Songs, Stories, And more Scott Blasey of The Clarks

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Good evening, everybody.

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Welcome back to the show.

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I am your host, Harley, joined by my co-host and little sister Taylor and an extremely special guest.

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Um excited.

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This has been four years in the making for me.

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This is honestly lifetime.

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You you were when we started the show, you were my second pick for a guest.

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I was like, eventually we will make this happen.

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Who was number one?

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Number one is a band called AJR.

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I'm I'm a giant AJR fan.

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You were number two.

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Uh so please, everybody, welcome Scott Blacey from the band, The Clarks.

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Um, you guys are so kind, thank you.

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Uh, I just want to say that your music has been such a major bonding experience for me and my sister for the last twenty two years.

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Um yeah, so great.

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Isn't that a beautiful thing about music?

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How it brings people together.

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It really is.

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Um I have a ton of questions for you, but I also want to tell you that uh your song Penny on the Floor was one of the first songs that I learned to play on the guitar, and it was the first song that I ever played live uh for an audience.

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Oh, that's so cool.

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Yeah, that's a good one to start.

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It's not too difficult, you know, just three well, G, D, C, and a little E minor for flavor.

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Mm-hmm.

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Uh it's it's like the perfect like uh uh rhythm exercise too.

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You know, it was it was that in December.

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I would do those for rhythm exercises.

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Great.

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Yeah, uh right hand is well, if you're a right-handed guitar player, that right hand is so important, um, you know, to be able to hold down a consistent rhythm.

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That's that's what it's all about.

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That's that's your your hand's your drummer.

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Yes, yeah, absolutely.

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Um, so I I wanna first off just show you a couple of things here as as Taylor and I am are super fans.

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Uh I I will say I have witnessed Harley fangirl a lot on the show, and I've never understood it.

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I'm like, listen, man, just take a breath.

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It's okay.

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I get it now.

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And you you and Todd Pipes have been my two fangirling experiences.

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No, I'm I'm honored.

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So this this first thing I want to show you here is a picture from 2014.

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Um my birthday.

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This is this is Taylor's birthday.

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We went and saw you guys at a little place in Akron called the Musica.

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Yeah, I love Musica.

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We just played there a couple months ago.

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This was right after the release of um is it Broken Dove is the album?

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Uh that's a song that's on the album.

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The album's called Feathers and Bones.

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Yes, Feathers and Bones.

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Thank you.

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Um one of my all-time favorite albums, and I just want to jump right in real quick with a quick question on that album specifically.

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Um, what is the song Broken Bones about?

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That song means so much to me.

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Broken Dove.

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Uh yeah, yeah, sorry.

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Uh Broken Dove, yeah.

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Um it's it's really about my father uh dying.

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Um it's it's uh it's maybe the most personal song I've ever written.

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Uh I'm super proud of it.

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Um I wrote it in a style that is not at all similar to how the recording ended up.

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Um I played it on acoustic guitar and it just wasn't working.

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Um we we tried a couple different things with the band, sort of at rehearsals.

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Um, and then we just put it to the side for a while.

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And it was our producer, Sean McDonald, and I think Rob, um Rob James, of course, our guitar player.

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I think they were sitting around in the studio one night, and and Rob came up with the guitar uh figure that that is eventually became sort of the the bedrock of the song.

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And um and they might have put some basic, just some some basic drums behind it.

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And uh they played it for me and said, What do you what do you think of this approach?

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And I was like, oh, that's that's fantastic.

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And then at that point, I think I don't I think at the up to that point, I don't know if I even had a had the bridge written yet.

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And and the lyrics certainly weren't done.

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I knew what I wanted the song to be about.

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Um and then uh you know they they put that together and and I finished it.

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And then uh I remember building that song in the studio.

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I think we we took Rob's um uh guitar part and then they they put drums to it.

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And it's not a real heavy, I mean there are parts of it that that have full instrumentation, but it's it's parts of it are are kind of spare.

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And uh just built it from there and and you know, bass and then uh acoustic guitar and and my voice.

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Love that song.

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I'm so glad that you connect with that.

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It's that's one of my top five for sure.

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Um I I as soon as you said that, I envisioned my dad was in real estate in Connellsville, where I grew up in Fayette County.

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Um, and he had a building where he had his office and he had apartments above it.

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And he had a you know, this was late 60s, early 70s, and uh I was just a little kid and running around that apart or those those apartments, um, and that office.

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And anytime that song comes up in conversation or or we we perform it, which is not often, um, my mind just immediately goes back to that that time and place.

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And that's another amazing thing about music, it's is its ability to sort of transport you to another place and time in your life.

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Yeah, every time I listen to that song, I cry.

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Like true, like it's so beautifully written.

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Um, I didn't realize that it was about your dad, I just thought it was gener generally about mortality, right?

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Right and and kind of coming to grips with your own mortality.

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Right.

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And I think now that I and I haven't listened, I I it's been a while since I've listened to it, and I you know, I I have a pretty good feel for it.

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But I I seem to recall lyrically, it's not really specific to my dad.

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I think it feels more like a um a romantic relationship, you know, a person losing a wife or a boyfriend losing a girlfriend, that kind of thing.

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I think it was I I sort of um I sort of went down that road with it, but it really is uh very specific to my dad.

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In fact, that album, uh it's one of my favorite Clark's albums.

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It's it's let it go, I think, at the top of the heap.

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Um there's a lot of mortality in that album.

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Um we Irene was Irene's another one, and my dad inspired that one as well, uh, along with Mindy McCready, and we can talk about that too.

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But um I'm trying to think of the time frame that came out in 2000 and let me see, 2000, probably uh 2003, 2014.

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Yeah, between 13 and 14, because magazine was like all over Froggy 104, right?

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Yeah, Froggy Radios or Introduction to Country Radio, yeah.

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Um and we had that album took years to make.

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I mean, we the album before that, um I think was uh Restless Days, and that was probably like 2009 or something like that.

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So it was a long period.

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That was one of the longest stretches, um, certainly up to that point that uh with not having released an album.

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And um so we had a lot of opportunity to write a lot of songs, and and you know, at that three or four year period, um, I lost my dad, I think Rob lost his mother, um, great one of Greg's in-laws, uh, and and and and a couple, one or two friends.

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I mean, there were just it seemed like every couple months or so we were going to a funeral.

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And we were all in our 50s, and it was just that time where our parents were were older.

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And um, you know, I just I love that album.

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Greg's song Feathers and Bones is, you know, it's it's really about timers and um and um to mortality to a gr degree.

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And then Irene, um the country singer, Mindy McCready, passed away in 2013.

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And I was not a huge uh fan of her music, but I I knew she was, and I I thought her story was really interesting.

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She was beautiful and talented, and she was troubled, and she died young.

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And I thought, man, that sounds like a great uh great subject for a song.

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And so I started working on a song called Irene.

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And it was right around the same time my father was, you know, the last weeks, month or two of his life.

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And uh by the time I got around to the third verse, even though um uh um it's it's uh the lyrics are are feminine in nature because but the whole third verse was really, you know, I was at my father's bedside and and the whole thing.

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So that that that is one of my all-time favorite cleric songs, that important, I think of right there at the top where you know, I've written, I don't know, a couple hundred songs maybe over a year career.

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And uh most of them I'm just kind of like, eh, it's okay.

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Right.

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And then then there's maybe 20 or 30.

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I'm like, yeah, that's that's a good song.

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I I I thought I did a good I did a good job on it.

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And then there's maybe a handful that I'm like, man, I just I nailed it.

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Yeah, and I I I said what I had to say, and it it fits that melody, and everything comes just perfectly.

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And usually uh the the the production, the recording of the song has something to do with my favorites because I I love the production on Irene, and it was really um that album was the most stripped-down song.

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It's really just maybe two acoustic guitars, the recording.

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Um I think there's some there's pedal steel on it, and maybe some sort of really subtle rhythm track in there as well.

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I can't really recall, but it's it's very bare bones.

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And it just I'll never forget the first time I heard the the finished version.

