normally I feel like that's how it is. Like it's always in a corner somewhere where like people aren't really going. And as we were driving, I told Dylan I was like, they should move it over like in this random side parking lot they have, and they should do that as the pickup spot because the the spots were like kind of in the middle of a parking lot, but still have decency.

SPEAKER_02 9:12

Kind of like where the handicap spots are.

SPEAKER_05 9:16

Yeah, it was like two handicap spots and then pickup spots.

SPEAKER_00 10:07

Just to play devil's advocate, because I completely agree with both of you, but technically they were picking up their groceries. Technically.

SPEAKER_02 10:25

Taylor, this is what you do from now on. You buy a tank. Well, yeah, they would move or they'd be under your tank. See, it's a yes, no-brainer. So, what you do is get you like a nice pair, like Klein tools. You know, they're not a sponsor of the show, but they're the fucking best. So get you get you a nice, a nice pair of Klein flyers. And then when next time that happens, you just get out and you pull the stems on their tires.

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There you go.

SPEAKER_02 10:57

Not only they they they didn't want to take a few extra steps. Now they gotta get a tow truck.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 11:03

Nothing like saying a product is the best and then using it to make time for straight violence. Well, network is the best fucking tool to get rid of your enemies.

SPEAKER_05 11:18

Oh, and I saw a police officer run red light. What world are we living in right now?

SPEAKER_00 11:23

Well, I mean, you live in a different world, you live in Florida.

SPEAKER_05 11:26

Truly, I was like, you know what, up in Ohio, those spots are reserved, and people people respect that.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

Yeah, you don't live on Earth, you live in Florida. There are only two places. No, there are three places in this country that are different on on a level of different that people will never understand. There are three places. You ready? Florida, Texas, California.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

Yep. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 11:52

If you go to any of those, you are not getting the United States atmosphere. Those are three, those are separate countries here.

SPEAKER_05 12:01

You know what that episode of Family Guy when they find out that Peter's house actually isn't part of the United States and he's his own college. Yes, Victoria. That's how I feel like Florida is a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

Isn't that the episode that he bought the tank?

SPEAKER_05 12:14

Yes, yes, I think so. And then he goes to war. And he had a moat? Didn't he have a moat? Yeah, he had a moat. He did have a moat, he had a moat in two episodes. He also had a moat when he he was getting a lot of money from the from welfare fraud. From welfare fraud, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

Yeah, I took Adam to the aquarium today. Well, uh that is so funny. Me and Lindsay, Lindsay and

Aquarium Trip And Toddler Storytime

SPEAKER_00 12:35

I. We took Adam to the aquarium today. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:38

That is, are there pictures?

SPEAKER_00 12:41

I'm sure Lindsay took pictures.

SPEAKER_03 12:45

Did he have so much fun?

SPEAKER_00 12:46

Yeah, we we hung out, we saw sharks and uh fish and and a crocodile, and then we hung out at the uh the little area where you can pet the the rays, and he stuck his.

SPEAKER_05 12:57

I think I also went to an aquarium today. We call it we call it the river here, but same difference.

SPEAKER_02 13:05

You can shoot a manatee, it's the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

Yeah, it's just the only difference is is when she goes to pet the rays, it's a bunch of guys named Ray.

SPEAKER_05 13:13

Yeah, and they like head scratches.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

She just it's the same process, you have to leave your hand in the water and keep it still. They'll come to you, they'll come to you.

SPEAKER_05 13:23

Yeah, they'll they'll come to you.

SPEAKER_00 13:27

That's funny. That's really funny, anyways.

SPEAKER_05 13:31

That's so much fun, though.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

Yeah, yeah. Anywho, it was it was a good time. We had a good time. Other than that, I think that's pretty much my weekend. I didn't do much.

SPEAKER_05 13:41

Is your baby still obsessed with the big bad wolf?

SPEAKER_00 13:44

Yes, yes, he is.

SPEAKER_05 13:46

Oh, Chris, it's the cutest thing. He walks around and he puts on his big boy voice and he goes, Ow, huff and ow, puff, and ow, whoa, you're a house deck.

SPEAKER_00 13:55

That's cute.

SPEAKER_05 13:56

Really cute.

SPEAKER_00 13:57

And then he goes, Yeah, he goes, he also is just obsessed with like hearing stories. So, like for him, he he looked at me and he goes, Where was Lindsay? Lindsay was at some some function for sorority thing that she was doing, and I'm standing there with him and I'm pushing him around the island in his little truck, and he looks at me and he goes, Dad, tell me the story of the monster truck. And I was like, What story of the monster truck? That's when you make it up. He really he really wanted to hear it, so I just made one up and I turned it into this like really fun moral story about getting a bath, and this shit worked, dude. I I made up a complete bullshit story about monster trucks, as Cornells do about a baby monster truck who loved getting dirty, and a mommy monster truck that insisted he needed to get a bath, and then by the end of the story, the baby monster truck realizes that he loves being clean more than he loves being dirty. And then that night he got a bath with no problem.

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He didn't want to waste a baby.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

I looked at him and I said, Are you gonna be a big brave boy like the monster truck in the story who gets a bath? And then he was like, Dad, tell me the story of the monster truck that gets a bath. And then I told it to him, and then he went upstairs and got a bath. And I thought, holy shit, I think he's the greatest parent in the world. And then today he took a monster truck out of my hands, told me no, and threw it across the room and screeched like a pterodactyl in my face. Yes, so things are going there.

SPEAKER_05 15:34

Is that and you learned how to negotiate with a toddler recently?

SPEAKER_00 15:41

So, anyways, uh, we are the Hook and Bridge Podcast, guys. We are a music show, and today we

AI Music Crime Story Shock

SPEAKER_00 15:48

have some really in-depth music conversations to go over. However, before we jump into that, as we know, there is still a ton of AI music stuff going on. Yeah, I think so. Okay, wait, what do you know?

SPEAKER_05 16:10

I can't tell you what I know.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Oh, can you send it send it in the chat so I can find out if we can I can't, I can't.

SPEAKER_05 16:20

I shouldn't have said anything. Continue.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

No, now you have to.

SPEAKER_02 16:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:24

No, I'm just kidding. I don't know anything.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

She better tell us where I'm at her house swatted again.

SPEAKER_05 16:34

No, I I meant I meant the backlash.

SPEAKER_00 16:37

Oh no. I have I have this fun, well, fun, horrible story that I want to go over that happened recently. There was an American idol contestant that brutally murdered his wife over an affair that he was having.

SPEAKER_05 16:58

Yeah, because he couldn't just labor.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

But the the way this relates to the AI conversation is that no, worse, worse, he was having AI music made for his mistress. This this man is an American idol contestant that was on TV for singing abilities, he's a musician. And he had he had Chat GPT write a song for his mistress, and then use the same probably the same program that Chris uses to make everyone uses a song for his mistress, and he didn't even sing it.

SPEAKER_05 17:40

You know what? It could be worse. He could have written something from his heart.

SPEAKER_02 17:44

It would have been shitty.

SPEAKER_05 17:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:48

That is that I didn't think about it in that way, though, Taylor. Does that make it better?

SPEAKER_05 17:53

I think so.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

Because like it shows that he just didn't care about her at all.

SPEAKER_05 17:58

Yeah, but like he still killed his wife.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

He's a terrible person.

SPEAKER_05 18:03

He's terrible. I know the felon.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

So I know we have to get into the bracket, but hear me out. So the you know, obviously it's it's a much easier argument

Autotune Ghostwriters And AI Labels

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when it comes to listening to music that is completely AI. You know what I mean? Kind of doing it like how I do it when I send everybody dumbass funny songs. You know, I always have ChatGPT do the lyrics, I run it through the program to add the music and the you know, to actually sing it. But what if you so who's how the hell are we as fans supposed to know if artists are doing that? Now, but actually performing it, learning to sing the song, you know. I could generate 10 songs in 15 minutes and go, well, I like this version better, and then trying to download that on a chat GPT and it give me everything I need from notes to you know.

SPEAKER_00 19:57

This is a good conversation, and I love that you are an outside perspective on this because it helps kind of make a little bit of the argument that I've been trying to make. Let me start the conversation off this way. How do you feel about artists using auto-tune?

SPEAKER_02 20:16

Which we talked, yeah, we which we talked about, right?

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Right, but I'm talking not T-Pain level, not where it's like obvious.

SPEAKER_05 20:24

Oh, see, I like the obvious slight difference.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 20:28

We all like the obvious, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

Right? So my question is how do you feel how would you feel if you found out that an album that you idolized and loved more than anything, the artist used pitch correction so that it came out to the quality that that artist wanted it to be? Torn pitch pitch correction being the program that they use to correct their vocals in the recording process. Yes, Taylor.

SPEAKER_05 21:03

So I would I feel the same way as like when I find out my favorite artists and the songs I love were written by like ghost other bolts. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, that sucks, but also still a bop. I'm like, well, let's say I go to see them in concert and they suck, right? So they're using might be like, oh, that was awful. Why I'm sad I wasted my money, but I'm still gonna listen to it on Spotify because it's pretty fire on Spotify, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

So where so where is the AI argument then? Because both of those things are AI before AI, right? You're falsifying your vocals, it's not using you know, you're using an artificial intelligence program to identify your vocals and correct them because you're singing out of key, right? It's artificial intelligence, no one can argue that. Okay, it's a computer program that is able to identify where you're off and fix it. Then you have the ghostwriters, which for a very long part of history, artists would have ghostwriters, and those ghostwriters didn't get credit on those songs. And these people would be like, This is my song, yes, or they would they would market it as their song, and then when asked about it, they would go, Oh, well, I actually don't know because I didn't write the song.

SPEAKER_05 22:33

Like I legally, I think that they should have to say.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

Well, I I think I think they might have to now, but I'm not positive on that. But what what I'm saying is, how is that any different than what they're currently arguing against?

SPEAKER_02 22:47

No, no, no. I think the ghostwriter thing is totally different than using chat GPT or other AI, you know, why because it can do it better? No, because you're a ghostwriter is a human being, you know.

SPEAKER_00 22:59

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're also not giving that artist credit.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

No, I think credit should be given, yes, but yeah, you can't expect an artist to be good at everything, you know what I mean? Like maybe they got a hell of a voice, but not much going on upstairs. You know what I mean? They can't they can't string a line together.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

The ghostwriter thing is more of just the cherry on the top for me, anyways. My whole thing is the the pitch correction because that's 99% of the industry.

SPEAKER_02 23:29

No, that's skill, you know what I mean? Like you don't have it, so now you're you know, you're using a tool, right?

SPEAKER_00 23:34

Right, but it's also like some people have incredible voices, and they went to the studio and they just didn't have It that day, or they want it to be a perfect product, you know what I mean, in the production side, so they adjust it. But like that is 90. This is a fact. This is a fact. Anyone that's listening to this right now, just so you know, this is a 100% fact. I have talked to enough people to know that this is exactly what happens.

SPEAKER_05 24:03

Did you Google AI it though? No, it's not a fact once you Google AI it.

SPEAKER_02 24:08

I'm going to right now.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

Everyone that I have ever spoke to uses pitch correction. Everyone with 100% certainty that I have ever spoke to that is a musician that has walked into a studio and has ever sang a note uses pitch correction, myself included.

SPEAKER_05 24:29

Do you guys know the thousand pound sisters?

SPEAKER_00 24:33

Isn't that those girls that are like super super big?

SPEAKER_05 24:37

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

All right.

SPEAKER_05 24:40

Amy and Amy and something else. So Amy came out with a song and it goes, no palm trees, just a tower in pants. No ocean waves, just a fish in line. Do you know what I'm talking about? Have you guys seen this anywhere?

SPEAKER_02 24:56

First of all. I kind of like it. Of course, we do. Just from that right there, God.

SPEAKER_05 25:03

Hang on. Wait, hang on. I'm gonna find it. I think that I'm able to play it because AI did write it. So that's what I'm getting with those.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

Oh, wait, AI wrote it.

SPEAKER_03 25:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:18

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_02 25:19

Okay, then there you go. The thing is, is the thing is, is us as consumers will never know that.

SPEAKER_05 25:27

Are you ready? Are you ready?

SPEAKER_02 25:28

I don't think you can play it. She still might own it.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Um you think so? Yeah, go for it. I don't care. Go for it.

SPEAKER_05 25:37

Just a channel like just a tattoo.

SPEAKER_01 25:46

Doesn't it sound like um the dude with the tattoos all over his place?

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Yoshi. Jelly roll? It sounds like jelly roll, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:58

No, it sounds like Bobby Hill. Let's see what it sounds like.

SPEAKER_03 26:04

I don't know you. Hello you.

SPEAKER_05 26:07

No, my my new local stim is palm tree. It's just a tower of odds. But yeah, no, I'm pretty sure AI did write that. But she's really proud of it, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

Anyways, it I I don't know, man. I still don't see the difference whether it's a person or you're you're having a chat GPT or whatever write it for you. Regardless, you didn't write it at the end of the day. Like and you should have to say that and you should well, and you just shouldn't be selling a product that's not your product. Like I can't I can't say that I invented drain punch, but I think drain punch is a great product, and you know what I mean. Yeah, oh man.

SPEAKER_02 26:49

I thought that was a congresswoman.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

But as far as the the like I said, the real artificial intelligence that has been used in music for generations now, no one seems to have a problem with that.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

I don't think there's intelligence there, I think it's just artificial.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

Yes, it no it is intelligence, it is a degree of intelligence, it can identify and fix your vocals. I guess that is intelligence, but has that been being used for generations? Yes, they don't, yeah, don't how long has pitch correction been used in the music industry?

SPEAKER_05 27:38

I'm really proud of you for using your phonics with that. That was a really good sounding out.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

He's gotta be hooked on something.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Pitch correction has been used in the music industry for nearly 80 years.

SPEAKER_05 27:53

How long has AI been around? I I I feel like I I feel like that's wrong. It is well now that's also saying like the programs that they have on to like detect would be AI.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

Auto tune.