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I was in sitting actually right where I am sitting right now.

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And at the time my wife had a a desk here on the other side of the room, and I was listening to it, she was listening to it, and uh by the end of the song, I was just crying, you know, uh really of joy because I felt like I I I nailed the song, Sean McDonald nailed the production.

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Uh Gary Jacob played Petal Steel on it, and his his performance on that is just stellar.

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Everything about it came together, and I was I was crying when I went and said, Are you okay?

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I was like, Yeah, that's that's good stuff, man.

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When it can when it can bring you to tears or get you to it well up a little bit and uh get that lump in your throat, man.

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That's that's when you know you've really got something.

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Well, and and I love the line how you start the song off with the white limousine and then transitioning to the black limousine towards the end.

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That was such a clever way to kind of full circle life, man.

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It was it was beautiful in every sense of the world.

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That whole album truly is like um you have a ton of other fantastic albums, but that one to me was the most raw emotional album out of your entire catalog.

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Yep, I completely agree.

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And it was, it was very stripped down, and and uh the whole album in general was very stripped down comparative to your older songs for sure.

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Um, the other thing too is you guys played Irene at Musica that night, and it was the first time in my life that I actually got angry at a crowd.

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Uh you guys kind of started saying, like, hey, you know, we're gonna we're gonna play this stripped down song, it's gonna be just an acoustic guitar, kind of quiet.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Shut the fuck up, and then everybody's drinking and partying in the corner, and I'm like, this is the most emotional song in the world.

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What are we doing?

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Right, that's that's tough, man.

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I we we as a solo performer, you know, that's sometimes that happens, and yeah, yeah.

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You gotta be cool, but there's been one or two occasions where I've said, hey man, come on, people.

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Speaking of of being a solo performer, you want to listen to music, you just want to stand off in the corner and yeah, exactly.

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Yeah, good thing we have front row seats, so oh good.

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We heard everything.

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Honestly, I I really think like uh I've had fans and friends um come up to me and say, Man, I was so mad at so-and-so at this show.

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I just wanted to tell them to shut up.

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And yeah, and I was like, Oh, I I I barely noticed.

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I think sometimes our fans get more mad at that than yeah.

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We're we're kind of used to it.

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Um but you know, one thing with the band, um, you know, when you've got seven, six or seven guys on stage, uh, we can overwhelm everybody with volume.

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Right, right.

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Performing solo, although Irene is it's you know less volume.

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When I'm performing solo, you know, I I have to tailor my show to uh what kind of audience is this, you know.

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And I I I pick shows now.

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I've I'm fortunate the last couple of years I've been able to find venues that are listening rooms.

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There's no TVs, you know, it's a bar and it seats 80 or 100 people, and and everybody comes, they they come there to listen.

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Yeah.

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And uh, you know, those are the kind of shows where you know two thirds or a third of the show is just me talking, um telling stories, introducing songs, explaining where songs come from.

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And people love that.

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And I love to be able to do that.

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But when the opposite occurs, and I'm playing in a bar, or maybe the penguin game is off on in the other corner, and and that's fine too.

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I mean, uh it's all good.

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People uh they want to enjoy their night out, and and I'll I can work around that, you know.

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I get and there's still people paying attention, I'll play to them.

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But then if I feel like oh, I've got an opening here with oh, I got a little people paying attention because I played uh, you know, I don't know, In Your Eyes by Peter Gabriel, and suddenly I'm I've captured a few people.

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And then you can okay, I'm gonna play cigarette here because yeah, everybody will be like, Oh, yeah, another song.

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You're solo clear.

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You know how to go down those avenues.

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Right.

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It was rocking chair.

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Oh, yeah, man.

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Such a fantastic dude.

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I dude, I love it.

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You know, you know my solo stuff.

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So I listened to that song, and I was like, this is a combination of like uh Catman Do meets like Billy Idol.

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Like it was like it's so cool.

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It's like rockabilly enough, but like classic rock enough, you know?

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Yeah, it's it's a Bob Seeger report for sure.

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Yeah, yeah.

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As a matter of fact, I don't know if I should admit this, but I wrote it right after I heard I heard uh Benaloo's getting down.

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It's all right.

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Benaloo's getting out to know.

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I came home, I was like, oh I'm gonna write a song that's not like Ben Lu's getting out to know.

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That's that's that's what happened.

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Just turn into a walking chair.

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And the really cool thing about this, it's uh it's on my uh my EP uh here and now that came out a few years ago, if anybody's interested.

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Scott Blaze.

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You can get all that information and download, or not downloads, but streaming and videos and stuff.

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Um but uh I I gave I gave it, you know, I played it for the guys in the band.

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And it's uh it's a real just straight up bluesy bar rock song.

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Yeah.

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And and we call pinky rock.

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Where where you're you're you're playing those uh those blues things and you're you're using your pinky, and uh nobody really nobody wanted to do it the way it needed to be done.

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Yeah, but there's one way to do that song.

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And we were trying, oh let's get, you know, they were trying to get clever with it and and just not playing it straight ahead.

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And it just didn't work.

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And and that's fine, that uh that happens, you know.

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Sometimes it's just not meant to be with the with the clerks.

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And so I sat on it for a while, and I got a friend, uh really great drummer named Matt Muckle.

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Uh Muckle's played, he he he came up in Pittsburgh and he played with uh bands in the 90s, Seventh House, and and um uh I can't remember.

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He's on another band that was signed to Atlantic.

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Uh I'm I'm drawing a blank on their name.

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Nevertheless, he he went to LA and he's just he's played with these big time you know acts, and and and he's just fantastic.

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He's a great drummer, he's really, really good arranger and uh songwriter and producer, and and he's he's just manic, and he's just he's the wild, he's he's a wild dude.

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Um, and I play I knew I was like, oh, Muckle will get this song.

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And I ran into him somewhere and we were just you know, mutual fan club conversation.

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We're like, dude, we gotta work together.

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And I was like, I'm sending them this song right now.

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And I went over to a studio in Dormont with him and uh and another guy, and and uh we just we just played around with it and and Matt played the drums, you know.

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We just laid you know, we just uh built it up, you know, foundation.

00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:02.319
He I played the acoustic guitar part, we found the right tempo and and the structure of the song.

00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:06.880
He just played the drums on it, and and uh trying to think of who even came.

00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:10.880
Oh uh oh man, I'm drawing a blank now on the guys that played on it.

00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:16.319
We had uh uh Vinny Q um played guitar.

00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:26.400
And um and it was in a band called The Zippers, and uh and uh Joe Monroe played Keys.

00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.319
And uh Jeff uh Ford Thurston played guitar.

00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:35.599
Ford's an amazing guitar player that lives in Nashville now and plays with a bunch of country cats.

00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:42.640
And and um and they just put it all together, and I sang it in Joe Monroe's studio, and I just sang the shit out of it that one day.

00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:43.279
I was I don't know.

00:19:43.599 --> 00:19:45.759
Some days you just your voice is just it's there.

00:19:45.839 --> 00:19:46.640
It was the middle of the day.

00:19:46.799 --> 00:19:47.759
It's on, yeah.

00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.240
Yeah, it was just like I will, you know.

00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:51.279
Perfect.

00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:56.319
And uh it came out on an EP called uh uh Three the Hard Way a couple years ago.

00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:56.799
Thank you.

00:19:56.880 --> 00:19:58.319
I love that song too.

00:19:58.559 --> 00:19:59.599
Um let's go back.

00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:01.279
In time a little bit too.

00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:03.039
Uh if I had a gun.

00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:04.400
Oh wow.

00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:11.759
That song not only is it a great song, but it it almost resonates today as well.

00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:17.359
I'm curious, like when you wrote it, what what was like the story behind that song?

00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:20.400
Well, uh, let me give you the you can go back even further.

00:20:20.480 --> 00:20:26.559
I grew up in Carlsville in Fayette County, which is uh very rural, you know, very uh Appalachian.

00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:29.519
And um everybody hunts.

00:20:29.680 --> 00:20:31.680
Everybody, you know, everybody hunts.

00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:34.640
And everybody had, and guns were just ubiquitous.

00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:35.920
Um all good.

00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:46.640
And then I had my dad had, you know, my dad wasn't a big hunter or anything, but he had, you know, uh guns around and uh not necessarily loaded, but just in the garage.

00:20:46.880 --> 00:20:51.920
Um and um he was a World War II vet, and it was just you know, it's just not a big deal.

00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:57.920
Um and so I I I'd never shot a gun, you know.

00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:03.519
I you know, maybe shot BB guns or maybe 22 or something, but I never really um shot much.

00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:13.119
And then in the early early 90s, I had a good friend uh from IUP that I went to school with, a fraternity brother named Jeff Warnick from Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:21:13.440 --> 00:21:14.799
Sweetest guy in the world.

00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:17.519
Everybody loved him, good-looking dude, and girls loved him.

00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:29.920
I mean, he's just just a sweetheart, and uh was was tragically killed in a road rage incident in Columbus, Ohio in like 1991 or 92.

00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:33.599
Um, and uh it really affected me.

00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:37.119
It was the first person in my life who had ever passed away that I was really close to.

00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:38.000
I was very fortunate.

00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:39.759
You know, my parents were healthy.

00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:46.000
I the my grand I uh you know, I really only knew my maternal grandmother, so and she was still good at the time.

00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:49.920
So I've never had had to deal with death on that level, right?

00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:58.319
And it was so it was so violent and tragic and and and sudden and and just like it just shattered my world.

00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:01.119
Um it was really the end of the innocence.

00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:11.039
You know, I was probably uh 27, 28 years old, and and I remember that being a a line of demarcation of like uh it's uh it's different now.

00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:12.799
If life feels different.

00:22:13.119 --> 00:22:23.680
And uh and so I if I went through a a period where I really struggled with with firearms and just their availability and and and thinking about that.

00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:27.759
And uh and so that's where that title came from, if I had a gun.

00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:32.240
Um I had a reason to shoot, if I had a you know, if I had a reason to kill.

00:22:32.480 --> 00:22:38.400
And uh it just musing on on gee, another song about death.

00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:42.880
Um those are the ones you seem to be drawn to.

00:22:43.759 --> 00:22:45.440
Well, Harley needs terrible.

00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:50.000
Well, we're gonna be diving into those.

00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:54.000
You have you have one breakup song that might be my favorite song of all time.

00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:54.960
Which one?

00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:56.319
Uh Saturday.

00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:57.200
Saturday.

00:22:57.519 --> 00:22:58.079
Yeah, yeah.

00:22:58.400 --> 00:22:59.599
I love that song.

00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:00.400
Oh, that's fun.

00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:01.839
That's that's fun.

00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:04.640
That's the that's the complete opposite of if I had a gun.

00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:06.240
Um but thank you.

00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:14.240
I I I love that song too, and there are definitely people who um love that first solo album called Don't Try This At Home from 1994.

00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:15.279
Yeah, yeah.

00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:22.720
Which you can all all my solo stuff you can stream on all of the major platforms, uh just search corporations.

00:23:51.529 --> 00:24:02.170
Uh so let's talk about um you had an album come out in the 90s that was more of a collection.

00:24:02.330 --> 00:24:05.370
Well, I guess it wasn't the 90s, I guess it was the 2000s.

00:24:05.690 --> 00:24:09.850
Um, but it was more more so a collection of your work.

00:24:10.330 --> 00:24:16.569
I believe it was called uh between now and then is the name of it.

00:24:16.890 --> 00:24:24.170
Yeah, it was a best of it came out in actually 2005, because it came out after the fast moving cars album.

00:24:25.370 --> 00:24:26.009
Yeah.

00:24:26.490 --> 00:24:40.330
Um that album had basically resonated with my childhood, and uh I'm curious on how how did you come about?

00:24:40.569 --> 00:24:43.850
Oh stop everything right now.

00:24:44.090 --> 00:24:44.730
She wants to play.

00:24:44.809 --> 00:24:46.009
I know I don't I don't want to interrupt.

00:24:47.210 --> 00:24:50.090
No, you interrupt, you interrupt all day long.

00:24:51.289 --> 00:24:51.850
What is her name?

00:24:52.250 --> 00:24:53.049
This is Finley.

00:24:53.130 --> 00:25:00.410
She's a beautiful four-year-old uh French bulldog with a heart with a grade five heart murmur.

00:25:00.970 --> 00:25:06.009
Oh yeah, she we we have another French Lulu's, who's a little older.

00:25:06.090 --> 00:25:09.370
Um, and we got her from the same, got them at the same breeder.

00:25:09.769 --> 00:25:24.730
Um after we got Lulu, my wife heard about Finley because she she the woman that uh uh that breeds them has a Facebook page and and uh she couldn't sell Finley because you know she's she's not not the healthiest.

00:25:25.130 --> 00:25:27.289
Um and she was just looking for a good home.

00:25:27.370 --> 00:25:30.009
And she posted on Facebook, and my wife messaged me.

00:25:30.090 --> 00:25:31.930
She said, We have to have this dog.

00:25:34.569 --> 00:25:37.049
I texted back, I was like, Oh my god, babe.

00:25:37.210 --> 00:25:39.130
Uh no, I love Lulu's so easy.

00:25:39.210 --> 00:25:41.529
She's she's house bridge, you know, she's done, she's good.

00:25:41.610 --> 00:25:42.970
Yeah, we don't want another dog.

00:25:43.210 --> 00:25:44.650
So, you know, we got the dog.

00:25:44.970 --> 00:25:46.330
We are dog people.

00:25:46.490 --> 00:25:46.970
We are dogs.

00:25:47.610 --> 00:25:48.090
We are.

00:25:48.569 --> 00:25:49.130
Oh my god.

00:25:50.410 --> 00:25:52.009
Oh, it's my baby now.

00:25:52.330 --> 00:26:03.289
He just, you know, when I go to sleep, she's she's she's like 20 pounds, finds whatever little nook or cranny in your elbow or side or whatever.

00:26:04.490 --> 00:26:09.130
It's like the meme the dads with the dog they didn't want when just snuggling with the dog.

00:26:11.850 --> 00:26:12.970
Nope, I don't want her.

00:26:13.210 --> 00:26:14.009
No, don't play it.

00:26:14.090 --> 00:26:15.450
I've got work to do.

00:26:16.490 --> 00:26:20.730
Um we will talk about on Saturday, which is a song Greg Greg wrote.

00:26:20.970 --> 00:26:30.970
And it's probably our our our lightest, uh, most just boop doop do do do do do do doop.

00:26:31.370 --> 00:26:32.970
And uh people love it.

00:26:33.049 --> 00:26:35.289
I mean, we we played it so good.

00:26:35.690 --> 00:26:38.250
Yeah, I can't get out of the venue without playing on Saturday.

00:26:38.650 --> 00:26:45.210
It's one of those like as soon as it started for me, when you start introducing the instruments and they all slowly come together, man.

00:26:45.450 --> 00:26:48.250
Yeah, that was the first time I had ever heard something like that.

00:26:48.410 --> 00:26:48.730
Yeah, yeah.

00:26:48.970 --> 00:26:50.730
And I was like, this is incredible.

00:26:50.970 --> 00:26:57.610
Yeah, our producer at the time, Justin Nebank, uh really terrific producer down in Franklin, Tennessee.

00:26:57.930 --> 00:27:00.090
Big time, big time dude.

00:27:00.330 --> 00:27:05.690
Um I think there was a lot of his influence on that particular song, too.

00:27:05.769 --> 00:27:10.809
I don't a lot of that I didn't I didn't really uh I can't remember coming up with that on my own.

00:27:10.970 --> 00:27:14.170
I think he said, Hey, introduce things, just talk a little.

00:27:14.490 --> 00:27:21.690
Um and uh but but the um um the little spoken word stuff that happens in the middle.

00:27:21.850 --> 00:27:24.650
Um my wife was calling.

00:27:24.809 --> 00:27:27.130
Um uh I think I came up with that.