SPEAKER_05 28:11

Because pitch correcting with AI, I think, is something completely different, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:18

Sorry, sorry, say it one more time. One more time.

SPEAKER_05 28:20

I feel like the pitch correcting that like you're talking about is like someone in a studio making a note, being like, no, here we need to fix this with my fancy board.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

Yeah, but like you're s a human is identifying where it's flat back in the day, right? Yeah, so I so yeah, I get what you're saying. Like yes, like back in the day, it was a human identifying the issue and then using a computer to correct it.

SPEAKER_05 28:49

Also known as hip human-identified pitch.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

And then where it becomes an issue now is that humans no longer have to identify the elements. They have a program that they can put the song through, and they click a button that says auto pitch, and it identifies all the notes that are wrong and then corrects them. Yes, and it generates your voice. That's the other part of this, too, that makes it AI is it generates your voice, it generates your vocals so that it can identify and correct, right? Yes, like it has to make your voice make a new sound. Yes, yes, so yeah, that that's my take is like anyone that's complaining about AI use, then they need to stop using AI in their production as well. And that's the first start, that's that's the first step. And I would love to see these artists give up their pitch correction and see what happens to the industry.

SPEAKER_05 29:52

Also, I'm gonna say something. I think it's okay, no matter what, what unless you're a basketball player, we'll touch on that in a minute. Unless you're a basketball player, I think it's okay in your profession to mess up. If you're a little pitchy, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 30:07

It used to be embraced in the 90s and the 80s and the 70s, it used to be embraced. We actually idolized artists who had bad vocals. If you think about it, there were look at Nirvana. Kirk O'Bain was not a good singer.

SPEAKER_05 30:23

Look at Taylor Swift. Calm down.

SPEAKER_00 30:25

Oh, chill, bro.

SPEAKER_05 30:28

We we we can we can dog on her, but she does have a good voice. No, I'm just no no no.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just trying to he's just trying to pull our chain.

SPEAKER_05 30:37

If you are a professional basketball player and you are missing free throws, you are getting a gajillion dollars a year. Don't miss the free throws when you so are musicians, though. Don't do that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:48

So are musicians, but I'll let them slide.

SPEAKER_05 30:49

I just I'm on a basketball right now. Nah, ain't nobody coming near them. Ain't nobody coming near them. They just have to they just have to make it in the net.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

No one gets a free slide. If you are gonna put out a product, then make the product stop using programs to make it for you.

SPEAKER_03 31:06

Yes, that goes for guitar.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

It's not just pitch correction, there are AI plugins in the music industry all across the board. There are things that make beats. There, there are programs that make beats that utilize intelligence. Beats by I'm just saying that like if we really want to start having this argument as as a nation uh and as artists, if you really want to dive in and have this argument, I already said I'm for it, man. I took away the AI. Everybody complained, I took it away. But if you want to really have this argument, then you guys start doing it too, you know? Like, start off, and like I said, pitch correction should be the first one. I would love to see what happens to this industry when people can no longer correct their vocals because it's not real art. You're muted, buddy.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

Sorry, the dog was making some noise. I think it's great. I think that'll take us back to a time where the market's not flooded with with music. So there's songs I'm just coming across now that have been out for fucking 11 years, and I'm like, how have I never heard this?

SPEAKER_00 32:15

Never heard, never heard, never heard, but also I'm I'm the I'm the same guy that if you want to go the complete opposite direction, I'm still in. I I've told you, Chris, personally, that like to me as a consumer, what I deem as art is up to me. So if I like AI music, then I should be allowed to like it. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 32:39

I think it just has to be like you have to say that it's AR.

SPEAKER_00 32:42

Exactly, and that's what I told Chris. That's that's what our art are not our argument, but our discussion has been is that I think it should be its own genre. You should have to label AI music as an AI genre, it's the AI genre of music.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

And well, and then also branches out from music, you know what I mean? Like that's that should be well, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:03

But I'm yeah, but I'm just talking about music though. Like, as far as the songs go that everyone's up in an uproar about, in my opinion, put them in their own genre, and if the artists lose to AI, like I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_05 33:18

Do see, I don't I don't like that.

SPEAKER_00 33:21

Yeah, but but but what I'm saying though, Taylor, what I'm saying is it's up to us as people what we decide to like, right?

SPEAKER_03 33:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 33:30

So if you're an artist, if you're a musician and you want to have your audience and you want to target your audience, and they like this AI song, right? Yeah, then you make a song like that.

SPEAKER_05 33:44

But I think that is going to kill music. But I but I feel the same way.

SPEAKER_00 33:50

As creative as they think they are.

SPEAKER_05 33:53

No, it's taking away the heart and soul out of music. You're you're putting something into a computer and then you're having it generate things. Right. I feel the same way about AI art. I well, we all know I am against AI.

SPEAKER_00 34:05

But what I'm saying though, but what I'm saying though is this doesn't take any of that away. These artists can still make their art. It's not it's not taking anything away from them.

SPEAKER_05 34:18

Here, hang on.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

Let me people like what the people like. And if you want to if you want them to like your stuff, then start making stuff that they like.

SPEAKER_05 34:26

But I I do think that it should be a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 34:28

No one is stopping you from making your art.

SPEAKER_05 34:30

It should be it should be in its own category, and it can only be AI songs against AI songs.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

No.

SPEAKER_05 34:38

That that let me that's where I draw this way. No, let me put it this way.

SPEAKER_02 34:43

That only matters when it comes to lists, you know what I mean? Like awards. Yes, does do those awards actually bring huge amounts of money? No, it's about the consumers, you know what I mean? It's about who's buying the songs, how many, how many listens they're getting to, so companies are willing to pay for it.

SPEAKER_00 34:58

When we boil this argument down to its actual argument and stop with the fluff, it is about money. Yeah, people are worried about losing money to a robot. That's all this is, and to what to that argument, what I say is if you're worried about losing your pennies to a robot, then make better stuff, get more creative, get in the studio, put in the time, and stop playing to our ears based off of the algorithm. When's the last time somebody made something that was truly monumental and outstanding? How many artists go into the studio and say, I know what works for my audience. Here's 13 more songs that are just like the other 13 I just made.

SPEAKER_05 35:42

Yes, I I know who did that.

SPEAKER_00 35:45

Ryan Woods. But do you get do you get what I'm saying, though? If that is your concern, get in the studio and actually put in the work.

SPEAKER_05 35:55

Because you you are asking it, you are asking people to go up against artificial intelligence. And like that's not fair. That's like let me let me put it to you this way: we have men and women's sports for a reason, they are in their own category, they do not go against each other. Um if you have AI music and then you have actual artists who are writing their song, it is not fair to put them against each other. That's the way that I view it. Those should be two separate things.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

No, when you say putting them against each other, what do you mean? Like in uh in the award shows?

SPEAKER_05 36:29

Yes, in the awards, it should be like best AI song, right? Like, yeah, however, it cannot be best AI and country music. So, like if you're in the country music part of it, no, no, no, Taylor.