00:27:27.210 --> 00:27:29.289
He's like, Oh, I I was like a placeholder.

00:27:29.450 --> 00:27:31.210
He's like, Oh no, no, that's great, keep that.

00:27:31.289 --> 00:27:33.930
Just just talk, just just do that thing.

00:27:34.490 --> 00:27:39.370
So uh hold on one, give me one second.

00:27:39.450 --> 00:27:39.930
I'm so sorry.

00:27:40.410 --> 00:27:41.289
No, no, you're fine.

00:27:41.610 --> 00:27:42.250
Wife comes first.

00:27:43.210 --> 00:27:44.410
Yeah, wife always comes first.

00:27:44.569 --> 00:27:45.130
Oh, yeah.

00:27:45.529 --> 00:27:47.450
Wife and kids always first.

00:27:48.730 --> 00:27:53.610
Well, dog, wife and kids in that order.

00:27:54.250 --> 00:27:57.049
Well, so that was gonna be my question for you, Scott.

00:27:57.289 --> 00:27:59.049
Butterflies and airplanes.

00:27:59.289 --> 00:28:02.009
Oh what is that song about?

00:28:02.730 --> 00:28:07.049
Well, I know the meaning behind it, however, I didn't write it.

00:28:07.289 --> 00:28:09.930
Um Greg wrote it.

00:28:10.009 --> 00:28:14.170
As a matter of fact, Greg wrote the last three songs you just brought up.

00:28:14.410 --> 00:28:21.289
Um and that that's that's the holy trinity of Greg Joseph songs right there.

00:28:21.690 --> 00:28:38.090
Um so, anyhow, uh it's really about Greg's sort of high school experience, just a very broad, broad-based um uh tales from teenage life in in the North Hill of Pittsburgh.

00:28:38.250 --> 00:28:46.809
Um, and and he has you know specific scenarios that that uh he could talk more about, but um that in a nutshell is what that song's about.

00:28:46.890 --> 00:28:47.850
I always love that song.

00:28:47.930 --> 00:28:49.610
I love love the imagery of that song.

00:28:49.769 --> 00:28:51.450
And here's a funny story about that song.

00:28:51.529 --> 00:28:59.210
We recorded that we call it the kneebank trilogy, which is just the kneebank, the three songs or the three albums that he produced for us.

00:28:59.450 --> 00:29:03.610
Yeah, Let It Go, Another Happy Ending, and uh Fast Moving Cars.

00:29:04.170 --> 00:29:09.529
So that so Butterflies is on uh the first one, it was the first time we'd worked together.

00:29:09.769 --> 00:29:11.450
And Greg always sang it live.

00:29:11.529 --> 00:29:14.890
And when we got to the studio, we're like, you know, Greg's gonna sing this song.

00:29:15.049 --> 00:29:17.370
And Justin was not happy about it.

00:29:17.610 --> 00:29:20.809
He he's like, there's that you have a lead singer for a reason.

00:29:20.970 --> 00:29:23.370
Yeah, uh, we're not having Scott play lead guitar.

00:29:23.610 --> 00:29:26.009
You know, why would Greg sing the song?

00:29:26.250 --> 00:29:37.690
And we're like, well, he sings it live and people love it, and and it's it's fun to get the other guys involved in that way, and he very begrudgingly agreed to let Greg sing it.

00:29:37.769 --> 00:29:53.130
And I remember one or two occasions when Greg was doing the vocal, and you know, he never really sung a lead vocal in a studio like that before, and just was struggling with a couple things, and Justin was very disgusted and let us all know that you know he he wasn't on board with this.

00:29:53.370 --> 00:29:55.610
That said, it it turned out great.

00:29:55.769 --> 00:30:07.850
Yeah, I mean it's a great sounding song, and Greg sounds great on it, and it's cool because I do the background vocal, and when we play it live, people love it, and it's it's a live thing for him.

00:30:08.009 --> 00:30:14.330
It gives me a little break uh in the sense uh vocally, so it's it's one of my favorites.

00:30:14.730 --> 00:30:18.569
We play it 80% of the time on yeah, great song.

00:30:18.890 --> 00:30:20.809
How about Tree House?

00:30:21.130 --> 00:30:29.210
That one was another one growing up that was very, very influential in my teen years.

00:30:29.450 --> 00:30:29.850
Uh-huh.

00:30:30.250 --> 00:30:34.410
Um Tree House was a song about growing up.

00:30:34.490 --> 00:30:39.210
Um being a kid, you know, one, two, three, hey Marie.

00:30:39.769 --> 00:30:43.529
And um uh once you climb that tree up to the sky.

00:30:43.610 --> 00:30:51.850
It was just it was just this a rumination on on youth, on being a kid, on being eight years old, ten years old, thirteen years old.

00:30:52.090 --> 00:30:55.529
Um, and uh pretty simple.

00:30:55.610 --> 00:31:01.850
Uh although it's the it's the opening song of the third album, and um it really introduced that album.

00:31:01.930 --> 00:31:03.850
And that was a that was a good album.

00:31:04.009 --> 00:31:07.450
Um, Love Gone Sour Suspicion and Bad Death on it.

00:31:07.850 --> 00:31:10.170
And there were definitely moments on that album.

00:31:10.330 --> 00:31:15.210
There was definitely songwriting growth um from the second album.

00:31:15.289 --> 00:31:19.210
Uh I mean there's some good stuff on there too, but we started to write different styles.

00:31:19.289 --> 00:31:24.330
There's a song on there called Madeline, uh which got a great vibe.

00:31:24.410 --> 00:31:29.370
It got airplay up on a really cool station in in Cleveland called 1079 the end.

00:31:29.529 --> 00:31:31.610
It was like their alternative straight station.

00:31:31.769 --> 00:31:36.410
It's just like this mid-tempo, moody, uh beautiful song about women.

00:31:36.569 --> 00:31:43.130
I mean, it's and and so um treehouse was the opening salvo, and it really set the tone for the album.

00:31:43.210 --> 00:31:48.330
And it it it's very, it's a very very Clark's like song.

00:31:48.490 --> 00:31:52.490
I mean, that's that's kind of what we did, that what we did maybe best.

00:31:52.650 --> 00:32:03.850
We've dabbled in a lot of other things, but that sort of straight ahead rock and roll, what you probably now might call Americana style, uh guitar rock.

00:32:03.930 --> 00:32:12.569
It was it was early 90s guitar rock, uh a lot of the gin blossoms and even the bands that I loved from that era.

00:32:13.289 --> 00:32:29.289
Um the other thing, too, that I wanted to ask you is um this this may be diving back into a little bit of a dark territory, but um is Hey You about somebody that you knew personally?

00:32:30.090 --> 00:32:31.049
Hey You no.

00:32:31.130 --> 00:32:33.610
Uh Hey You I wrote on 9-11.

00:32:33.850 --> 00:32:36.809
I wrote that on really one.

00:32:37.289 --> 00:32:41.049
I had no intention of writing a song, you know.

00:32:41.690 --> 00:32:53.130
And so the night before I went out with a buddy of mine, went out and had some beers, and uh came back early because the the band was rehearsing for another happy ending.

00:32:53.210 --> 00:32:55.210
We were doing we were in what we call pre-production.

00:32:55.289 --> 00:32:58.730
Our our Justin, our producer, was up in Pittsburgh.

00:32:58.890 --> 00:33:04.090
We had a house in Highland Park called the Clark House on Jackson Street, and we rehearsed there.

00:33:04.170 --> 00:33:13.049
And and so uh everybody was coming over Tuesday morning around 10 o'clock or so, or maybe a little earlier, to um to work on songs.

00:33:13.450 --> 00:33:18.009
And uh so the the next morning, about 8:30 or so, my my cell phone rings.

00:33:18.170 --> 00:33:20.890
It was a foot phone, you know, it was 2001.

00:33:21.289 --> 00:33:26.250
And uh my buddy from the night before, and I was I was still half asleep, so I didn't answer it.

00:33:26.410 --> 00:33:30.330
And then he called right back, and I was like, oh, something's something's up.

00:33:30.490 --> 00:33:35.210
So I picked up the phone, he's like, dude, turn on the TV, uh, I'll talk to you later.

00:33:35.450 --> 00:33:39.210
So I think when I turned on the TV, it was me, you know, it was probably 8 45 or so.

00:33:39.289 --> 00:33:43.690
I can't remember exactly what time the first plane hit, but that's where I walked in on it.

00:33:43.769 --> 00:33:47.610
You know, the first plane had hit, nobody knew anything really.

00:33:48.170 --> 00:33:53.289
And uh and I sat there just slackjawed, like what could have possibly happened?

00:33:53.690 --> 00:33:58.490
And then um, and then I can't remember if somebody had come in before the second plane hit.

00:33:58.569 --> 00:34:18.809
I think somebody did, and and we just we all everybody congregated, the four guys in the band and Justin, and we sat there for two or three hours, yeah, that long, and just watched TV and and talked a little bit, but mainly just kind of sat there in shock and watched you know our country being attacked, and then the Pentagon, and then Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

00:34:19.529 --> 00:34:23.610
And uh, you know, as soon as the second plane hit, you knew it was it was terrorism.

00:34:24.090 --> 00:34:25.049
Right, right.

00:34:26.170 --> 00:34:35.609
And finally, Justin was like, Well, we we heard reports, you know, the sky, you know, skies are shut down, there's no no air travel, and Justin had a rental car.

00:34:35.689 --> 00:34:38.649
He's like he said, I'm driving back to back to Franklin.

00:34:38.809 --> 00:34:41.449
His wife lived there, and and they lived there.

00:34:41.609 --> 00:34:46.329
And so he drove back, and and then eventually the guys, I was the last one that living in that house.

00:34:46.409 --> 00:34:49.609
Everybody else was either married or girlfriend and lived elsewhere.

00:34:49.849 --> 00:34:51.769
And so they they all left.

00:34:51.929 --> 00:34:53.929
And it's like three o'clock in the afternoon.

00:34:54.009 --> 00:34:56.730
It's a beautiful late summer day.

00:34:56.969 --> 00:34:59.289
And I went for a roll, I went rollerblading.

00:34:59.369 --> 00:35:02.969
I I got out my my skates and I went downtown Pittsburgh.

00:35:03.289 --> 00:35:08.969
Beautiful, beautiful day, and so surreal because the the streets were empty.

00:35:09.129 --> 00:35:13.289
I mean, there were just no, it was the middle of the day on a Tuesday, and there was nobody around.

00:35:13.529 --> 00:35:31.210
There was a guy selling the Pittsburgh Press, which was a newspaper in Pittsburgh at the time, standing on a street corner with a bag and holding up a newspaper, just very um sort of middle of a century-esque, you know, that that that's how people got their news.

00:35:31.369 --> 00:35:35.449
Um, and still at that time, a lot of people still got their news that way.

00:35:35.689 --> 00:35:42.969
And so uh it was just so strange, and really it was selling to nobody because it was really, you know, again, there were almost nobody around.

00:35:43.129 --> 00:35:45.769
Um, a couple fighter jets flew over.

00:35:45.929 --> 00:36:08.089
I went for a skate, just trying to process, and uh went home, made dinner, went upstairs just to play my guitar just for for comfort, and you know, put the cape on the second front and just started strumming this thing, and and words came out and and the the lyrics are very um they're kind of uh veiled.

00:36:08.169 --> 00:36:17.769
Um you don't know uh obviously I mean the way you just posed the question, if you don't know it's about 9-11, um, you probably won't associate it with it.

00:36:18.009 --> 00:36:28.009
But uh I think what's fun about this, not fun about the songs is is good about the song, is as soon as you know it's about 9-11, all of a sudden like the window opens.

00:36:28.169 --> 00:36:30.009
It's like, oh yeah, yeah.

00:36:30.250 --> 00:36:33.769
I I get it, it's very tailored to that, right?

00:36:34.409 --> 00:36:35.289
Imagery.

00:36:35.529 --> 00:36:39.210
Um, so uh one of my favorite songs, people love that song.

00:36:39.369 --> 00:36:49.289
Uh we don't do it live a lot, but every once in a while, um yeah, uh certainly a lot of meaning to that one, probably top 10, top 15 for me.

00:36:49.849 --> 00:36:55.529
How do you feel about the exciting news you guys just put out?

00:36:55.769 --> 00:37:02.489
Um the the new released version of Better Off Without You is gonna be on an HBO show.

00:37:04.329 --> 00:37:08.169
It was last night, it was dude, it was like Christmas morning.

00:37:08.250 --> 00:37:10.809
It was just uh I was nervous beforehand.

00:37:10.969 --> 00:37:13.529
I was just like this is this is really cool.

00:37:13.769 --> 00:37:33.289
You know, tens of millions of viewers, and and the show opens with um the drum intro, and it opens up to the skyline of Pittsburgh as the sun's coming up, and uh one of the sister bridges, and uh a good 30 or 40 seconds of it, very prominent.

00:37:33.609 --> 00:37:35.369
And uh the main character Dr.

00:37:35.449 --> 00:37:38.409
Robbie's riding his motor motorcycle across the bridge.

00:37:38.969 --> 00:37:39.929
And it was so cool.

00:37:40.009 --> 00:37:42.889
We've known it was gonna happen for the last four or five months.

00:37:43.210 --> 00:37:46.250
We weren't sure how they were gonna use it in right.

00:37:47.929 --> 00:37:57.929
But uh I was convinced last night at 8 45 that they were it was all a joke and they weren't gonna use it, and then I was gonna have to explain to everybody why they don't hear it.

00:37:58.329 --> 00:37:59.210
Completely irrational.

00:37:59.689 --> 00:38:02.409
I was just nervous pacing around like, oh, they're not gonna use it.

00:38:02.489 --> 00:38:04.409
This is gonna be a complete disaster.

00:38:04.809 --> 00:38:07.289
They'll they're gonna change their mind last minute.

00:38:08.649 --> 00:38:12.329
Me every day of my life with the imposter syndrome.

00:38:13.129 --> 00:38:14.169
Like jokes on you.

00:38:14.329 --> 00:38:15.849
You're just kidding.

00:38:16.649 --> 00:38:19.849
Um, Scott, are you a bit of a history buff?

00:38:20.489 --> 00:38:22.329
Uh yeah, uh yes, absolutely.

00:38:22.489 --> 00:38:24.009
Loved history and still do.

00:38:24.489 --> 00:38:29.689
And I I was more of a history and English type of guy rather than a math and science type of guy.

00:38:29.929 --> 00:38:32.169
Yeah, uh yeah, like World War II history.

00:38:32.250 --> 00:38:34.809
My father and my uncle in World War II.

00:38:35.129 --> 00:38:39.609
And uh yeah, history, particularly American history, the last maybe 200 years or so.

00:38:40.250 --> 00:38:46.329
There are not very many songs out there that make reference to Thomas Edison.

00:38:47.049 --> 00:38:52.089
Okay, you hold that torch loud and perfect.

00:38:52.329 --> 00:38:53.049
Yes, you do.

00:38:56.809 --> 00:39:01.689
So honestly, I didn't realize this until recently.

00:39:01.929 --> 00:39:05.849
Um, you have that on your first solo album.

00:39:06.089 --> 00:39:07.049
Yes, right.

00:39:07.769 --> 00:39:12.009
Did you do that song before the Clarks?

00:39:12.250 --> 00:39:14.089
Yes, or yeah, yeah.

00:39:14.329 --> 00:39:15.769
Yeah, I recorded it.

00:39:16.009 --> 00:39:30.889
Um I I made a couple solo records with a guy named Rick Witkowski, uh uh was a guitar player in a great band called Prague Band, uh, late 60s and 70s, 70s, called Crack the Sky.

00:39:31.289 --> 00:39:38.730
And um he's a producer and musician, lives in Weirdon, West Virginia, has a studio at his house, and I became good friends with him over the years.