SPEAKER_00 36:41

AI song shouldn't be Taylor, Taylor, Taylor. Uh you you missed what I said originally. AI should be its own genre. Yes, an AI song cannot also be a country song, it's just another go up against other songs. But what I'm also saying is at that same award show, there is a generic tab called Song of the Year. AI songs have to be able to.

SPEAKER_05 37:11

No, that's I thought I thought you meant like it was going to be in all genres, like even if it was like uh its own thing, it's its own genre.

SPEAKER_00 37:20

Yeah, but as far as, like I said, as far as artists being upset about it, in my opinion, if you're upset about it, then do better, be more creative, and get out there and put in the work. I also said I'm fine with the opposite. Look, I I did exactly what everyone was saying that I needed to do, I got rid of AI. I did. You know what I'm saying? I I I did what they wanted me to do, so now I get to have my my soapbox in my stance. Either if you want to get rid of AI, then all artists starting tomorrow need to stop using AI to create music, including pitch correction and certain artificial plugins that replicate there. Here's here's my issue, Taylor. Is there is a program, a computer program, that can if you let's say that you're a guitar player, right? But you can't afford a Mesa Boogie amp, which is like the top-of-the-line amp that everybody uses, right? You can't afford that. You can buy a computer program and plug your guitar into your computer that makes a Mesa Boogie amp. It generates it on your computer and has the exact same sound and all of the effects and everything, and you can record an album in your computer as if you have equipment that you can't afford. That is artificial.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

So if you are upset about this, that is the same as us creating the thumbnails using something because we can't afford to hire an artist.

SPEAKER_00 38:55

If you got a problem with it, then guess what, buddy? You can't use this program anymore. That's all I'm saying. I or we all embrace it and just say, okay, this is now part of life, and it needs to be its own genre, and we all need to work harder to keep our audiences because we're no longer going up against each other, we're also going up against a robot. Simple as that. There are people that don't like AI music. I don't like AI music, so I wouldn't listen to it. So I'm still a fan of real music. So there is a group out there.

SPEAKER_05 39:33

It's it's just a slippery slope.

SPEAKER_00 39:36

It doesn't have to be if it's properly labeled.

SPEAKER_05 39:39

You're preaching to the choir, big dog.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

I'm just I'm just saying that it doesn't have to be if it's properly labeled. If you've got a problem with AI and you listen to something and you're like, oh shit, that was good, and you look at it and it says that it's AI, you get to be upset. You got fooled, and you go back to listening to Guns N' Roses or whatever the hell you listen to. Like it is what it is, man. But as long as it's properly labeled, then it the issue is on you at that point. If you like AI music and you get fooled by it, you don't get to also go, This is terrible. I got fooled by AI music.

SPEAKER_05 40:15

No, you just have to understand that you're gonna sometimes like things that are artificial, and you know, the one thing that this country is known for, it's labeling things properly for the consumers to feel safe to do things so that so that labels can be properly read.

SPEAKER_00 40:32

Again, sorry to bring up the t-pain thing, but like T-Pain is very open about his use of pitch correction, it's very over the top on purpose.

SPEAKER_05 40:42

And it's all yes, but it's noticeable. You listen to a T-Pain song, you're like, No, that's why you love it, you know.

SPEAKER_00 40:49

I I know, but he's using an artificial tool to achieve that, correct? Yes, he's using a soundboard with built-in programs to adjust and change and modify his voice.

SPEAKER_05 41:06

Yes, but I I still think, like, yes, it's an artificial thing, but you can say the same thing about the pedals you have for your guitar that you use.

SPEAKER_00 41:15

I trust me, dude. I agree, yes.

SPEAKER_05 41:18

But I think you're confusing that with AI, like those are two separate things.

SPEAKER_00 41:22

No, but the the pitch correction thing in particular, I say is AI because it has an intelligence about it. It can I it identifies your voice and changes your voice. That requires intelligence.

SPEAKER_05 41:36

So is T-Pain using that or is he using auto-tune where he's he's up there going auto thing and saying no, I love that.

SPEAKER_00 41:45

Auto-tune is also there again. We're just we're getting into the weeds on it, but my point is that if if that's how we're gonna be, then all these artists have to stop using these tools. And I agree with you. You could make the argument that my pedals make an artificial sound in my guitar that I replicate that other artists use. Does that make me a bad person?

SPEAKER_02 42:11

I mean, well, you are a piece of shit, period, but yes.

SPEAKER_05 42:14

That just adds to it.

SPEAKER_00 42:18

Sorry to sorry to have another in-depth AI conversation here.

SPEAKER_05 42:22

Guys, you hurt Harley's feelings. Can you all just go apologize to all? Like, I came on for a bracket.

SPEAKER_00 42:29

I just I hate hypocrisy, dude. It's like my one

Corporate Chaos Starbucks Powder And Arby's

SPEAKER_00 42:32

thing. It's it's literally my one thing is hypocrisy. And like I said, I bent my knee. I did exactly what my audience asked me to do. So it's the same.

SPEAKER_02 42:45

I just wonder if people are emailing McDonald's and Walmart and Star for you know what, you know, and they they are boycotting them because their commercial happens to have, you know, they utilize it.

SPEAKER_00 42:58

They're not boycotting them, but they're sending emails. But the difference is is these giant corporations don't read their emails.

SPEAKER_05 43:07

Fun fact you know that Starbucks has a new powder that is causing people to go into respiratory failure, the baristas, when they're making drinks with it. And when this was when this was brought up, they're like, Well, wear face covering, try not to breathe when you're mixing the drink.

SPEAKER_02 43:21

That's crazy, isn't that crazy? Or just fall out on the job site and get paid.

SPEAKER_05 43:27

Like it's insane, and then all the baristas were coming forward about it and like like showing people, and they're like, crazy that you guys are also then putting this in your body, like we can't inhale it as a powder, but you're drinking it.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

I hear you, I do hear you. But when I worked at McDonald's, we had this grill cleaner that we had to use every night, and it was the same thing, it was the same thing. When when I when I was doing it and started like having breathing problems, I was told, Well, you need to ventilate the area, so open up the back door and open up the front door while you're cleaning.

SPEAKER_05 44:00

Crazy, dude. Crazy. And then we're eating off that grill. I will say, my argument to that though is when you then heat the grill up, it kind of like dissipates. Do you know what I mean? Like the grill isn't hot enough.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

No, you do it while the grill is on, you clean it while it's on, so it's immediately burning off so that they can use it the next morning. Yeah, so there were two chemicals. I I would put one chemical on that was like the cleaner or whatever, and then the second chemical was the same kind of stuff that I would use on my blackstone to like reseal it. Yeah, and it came on this brush thing, and you had to brush it on and brush it off. Yeah, the the power smoke that it would throw into your face and the smell, dude. It was wild.

SPEAKER_05 44:42

Yeah, they they were blending up Frappuccinos with this powder, and they're like, Cough, cough, can't really breathe. And then people were drinking these Frappuccinos. Here's one for you.