00:39:38.809 --> 00:39:46.809
And I I had some and going back to the early 90s, I I would I would have a batch of songs and I would want to get a decent demo of them.

00:39:46.889 --> 00:39:50.489
I could play them for the the guys in the band and and whoever else.

00:39:50.649 --> 00:39:56.169
And so I would go to his studio and just take an acoustic guitar and we we would record you know decent demos.

00:39:56.730 --> 00:40:06.649
And so I put out a solo album called Don't Try This at Home in 1994, which is we talked about earlier, had it if I had a gun, flame and some other really cool Mercury, some cool stuff.

00:40:06.889 --> 00:40:07.210
Yeah, yeah.

00:40:07.369 --> 00:40:08.569
Mercury was on there, yeah.

00:40:08.730 --> 00:40:08.969
Yeah.

00:40:09.210 --> 00:40:17.049
So in in in 97, we were dropped by MCA, our record label, and we we we were like, Ah, should we even keep going?

00:40:17.129 --> 00:40:49.849
So we made the live record, and over the course of that time, um we were all writing a lot of songs, and I wrote Born Too Late during that time period, and it was always I always had this imagery of uh um uh referencing famous people throughout history and alluding to what they were famous for, maybe only using one of the names and make it a little bit of a uh uh an uh a history exercise or um a puzzle in some way.

00:40:50.089 --> 00:40:52.809
And at the time we had been dropped by a record label.

00:40:52.889 --> 00:40:59.289
I think my girlfriend had broken up with me, and so I was losing things, and so that's where the chorus sort of a hard time leaving this town.

00:40:59.449 --> 00:41:06.889
I felt like the band was spinning its wheels and losing everything that I found, and and that's where that chorus goes.

00:41:07.049 --> 00:41:11.929
But those that those characters uh all started with Jimi Hendrix.

00:41:12.009 --> 00:41:24.250
I was sitting at home uh in the Clark House in Jackson Street, uh Highland Park, and watching a documentary on Jimmy, and I was so inspired, he was so um musically brilliant.

00:41:24.409 --> 00:41:30.649
And uh when the documentary was over, I picked up my guitar and and just kind of started writing.

00:41:30.730 --> 00:41:33.689
Um, you know, the first one's Vincent, will you teach me how to paint?

00:41:33.769 --> 00:41:37.529
And I had already kind of figured out, oh, okay, Jimmy, will you teach me how to play?

00:41:37.689 --> 00:41:40.009
And that's what that's how this is gonna go.

00:41:40.169 --> 00:41:49.689
And then it was just filling in the blanks with with people and and how it would, you know, how those people would rhyme together and who to put in different verses with each other.

00:41:49.929 --> 00:41:51.849
And uh I love that song.

00:41:51.929 --> 00:41:55.529
It's it's it's a definitely a high watermark uh for me as a sonic.

00:41:56.569 --> 00:41:57.929
It's so good.

00:41:58.489 --> 00:42:01.689
So a funny little fact about me on that song.

00:42:01.849 --> 00:42:07.529
Um, until Apple came out with the ability to see lyrics on your phone.

00:42:07.689 --> 00:42:12.089
Yeah, I thought the line was Jimmy, teach me how to play that thing.

00:42:12.329 --> 00:42:15.769
Elvis will I ever be the be a king, and then it will.

00:42:15.849 --> 00:42:19.289
I thought it was and cherish all the love that you bring.

00:42:20.009 --> 00:42:22.730
I didn't realize you were making a reference to Jerry.00:42:23.289 --> 00:42:23.689


Jerry.00:42:24.250 --> 00:42:27.449


That's the only one that ever pe people ever really aren't sure.00:42:27.529 --> 00:42:30.969


Because there's like Jerry Garcia, uh, Jerry Lewis.00:42:31.369 --> 00:42:34.969


You know, there was a there were a few at the time like Jerry Seinfeld.00:42:35.210 --> 00:42:36.329


Jerry Seinfeld, yeah.00:42:36.569 --> 00:42:38.809


Yeah, there were there were a few options.00:42:38.889 --> 00:42:41.289


Uh I assume it's about Jerry Lewis, right?00:42:41.529 --> 00:42:42.809


It was Jerry Garcia.00:42:43.129 --> 00:42:43.849


Oh, really?00:42:44.169 --> 00:42:54.329


I'm I'm not a deadhead, but at the time I really appreciated uh what he did, and I'd seen some interviews with him, and he's just a funny seemed like a great guy, great hang.00:42:54.730 --> 00:42:55.049


Yeah.00:42:55.849 --> 00:42:57.769


I was just like, oh, he's a he's a cool dude.00:42:58.009 --> 00:43:00.649


And so uh that that's the music verse.00:43:00.809 --> 00:43:06.649


That one's Elvis, what um uh uh um Jimmy, Elvis, and Jerry.00:43:06.809 --> 00:43:08.969


So there's no in that one.00:43:09.769 --> 00:43:21.449


Um, so the last thing I want to talk to you about is um basically you've had this incredible, long-standing career.00:43:21.689 --> 00:43:24.569


Uh, like I said, you are a Pittsburgh legend.00:43:24.730 --> 00:43:25.049


Yeah.00:43:25.289 --> 00:43:30.250


And I moved to Virginia about what, almost eight years ago now.00:43:30.569 --> 00:43:35.449


And I recently was in Walmart and heard a Clark song on the radio.00:43:35.529 --> 00:43:41.210


Yeah, and I got so excited, I was I was like, that's crazy.00:43:41.529 --> 00:43:44.889


And it was one that I hadn't heard before, too, which was even more incredible.00:43:45.210 --> 00:43:46.809


So I was like, I gotta find this.00:43:47.049 --> 00:43:56.169


Um, but that brought up a great thing that I wanted to ask you is like, what what does it look like in the next couple of years for the Clarks?00:43:56.250 --> 00:44:00.649


Like, are you guys pushing hard for a bit more of an expansion?00:44:02.569 --> 00:44:06.250


Uh no, we're not pushing hard for a bit more of expansion.00:44:06.409 --> 00:44:14.969


Now, if we could somehow easily expand without pushing hard, without the effort, we would take expansion.00:44:15.529 --> 00:44:18.969


Yeah, but certainly for the next at least the next couple years.00:44:19.129 --> 00:44:22.169


My my youngest daughter is a sophomore in high school.00:44:22.329 --> 00:44:29.929


I have two in college, and my wife and I are just, you know, we're just getting our transitioning our kids into college and adult life.00:44:30.089 --> 00:44:37.369


And until Graceland at least, you know, leaves for for college in a few years, um, my work here is not yet done.00:44:37.689 --> 00:44:42.329


So after that, um then we'll see.00:44:42.489 --> 00:44:52.009


Um if we're all healthy and and feel like oh, it'd be go it'd be fun to take a long weekend and go to play in Chicago and Milwaukee and Wisconsin.00:44:52.169 --> 00:44:53.289


We just do that all the time.00:44:53.529 --> 00:45:05.049


We've great fans uh in that part of the country and um go back down to the Carolinas and and to Florida, where there's so many people from western Pennsylvania that have like moved south.00:45:05.369 --> 00:45:05.689


Exactly.00:45:06.009 --> 00:45:16.089


So you just go start going down 95 and and you know from from New York to Miami, um, you'll find Pittsburghers, which is awesome.00:45:16.569 --> 00:45:18.649


Yes, uh we'll see.00:45:18.730 --> 00:45:19.449


I don't know.00:45:19.609 --> 00:45:32.329


Uh I I know that writing new material, recording new material, playing new songs is really our lifeblood, and we we continue to do it because we we couldn't do it without uh new music.00:45:32.489 --> 00:45:41.129


Uh that being said, we're we're we're like this sort of really big uh ship that's kind of slow and it doesn't turn real fast.00:45:41.529 --> 00:45:46.009


Um it's impressive and it's it's steady and it's not going anywhere.00:45:46.569 --> 00:45:52.649


But it's not gonna, you know, it's not gonna suddenly, oh go, let's go over here and go somewhere really fast.00:45:53.129 --> 00:45:54.969