SPEAKER_00 44:51

Did you know that the Arby's roast beef comes as liquid?

SPEAKER_05 44:55

So I don't need Arby's, so I don't need liquid, it comes in a bag.

SPEAKER_00 44:59

It comes in a bag, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look it up right now. Look it up right now.

SPEAKER_05 45:05

Make sure you look it up on Google AI.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

It's liquid, and then they put it in something that like steams it and turns it into food.

SPEAKER_05 45:14

I'm nauseous. Didn't I tell you I had a tummy ache when I came on here?

SPEAKER_00 45:17

You did, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:18

Gonna throw up on camera. You know, I haven't been back to Starbucks since I quit.

SPEAKER_00 45:22

Really?

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

Dude, I I could go. I wanted to go to Tim Hortons and I forgot. Fuck.

SPEAKER_05 45:30

I can go for Tim Hortons. They won't have a water burger.

SPEAKER_00 45:35

I want coffee. You're making me want coffee. I'm gonna text coffee this morning. I'm gonna text and ask.

SPEAKER_05 45:45

That is so funny, Chris.

SPEAKER_00 45:49

Can I have a coffee?

SPEAKER_05 45:52

I had an iced coffee today. You'll you'd have to pry that for my cold dead hands. I I have one happiness in this world, and it is an iced coffee.

SPEAKER_00 46:03

I hear that, dude. I hear that.

SPEAKER_02 46:05

Mine is a black tar heroin.

SPEAKER_05 46:08

That's a cool second for me personally.

SPEAKER_00 46:12

Are you guys ready to get into this bracket?

SPEAKER_02 46:14

Yes. Uh, by the way, the Arby's thing is is a rumor.

SPEAKER_00 46:20

It's a rumor. So everyone, everyone listening before we get to the video. I'll send you the video. There's an Arby's chef on YouTube who is corroborating that story. It was like I saw it yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:35

And I watched the video.

SPEAKER_02 46:36

Arby's ingredients list identifies it as roast beef. Well, as roast the roast beef is beef, water, salt, and sodium phosphates. That's it. No, no hypomala jiggle.

SPEAKER_00 46:49

Yeah, yeah. I don't think that that's the issue. I think it still comes in a liquid bag, is my thing.

SPEAKER_02 46:56

No, no, no. There's there's liquid in it to keep it moist. And according to this, sometimes it it gets gelatinous. But what's the difference of that and lunch meat? You know what I mean? You ever get like lunch meat? Okay. Have you ever for anyone poor listening? You know, do you ever buy like the the Walmart brand, the food line brand lunch meat? And in the corner of the package is like little jelly.

SPEAKER_05 47:16

That's I have Walmart lunch meat in the fridge.

SPEAKER_02 47:19

Then it's got jelly in the bag.

SPEAKER_05 47:21

I know, and it freaks me out, dude. It freaks me out. It is, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:23

It's like icky.

SPEAKER_05 47:24

I'm still gonna eat it.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:27

Alright, let's get into this bracket because I have dinner waiting for me.

SPEAKER_02 47:30

Me too. Tomato soup and grilled cheese.

SPEAKER_05 47:33

Delish! Way better than mine. We're having roasted chicken and potatoes.

SPEAKER_00 47:37

You might want to go grab your dinner, Taylor, because this is gonna take a

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minute.

SPEAKER_05 47:42

You have me until seven o'clock.

SPEAKER_00 47:45

That's in that's in eight minutes.

SPEAKER_05 47:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:49

There's no way. There's no way. Yeah, well, to each their own, I guess. Here is the bracket. We have Queen, Michael Jackson, Harry Styles, Billy Eilish, Eminem, Kanye. Thank you. Pink Floyd, Garth Brooks, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Link 182, Lincoln Park, and Caesar. First up, Queen versus Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

Oh, fuck you. Oh, this is so hard.

SPEAKER_05 48:30

I low-key feel indifferent about either. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

It's super easy for me. I knew this one would make Rish blow a glassket. Blow a gasket.

SPEAKER_05 48:43

Hang on, let me.

SPEAKER_00 48:44

I blew a glass maker once.

SPEAKER_05 48:49

Was his name right?

SPEAKER_00 48:55

Queen. Queen.

SPEAKER_05 48:57

Definitely Queen.

SPEAKER_00 48:58

Yeah, it's easier than you think because Michael Jackson sucks.

SPEAKER_03 49:06

Slow down now.

SPEAKER_00 49:08

The silence was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 49:11

Hey Harley. Hey, can you make the bracket full screen?

SPEAKER_00 49:13

Oh yeah, my bad. There you go.

SPEAKER_02 49:18

There we go. Beautiful. No, I just think Queen has got so many bangers. Yeah. Like Queen is I can play Queen anytime. Michael Jackson, I've got to be in the mood.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

When's the last time you listened to a Michael Jackson song? Friday. Why?

SPEAKER_05 49:37

I literally listened to it all week.

SPEAKER_00 49:40

Michael Jackson?

SPEAKER_05 49:41

Yeah. The man. Yeah. I've learned so many Michael Jackson songs.

SPEAKER_02 49:49

But I also listened to Queen on Friday, so I didn't even listen to Queen in a minute.

SPEAKER_00 49:55

Shamon. You know what I mean? Literally, Thriller and Man in the Mirror are the only good Michael Jackson. Smooth Criminal? Yeah, you know who did that song better?

SPEAKER_02 50:08

When you say Alien Ant Farm, fuck you. I mean, their version is good. I own them both, but it's the better version of that song.

SPEAKER_05 50:16

Smooth Criminal is a great song, and it might make me want to go Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_02 50:22

Over Queen, you're crazy. I'm just I'm looking at numbers here, like volume, you know.

SPEAKER_05 50:28

I mean, Michael Jackson also died before them, so. Are we sure about that?

SPEAKER_00 50:35

Nope.

SPEAKER_04 50:36

No?

SPEAKER_00 50:37

I was gonna say no, Freddie Mercury.

SPEAKER_05 50:39

No, I guess I guess not. I did watch the movie.

SPEAKER_00 50:42

Freddie Mercury had a very famous death.

SPEAKER_05 50:45

I'm still going Queen. So did Michael Jackson.

SPEAKER_00 50:48

Queen, yeah. Harry Styles versus Billy Eilish.

SPEAKER_05 50:53

Harry Styles.

SPEAKER_02 50:55

I'm gonna go with Billy Eyelash because I've never heard a Harry Styles song.

SPEAKER_00 51:00

I'm going Harry Styles also.

SPEAKER_05 51:02

You should look into it. I think you'd love Harry Styles.

SPEAKER_00 51:05

I also think you would love Harry Styles.

SPEAKER_05 51:07

I actually I think it would really be up your alley.

SPEAKER_00 51:09

Yeah. Wait, does he do songs like Kanye? No, he does songs like Ryan Woods.

SPEAKER_05 51:16

I was literally just about to say Ryan Woods. You would love Harry Styles.

SPEAKER_00 51:19

You would love Harry Styles.

SPEAKER_05 51:21

You would love that.