It's gonna take a little time.00:45:55.289 --> 00:46:07.769


Um, but I we're definitely we'll definitely continue to write uh new songs and and record new songs and and try to play fun shows with with some surprises and songs we haven't played in a long time.00:46:07.929 --> 00:46:13.210


And um you have to balance you know what you want to play with what you think people might really enjoy hearing.00:46:13.369 --> 00:46:23.929


So to answer your question, uh no, no no big fast expansion, but hopefully, and and with the pit thing, um, you know, just just a growth.00:46:24.009 --> 00:46:29.769


I mean, just any kind of growth, just sort of slow bacterial type type growth is fine.00:46:30.889 --> 00:46:32.489


Just bigger than you were.00:46:32.649 --> 00:46:32.889


Yeah.00:46:33.929 --> 00:46:35.929


The tentacles just keep going a little bit farther.00:46:36.489 --> 00:46:39.689


This person tells that person, and that person turns on this person.00:46:39.929 --> 00:46:44.169


And eat and that's the crazy that's the beautiful thing, another beautiful thing about music.00:46:44.250 --> 00:46:50.489


And you know, you can be a 40-year-old band and you're still new to a lot of people, someone, yeah.00:46:51.049 --> 00:47:01.129


Which is, you know, the certainly the case with the pit, because there will be out of the tens of millions of people who will watch the show, there will be some that'll be like, Oh, I really like that song.00:47:01.289 --> 00:47:02.169


Who is that?00:47:02.569 --> 00:47:05.049


And uh, it's not hard to figure those things out now.00:47:05.129 --> 00:47:13.929


You just search, even if you just search the pit because of the EP that we released, you know, that'll that'll show up in the results and be like, Oh, it's the clerks better off without you.00:47:14.169 --> 00:47:17.210


So that yeah, that that's great.00:47:17.449 --> 00:47:17.849


Yeah.00:47:18.089 --> 00:47:20.569


Um, I will say one of the saddest things.00:47:20.730 --> 00:47:31.129


So I moved from Ohio to Virginia and then Virginia to Florida, and moving to Florida, I didn't realize it until my best friend texted me about ribs and rock.00:47:31.289 --> 00:47:35.369


And I was like, Oh, the Clarks are not readily available to me anymore.00:47:35.689 --> 00:47:38.169


I have been to many of your concerts, yeah.00:47:38.409 --> 00:47:42.569


So, like the fact that that's just like I can't just go to Boardman, right?00:47:42.809 --> 00:47:48.889


You know, I can't just enjoy and I was I was so sad, it was heartbreaking for me.00:47:49.210 --> 00:47:54.489


Clarks with Clarks withdrawal, it's a real thing, it's a real thing, and I have it bad.00:47:54.809 --> 00:48:00.089


Oh, we need like franchises like Promantees, like we need to hire like Florida.00:48:02.009 --> 00:48:03.769


We have the trademark, they're sanctions.00:48:03.929 --> 00:48:08.169


They're in Orlando and Jacksonville and Tampa.00:48:08.649 --> 00:48:18.250


Yeah, I don't think I have ever had, and I don't have like parasocial relationships, that's a little weird, but it was one of those things where I was like, Oh, that is devastating to me.00:48:18.489 --> 00:48:21.129


Once I thought about it, I was like, Oh, that is awful.00:48:21.449 --> 00:48:22.809


Well, that's that's a beautiful thing.00:48:23.689 --> 00:48:25.210


You miss your clerks, your music.00:48:25.529 --> 00:48:27.049


I miss, I miss it bad.00:48:27.369 --> 00:48:28.009


I'm with you.00:48:28.169 --> 00:48:31.849


I would miss it too if I couldn't play it anymore.00:48:32.969 --> 00:48:40.250


Um, so I just I just want to say this interview has been a dream come true, man.00:48:40.409 --> 00:48:42.489


Truly, like I can't thank you enough.00:48:42.809 --> 00:48:51.929


Um like your music has helped me through some of the darkest times in my life, in my childhood, some of the most beautiful times in my life.00:48:52.169 --> 00:49:05.449


And like I'm I'm so excited for years and years to come of your guys' music and your music, and your writing style is just incredibly articulate and beautiful.00:49:05.689 --> 00:49:12.889


Um, I think that uh you really really put your heart into your your songs and it really shows.00:49:13.049 --> 00:49:19.049


And I urge everyone, please check out Scott Blacey, check out the Clarks.00:49:19.369 --> 00:49:22.169


Um, I do want to play this game with you though.00:49:22.329 --> 00:49:25.769


Um how do you how do you that was that was beautiful.00:49:25.849 --> 00:49:27.769


I I dude thank you.00:49:28.169 --> 00:49:30.169


I I try not to get emotional, man.00:49:30.250 --> 00:49:48.889


I I don't want to cry, but like it truly it yeah that's that's that's uh really that is maybe the greatest thing about music is its ability to to get people through difficult periods in their lives and then um being able to celebrate the the good times in their lives as well.00:49:49.049 --> 00:49:50.649


Um I I use it too.00:49:50.730 --> 00:49:55.289


I mean, I have obviously my favorite artists um have gotten me through a lot.00:49:55.449 --> 00:49:58.569


So I appreciate it and I know where you're coming from.00:49:58.649 --> 00:50:00.649


Uh so let's play this game.00:50:01.210 --> 00:50:02.489


So segue.00:50:02.730 --> 00:50:04.809


Um here's the game.00:50:05.129 --> 00:50:16.169


Um, so this game basically what I do with artists is I do a lot of research and I create trivia games based off of your life.00:50:16.969 --> 00:50:23.129


Um so this is gonna be for you and Taylor to play because unfortunately I know the answers.00:50:24.089 --> 00:50:26.089


Okay, so here's the thing.00:50:26.329 --> 00:50:32.009


One thing you have to know about me is I'm really bad at these games because something I don't do is research.00:50:32.409 --> 00:50:33.849


So I'm just putting that out there.00:50:34.009 --> 00:50:36.250


I'm here for a good time, not a long time, you know?00:50:36.969 --> 00:50:39.369


Um so best of luck to us.00:50:39.449 --> 00:50:42.649


I'm sure Scott is going to come out on top, and that is great.00:50:42.969 --> 00:50:59.769


Well, it is officially time, everybody, for whose musician is it, anyways, where we talk about trivia with our artists?00:51:00.009 --> 00:51:02.730


Um, so it's gonna go in order.00:51:02.809 --> 00:51:07.849


We're gonna let Scott go first and then you, Taylor, and I will keep a tally of points.00:51:07.929 --> 00:51:09.289


Um I can't read.00:51:09.529 --> 00:51:10.089


That's okay.00:51:10.169 --> 00:51:11.049


I'll read it to you.00:51:11.609 --> 00:51:13.049


Um you can't read.00:51:13.929 --> 00:51:16.489


Scott, this question is for you, sir.00:51:16.969 --> 00:51:26.730


Which US city is most associated with one of the longest running independent rock success stories of the 1990s?00:51:26.969 --> 00:51:30.009


Well, I've been guessing it would have to be Seattle, right?00:51:30.809 --> 00:51:34.089


Ooh, Seattle would be a great guess.00:51:34.489 --> 00:51:38.009


No, no, no.00:51:38.250 --> 00:51:42.409


Unfortunately, the answer on this one is Pittsburgh.00:51:43.369 --> 00:51:44.329


Oh, okay.00:51:44.489 --> 00:51:48.730


Well, we certainly had a great run in the 90s.00:51:48.809 --> 00:51:54.089


I won't disagree with that, but uh I don't know if I'm gonna go on Allison Chains.00:51:55.049 --> 00:51:57.210


Uh that's fair, that's fair.00:51:58.250 --> 00:52:01.849


See, I wanted to say Pittsburgh, but then I was like, that's too easy.00:52:02.089 --> 00:52:02.489