SPEAKER_00 51:23

Watermelon sugar. Hi.

SPEAKER_05 51:25

Hi.

SPEAKER_00 51:25

Watermelon sugar. Hi.

SPEAKER_05 51:27

Hi.

SPEAKER_02 51:28

Not that one though. That sounds like ingredients.

SPEAKER_00 51:30

What was the other big one that he had? As it was.

SPEAKER_04 51:34

Yeah, you would love that album. You know, you know, you know.

SPEAKER_00 51:40

Anyways, Harry Styles move it on for sure.

SPEAKER_02 51:43

I do know that Billy Eilish looks better in a skirt.

SPEAKER_05 51:47

Yes. Yes, I'll give you.

SPEAKER_00 51:49

Then Harry Styles, again, dude, your opinions are all over the place right now. That's crazy. Harry Styles looks great in a dress.

SPEAKER_02 51:59

No, I thought he kind of looked like uh Jim Carrey. You know? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 52:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 52:06

I think it's a good one. In an instant replay.

SPEAKER_02 52:15

All right. Eminem versus Tiani. Okay, Taylor, you have to vote with me on this one.

SPEAKER_05 52:21

I have to go Kanye.

SPEAKER_02 52:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 52:25

I have to go Kanye.

SPEAKER_02 52:26

Are you being for real?

SPEAKER_05 52:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:29

Oh shit. Oh, I thought you were just joking. Yeah, no, Kanye.

SPEAKER_05 52:32

Yeah, Kanye.

SPEAKER_00 52:34

I am in a stage of life where I also have to go Kanye. No fear.

SPEAKER_05 52:42

Can I can I tell you my reasoning though?

SPEAKER_00 52:44

His politics?

SPEAKER_05 52:45

No, I I want you, I want you to look at this list. And we already voted off Michael Jackson. I really want you guys to look at this list.

SPEAKER_00 52:55

Ooh, Taylor plays the race car.

SPEAKER_05 52:59

That's why I had to really weigh my options because I was like, we're already in hot water about this whole AI thing.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

Anyways.

SPEAKER_00 53:16

Honestly, though, I I just I lean it back to the the song.

SPEAKER_05 53:20

Lean with a rock with it.

SPEAKER_00 53:22

No, no, no. Stronger, dude. That that that don't kill me can only make me stronger.

SPEAKER_05 53:28

Stronger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hear graduation is a great album.

SPEAKER_00 53:33

Eminem could never pull out a line that says you could be my black Kate Moss tonight. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 53:40

Gold Digger? Perfection.

SPEAKER_00 53:42

Dude, dude, I agree with you. I do.

SPEAKER_05 53:44

Then he'd leave you for a white girl.

SPEAKER_00 53:47

18 years. 18 years.

SPEAKER_05 53:49

18 years. On his 18th birthday, he found out that was a big one.

SPEAKER_00 53:55

Oh man, I love Kanye. Kanye's so good, dude. Calm down now. He is, though. Clip that. He is. Hey, camera one, in on me. Kanye is an incredibly perfect artist.

SPEAKER_05 54:11

Guys, before I get my Kanye tattoo, has he done anything problematic?

SPEAKER_02 54:15

Let me know now. I'll send you, I'll send you at least one song right now.

SPEAKER_00 54:23

All right, onto the other side. Pink Floyd versus Garth Brooks. Pink Floyd. Shut up.

SPEAKER_05 54:30

Yeah, all day long.

SPEAKER_00 54:31

I've been on Pink Floyd King. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_05 54:33

You know what's so funny? Is is we brought up Garth Brooks, and then I downloaded

Pink Floyd Versus Garth Brooks Debate

SPEAKER_05 54:39

Friends in Low Places, and every time I go to listen to it, I skip it.

SPEAKER_00 54:42

So that's crazy. Listen, so on Pink Floyd. Where did you download it? Spotify? It's not on Spotify. It's not on any streaming service. You downloaded somebody else's version.

SPEAKER_02 54:59

Are you sure Garth Brooks isn't on iTunes?

SPEAKER_00 55:02

Famously one of the only artists that is not on any streaming. I know that when his was it 30th year or 50th year, whatever.

SPEAKER_05 55:10

You're right.

SPEAKER_00 55:11

Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 55:12

Let me re let me rephrase. It was a Garth Brooks tribute.

SPEAKER_00 55:16

Thank you. Garth Brooks is famously like the only guy that's still like, no, fuck you. I'm not doing it. Well, I don't know why he thinks he's better than everyone else, but I'm definitely going to his catalog is not on any streaming at all. Zero zero. I'm going Pink Floyd.

SPEAKER_05 55:32

Yeah, I'm going Pink Floyd then.

SPEAKER_00 55:35

What? Yeah, that sealed the deal for me. No, no, no, no, no, guys. You can't do this to me.

SPEAKER_02 55:40

Yes, I can't.

SPEAKER_00 55:41

You can't do this to me.

SPEAKER_02 55:42

Did you already guess that Garth Brooks was gonna win in the next slide or something?

SPEAKER_00 55:47

No. Imagine Brooks is gonna win. Garth Brooks is definitely gonna win.

SPEAKER_05 55:52

Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd all the way.

SPEAKER_00 55:55

Friends in low places, guys.

SPEAKER_05 55:57

Can't listen to it by him.

SPEAKER_00 55:58

So we met Beach.

SPEAKER_05 56:00

So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:02

There you go. Chris, you don't even know Pink Floyd songs. You're right, I don't, but I hate Garth Brooks. Is it because of the murder? It's because of the murders.

SPEAKER_00 56:11

And it's plural. Murders. It wasn't him, it was his alternate ego. Murder, she wrote. What was his alternate ego's name? You used to know it like you would rip it out.

SPEAKER_02 56:28

All the time. He was just having some hormone issues. That's all it was. Me too. Me too.

SPEAKER_00 56:35

Well, I guess, man, I my only argument is friends in low places, but if that's I can't even listen to it by him. So no, you can't book's real. You can listen to it by him in your heart when you and your friends are around a fire.

SPEAKER_05 56:53

You know what? I don't I don't think I've ever listened to Garth Brooks sing it then. That's how I feel about it. I I know by the word of mouth.

SPEAKER_00 57:02

It's on the radio growing up. Yeah, he all of his stuff plays on the radio. Okay, well Pink Floyd moving on. Purchase what from?

SPEAKER_05 57:15

A record shop, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 57:17

Yeah, C D, uh a vinyl.

SPEAKER_02 57:20

And you listen to it in your car, how your modern car?

SPEAKER_00 57:23

Who, me?

SPEAKER_02 57:24

No, you don't have a you don't have a modern car.

SPEAKER_00 57:27

I don't I don't have I don't own Garth Brooks.

SPEAKER_05 57:31

My C D player alum. No, no, no. My CD player that doesn't work.

SPEAKER_02 57:35

C D player that's got the Amish ladies thing in it. Yes. I think there's something else.

SPEAKER_00 57:41

No, if I'm listening to Friends in Low Places, it's because I started a sing-along. There is no track player. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 57:48

I only I only know it by word of mouth.

SPEAKER_02 57:51

So does his music really exist?

SPEAKER_05 57:53

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 57:54

In the store, where the fuck are you? How do you listen to it? Is it real?

SPEAKER_05 57:57

He's not real.

SPEAKER_00 57:58

It is in the store. You can purchase CDs and fine.

SPEAKER_05 58:03

You go to Bohemian Amigos with only Garth Brooks CDs.

SPEAKER_00 58:07

We're the Garth Brooks store.

unknown 58:09

Garth Brooks store.

SPEAKER_00 58:10

I have a theory about Garth Brooks that is so he was rated like the best-selling artist of all time for a very long time. And I think it's because his songs aren't on streaming. So he literally probably has like record sales through the roof. Because the only way to listen to his music is physically buying it. So for him, he's like, dude, I have the best-selling album of all time, my greatest hits album. And it's like, yeah, but like there's no other way to listen to your music.

SPEAKER_05 58:40

So and he and he's pitting me in a corner, and I don't like that.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

Yeah, no, all right. Pink Floyd moves on. Red Hot Chili Peppers versus Blink 182.

SPEAKER_05 58:51

Oh, this one's hard.

SPEAKER_02 58:54

It's not, but it is. I'm going red hot chili peppers.

SPEAKER_05 58:58

In the insist.

unknown 59:03

Ladies first.

SPEAKER_00 59:05

Although small things. Small things. Now here's the thing. Small things. Small things.

SPEAKER_01 59:11

Small things.

SPEAKER_03 59:13

Small things.

SPEAKER_00 59:17

Fell in love with the girl at the rock show.

SPEAKER_05 59:20

Yes. I would be sad to see red hot jelly peppers.

SPEAKER_00 59:23

What's my age again? What's my age again?

SPEAKER_05 59:26

But I I love Blink 182. Like a lot. Like I listen to them regularly.

SPEAKER_00 59:35

I'm going red hot jelly peppers.

SPEAKER_05 59:37

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 59:39

So listen, I own a shit ton of Blink 182 songs that I've bought over the years. I find myself every time they come up while I have it on shuffle, I skip it like 100% of the time. Unless my wife is with me because she'll sometimes sing along.

SPEAKER_05 59:54

Okay. I I am happy with whatever decision is made. Like I'm not mad at either decision.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:02

I will say that both Red Hot Chili Peppers and Blink 182, I don't skip either one of those. Those are two of my favorite bands of all time. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:10

Dude, I'd listen to it so hard for years.

unknown 1:00:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm burnt out.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:16

Chris does have years on us.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:18

Here's the difference between Blink 182 and Red Hot Chili Peppers is Blink 182 is a great band, and I love their music. They have not revolutionized music the way that the Red Hot Jili Peppers did. Because Flea from the Red Hot Jelly Peppers completely revolutionized bass playing amongst an entire generation of youth. The 2000s rock and like hard rock heavy metal scene would not exist the way that it does without Flea, because Flea transformed how we viewed bass in a composition. Because the Chili Peppers, almost all of their like sick ass lines are bass lines. That's a bass line. The guitar is like super super simple stuff. It's usually like chords, but the bass is you know. So was that flea was on that Star Wars, he was on commercials, he was in Family Guy.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:36

Yeah, you're right. No, I'm going red hot chili peppers. Imagine Chris is like, I'm going blink one 182 now. Sweet go the wrong way.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:45

So the red hot chili peppers move on. Lincoln Park. You don't have to go any further either.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:52

I was gonna say Lincoln Park all the way.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:53

Lincoln Park.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:54

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:57

Dude, see, there's good. Do you guys hate me? Wait, wait, sidebar talk. Did I hurt either one of you?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:03

Like, did I do something? We have our own text thread. We really do. Anything we can do to make your day worse.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:10

I also think it's crazy that Chris and I are just so much on the same wavelength right now.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:14

It's hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's let's see. So M M didn't get through. Pink Floyd, Pink Floyd or Garth Brooks didn't get through. Caether's not going through. Those were all of my picks.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:29

Do you guys hate me? Did I do something?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:32

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:34

Ouch, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:35

Um, I just I prefer Lincoln Park.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:39

Yeah. Lincoln Park versus Caether is probably the hardest decision for me, but it seems that I'm outvoted, so yes. Lincoln Park, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:47

That was sweet with red hot chili peppers and blink 182.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:50

I'm not sad that Lincoln Park moves on. Yes. But at the same time, I uh it hurts when there's not a discussion about one of the greatest rock bands of all time, Caether.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:01

You can talk about them.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:03

Chris. We already talked about Queen. What are you talking about? Chris.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:07

Yeah, you did use your your time on Queen.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:10

No other band has the line, I want to waste her monthly blood. Come on, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:16

Other than me, Nause.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:17

I think that's for good reason.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:19

That just sealed the deal for me, actually. So what do we have now? We have we have Queen Harry Styles Kanye.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:28

Kanye. One of them have to move forward. Queen versus Harry Styles versus Kanye.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:34

Kanye all the way.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:35

Let's let's talk about putting weapons in their hands and who's going to survive. Kanye.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:42

Kanye. She already has the tank lined up.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:48

Okay. I mean, I'm not I'm not against Kanye moving forward, but like a better than Queen?

SPEAKER_05 1:03:55

Yeah. Dude, I don't really like Queen. I'm gonna be honest with you.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:01

Okay. I mean, I it's like Kanye is my pick out of the three as well. I just thought you guys would have a problem.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:08

I can appreciate Queen. But if I'm gonna go through my songs, I'm picking a Kanye song.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:16

Clearly, Harry Styles is the weakest of the three.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:21

Chris, you really need to listen to Harry Styles. I'll send you the album.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:24

He's gonna be a super fan by the time this is.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:27

You are, dude. You're gonna love Harry Styles. He is he actually jokes aside, like he has a he's a fantastic artist. He really is.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:36

He's a better artist than Kanye. I'll I will say that. He's a better songwriter than Kanye. Well, no, actually, no, no, I can't say that, dude. I just thought about some of the Kanye songs, and like I can't.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:48

That's I think it's a better storyteller than Kanye.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:52

No, you don't think so? Gold digger, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:56

That is true. That is the greatest story of all time. It goes four generations.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:00

Yeah, dude. Yeah, Kanye does deserve to move forward, actually.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:05

God, I guess it's gonna look real rough on the internet here soon. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:11

Um Pink Floyd, Chili Peppers, Lincoln Park.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:16

Ooh. For me, it's the chili peppers, no question.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

I'm gonna go Lincoln Park.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:22

Really? I'm going Pink Floyd. So do we wait?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:27

How do we tie break?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:29

Do we rock it?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:32

No, so let's let's talk it out. Let's talk it out. Pink Floyd is substantially the most legendary artist, right? Yes, biggest catalog, second greatest album of all time, as far as record sales. Does not hold a candle to these other two, like, or these other two don't hold a candle to Pink Floyd. Yes. It in terms of pure musicianship and legacy and everything. Lincoln Park recently had to bring in a new singer because Chester killed himself. So they're rolling with a lineup that isn't even reminiscent of Lincoln Park. And she's she's a fine singer, she does fine, but like it's not Chester. So at the end of the day, like fans are still pretty pissed off about that. And then you got the Chili Peppers.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:24

But honestly, without Flea, who are they?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:28

John Ferjanti, Anthony Heatis, Chad Smith.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:32

Okay, those are not really tuck your boner away. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:37

I'm just saying, I'm just saying California Cation, the other thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:41

Fantastic. I do think Pink Floyd Pink Floyd on like even a historical level is like Berlin Walt, dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:51

Okay. You know what? I change I change I do change my vote to Pink Floyd. Really? Ice are we sure? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:04

Well, and you want to talk about revolutionary revolutionizing music, like between them and and red hot chili peppers. Dude, money. Are you kidding me?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:15

They they boom but like what do you mean?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:22

I'm taking that over California Cation any day. I really am.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:25

No, that's true. Yeah. Hey.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:29

Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:30

Here we are. Your finals are Kanye, who in and of himself has a lot. Croversy. He does. Versus Pink Floyd.

Finals Kanye Versus Pink Floyd

SPEAKER_00 1:07:48

Who has also a lot of controversy?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:52

Controversy. And you know what? And the true Cornell part of hearts that I am, I'm going Pink Floyd.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:00

I'm going Kanye.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:02

Oh, you get to be the deciding factor. That is so fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:06

Kanye is on record saying that Hitler had some good ideas. This is true.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:12

Are we talking about music? Hold on, hold on. Because we didn't bring up the Michael Jackson allegations.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:19

What I'm saying is Kanye has has some stuff on his record. Roger Waters, the lead singer of Pink Floyd, also well renowned for his stances on anti-Semitism. So he's an entire concert about it and loves telling people about it. He does.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:43

He loves bringing those hammers up.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:45

Waters, he really does.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:47

He really, really does. But you know what? If I had to pick one or the other, I'm still probably going pink flood.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:54

Outspoken political stance, pro oh, I'm sorry, he's the opposite. Pro-Palestinian activism and divisive comments regarding Israel, Ukraine, and Western foreign policy. So we have the two opposites of the spectrum.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:10

So do you want to support Hitler and his ideologies, or are you against Hitler and his ideologies? I mean it's what it boils down to.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:24

But for this moment, I really wish that we could play a song. It is stronger. I think that is one of the most underrated songs of all time. That song gets me so excited. Like you have no idea.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:21

That's really funny. Dude, if anyone's gonna sue us on the show, it's gonna be I mean, come on, guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:31

You can barely hear it.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:32

Come on, come on. Chris, I'm not reading that.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:37

Come on.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:37

That's a lot for me to read. I'm gonna be so honest with you. You can read it to me. You want to read it to me.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:44

Oh wow. I I can't wait to read this actually. But, anyways, what would the pink floid song?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:49

I'll read it after. I'll read it after.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:51

What would the Pink Floyd song be?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:52

My Pink Fluid song would be on the turning way. I think that is a beautiful song.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:58

It is, but if you're showing somebody something comparing it against Stronger, yes, but I I'm still going for like what does Stronger stand up for?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:09

Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:10

That that don't doesn't that doesn't kill me can it can only make me stronger.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:15

Kelly Carson said the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:17

She did, but not nearly as good of the bar, dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:19

I'm just saying, I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:21

Taylor, Taylor, Taylor. I I I need you to know that he has the line. Let's get lost tonight. You could be my black Kate Boss tonight. Play secretary, I'm the boss tonight. And you don't give a fuck what they all say, right? I mean, come on, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:44

What what's that? What's that line of Narnia? Don't don't don't talk to me about the dark magic which I was there when it was.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:54

Don't quote the dark magic, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:55

Yeah, don't quote the dark magic, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:59

So as far as a pink Floyd song, I personally would think that you would go with wish you were here. If you're gonna show somebody a Pink Floyd song, yeah, I guess so like I guess dang, can't even hear it.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:17

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:17

That is crazy.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:19

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:23

That is crazy. Yeah, actually, you know, you know why?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:26

Because they they know Can you tell me to feel real smile from the van. Help Pink Floyd.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:46

This is the song I would slip my wrist in. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:50

No, man. The internet's gonna hate me, but like my vote is Kanye.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:55

That's fine. Kanye can win. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:57

I thought I was gonna lose that one.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:00

Well, you here to hear, folks.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:02

I mean, I love Pink Floyd, but like I feel like I am one of the few people that love Pink Floyd. Like, I know Taylor loves Pink Floyd, I love Pink Floyd, but like the masses don't love Pink Floyd.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:16

They should.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:17

The masses also don't love Kanye, but I feel like if I'm in a room and I play stronger, more people are gonna be like, Oh, so you're you're trying to get the the vote of everybody and not standing up for what you believe in.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:33

I understand, I understand.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:34

I believe say the word for that. I believe that what doesn't kill me can only make me stronger. Work it faster.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:46

Well, you heard it here, folks. The the sweet 16 to champion of the Hook and Bridge podcast is Kanye West, everyone. Gosh, I can't wait. I can't wait to see the comments.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:05

Kanye West. That's crazy wins the event.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:16

Vamp. Cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:21

Cool. All right, everybody. Guys, you heard it here, folks.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:27

There you go. There it is. Kanye West was a good one. Oh, it's like a like a news broadcast. The bracket, everyone. It's incredible. This just in. Yeah, the internet's gonna have a lot of fun with that one, guys. Get ready for those comments.

Winner Reveal And Final Goodbye

SPEAKER_00 1:14:43

If we if you thought the AI talk was bad, wait till we have to defend this one.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:47

No, imagine they're like, no, no, no, we agree. Imagine if any of you say that.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:55

What's the ski what's the scarier thing? That we get a bunch of comments and backlash about saying that Kanye's awesome, or that we get an entirely new, gigantic audience of people that are like, Thank you for saying Kanye's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:09

The way I'd have to start using AI in my regular life would be crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:13

I just want Kanye to put it, leave a comment. You know, leave leave a comment in the comment section. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:18

I mean, that would be that would be pretty fucking sick, dude. I I'm worried about the things that'll get mailed to my house, though. Could you imagine? You just walk outside and there's like a new getup presented by Kanye. Chris, you know what I'm talking about. Fellow white man in a hat. You know what I mean. Oh, well, guys. All right, boys and girls. That is the show.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:51

That is the show. Do you want me to do it? Yeah, sure. Oh, okay. Cool. If you like today's episode, go ahead and give it a big thumbs up, subscribe, and don't forget to hit that bell notification so you can be notified every time we post a new video.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:08

Yeah, everybody. Thanks for hanging out today. I put in a bunch of work. You you should check out the YouTube page if you haven't already, and check out our website. I finally officially have the website completely done and updated and ready to go. There's nothing that is not done on there. So check out the website. And yeah, thanks for hanging out. That's it. Kanye. Kanye for president, everyone.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:37

Oh no.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:38

Oh getting the shirt.