Yeah.00:52:02.730 --> 00:52:21.289


Now at the time, um Rusted Root broke wide open and and Gathering Field did great, and Brownie Mary and the Clarks, and there were there were a lot of uh uh major label releases and and certainly a great thriving uh original music scene in Pennsylvania.00:52:21.529 --> 00:52:23.449


That was I call them the roaring nineties.00:52:23.529 --> 00:52:29.289


I mean, especially from 93, 94, uh up through the rest of the decade.00:52:29.369 --> 00:52:32.489


It was some of the some of my favorite memories.00:52:32.569 --> 00:52:43.210


I mean, we did big shows uh '96, the summer '96 out at Starlake, uh, us and Brownie Mary and Gathering Field and a bunch of other bands.00:52:43.609 --> 00:52:51.769


Um did this local music festival, and we thought, oh, we'll get three, four thousand people, and ended up getting uh 17,000 people.00:52:51.849 --> 00:52:53.129


It was just it was crazy.00:52:53.289 --> 00:52:57.529


And it was at that point, we were like, wow, there's a real scene in this town right now.00:52:57.849 --> 00:53:01.529


Yeah, the Pittsburgh scene is still alive and well, too.00:53:01.609 --> 00:53:14.649


That's that's the crazy part, is that that town like solidified music from I would say like the 80s through like 2007, 2008.00:53:15.210 --> 00:53:21.129


And that scene has just stayed to that level for through the rest of this decade.00:53:22.409 --> 00:53:25.529


Stage AE, I think, is a big spot.00:53:26.569 --> 00:53:27.609


That's a great venue.00:53:27.689 --> 00:53:29.529


It's it's one of our favorite places to play.00:53:29.609 --> 00:53:35.929


Uh, the outdoor venue, particularly, is is just no place like it on a on a beautiful summer evening.00:53:37.129 --> 00:53:39.609


Um, Taylor, this next one is for you.00:53:39.849 --> 00:53:40.730


Oh no.00:53:41.369 --> 00:53:43.769


I don't know geography, I don't know history.00:53:44.089 --> 00:53:44.969


That's okay.00:53:45.289 --> 00:53:47.609


Before streaming, and this one's multiple choice.00:53:47.769 --> 00:53:55.849


Before streaming, what was the most important way for a regional band to build a loyal following in the 90s?00:53:56.089 --> 00:53:59.609


Your choices are a lot of choices.00:53:59.849 --> 00:54:01.449


Yeah, it's A through D.00:54:01.609 --> 00:54:15.210


You've got A radio countdown, B touring relentlessly, C MTV rotations, or D, major label signings.00:54:16.569 --> 00:54:21.529


What's crazy is my answer is not any of those, so now I don't know.00:54:22.169 --> 00:54:26.730


My answer was just standing on the street and handing out CDs and hoping for the best.00:54:27.129 --> 00:54:27.769


You know what I mean?00:54:27.929 --> 00:54:29.369


Like day in and day out.00:54:29.689 --> 00:54:31.449


Um, I'm so sorry.00:54:31.609 --> 00:54:32.889


What was A again?00:54:33.210 --> 00:54:34.329


Yeah, no worries.00:54:34.730 --> 00:54:37.529


A is radio countdown shows.00:54:37.769 --> 00:54:46.730


Okay, B is touring relentlessly, C T V rotations, or D, major label signings.00:54:47.210 --> 00:54:51.129


I want to go I want to go touring relentlessly.00:54:51.929 --> 00:54:56.730


It is in fact B touring relentlessly during the 90s.00:54:56.809 --> 00:54:59.129


That did provide the Scott, thank you.00:54:59.529 --> 00:55:06.649


The most uh loyal fan bases before streaming.00:55:08.329 --> 00:55:12.409


Um so why didn't Scott get an A through D?00:55:13.129 --> 00:55:15.449


Uh that question just didn't have one.00:55:17.609 --> 00:55:20.169


Um Scott, this one is for user.00:55:20.649 --> 00:55:28.489


What genre dominated alternative radio in the mid to late 90s alongside post grunge?00:55:29.049 --> 00:55:31.449


You do have multiple choice on this one.00:55:31.849 --> 00:55:32.889


Okay, go ahead.00:55:33.210 --> 00:55:43.049


A Brit pop, B, Indie Rock, C, New Metal, or D pop punk.00:55:45.529 --> 00:55:46.809


Late nineties.00:55:48.250 --> 00:55:49.609


Can you give me those again?00:55:50.009 --> 00:55:51.049


Absolutely.00:55:51.289 --> 00:56:03.129


Uh that would be A Brit Pop, B Indie Rock, C New Metal, or D pop punk.00:56:05.289 --> 00:56:05.609


Man.00:56:07.049 --> 00:56:08.649


I don't think it's pop punk.00:56:08.809 --> 00:56:14.329


I think that kind of, although Green Day was around then, I think that got a little more popular a little later on.00:56:14.569 --> 00:56:22.009


It can kind of almost be, you know, I don't know enough new metal to really comment on when that was popular.00:56:22.089 --> 00:56:28.809


I mean, I guess it was around the same time, late 90s, like lint biscuit and and corn and stuff like that.00:56:29.769 --> 00:56:35.369


Um you know, and I think it's uh in indie rock.00:56:36.250 --> 00:56:39.129


Um and and the so what was the very first one?00:56:39.210 --> 00:56:41.049


I'm gonna go with the I'm gonna go with A.00:56:41.689 --> 00:56:43.449


A Brit Pop.00:56:44.169 --> 00:56:55.289


Um, you know, Oasis was really big and and um that's kind of my that's kind of my that's kind of my favorite.00:56:55.369 --> 00:56:57.609


So maybe it's just because that's what I was listening to.00:56:57.769 --> 00:57:06.809


And you know what else was really popular in the late night mid to late 90s was like uh you know hip hop, gangster rap too was still still going really strong.00:57:06.969 --> 00:57:07.929


I mean, that was Dr.00:57:08.089 --> 00:57:13.129


Stray and Snoop and Tupac and Biggie, and that was huge then.00:57:13.769 --> 00:57:18.409


Well, this question is relating to alternative radio, so those alternative.00:57:21.129 --> 00:57:26.409


Um I'll say Brit pop.00:57:27.369 --> 00:57:29.769


The answer is a Brit pop.00:57:30.250 --> 00:57:31.769


All right, all right.00:57:32.329 --> 00:57:36.489


I think there was pulp and blur and all those one name bands, Oasis.00:57:37.369 --> 00:57:40.329


Oasis kind of led the revolution on that one.00:57:40.489 --> 00:57:43.849


Uh Blur was uh statistically second.00:57:44.009 --> 00:57:52.809


Um pulp was also on this list, and then um a band called the Manic Street Preachers.00:57:53.369 --> 00:57:54.569


I remember that band.00:57:55.129 --> 00:57:55.769


Yeah.00:57:56.250 --> 00:57:59.449


Um Taylor, this next one is for you.00:57:59.689 --> 00:58:01.769


Can you guys hear the dogs barking?00:58:02.089 --> 00:58:02.889


Uh no.00:58:03.289 --> 00:58:03.929


Oh, cool.00:58:04.089 --> 00:58:05.369


Okay, okay, I'm ready.00:58:05.609 --> 00:58:06.649


Hey, hold on one second.00:58:06.730 --> 00:58:08.489


Hey Grace, Grace.00:58:08.730 --> 00:58:09.529


Uh, never mind.00:58:09.609 --> 00:58:11.289


I gotta figure out where Finley is.00:58:11.609 --> 00:58:13.449


Speaking of dogs, Finley is missing.00:58:14.250 --> 00:58:15.289


Yeah, give me one second.00:58:15.529 --> 00:58:15.849


Sure.00:58:16.009 --> 00:58:16.969


Yeah, stand by, stand by.00:58:17.210 --> 00:58:18.569


He was in here and then she left.00:58:18.649 --> 00:58:19.449


We're not gonna be bad.00:58:19.609 --> 00:58:21.289


We can't let Finlay be alone.00:58:22.329 --> 00:58:24.009


So, how's everyone's day going?00:58:25.129 --> 00:58:26.250


Fantastic.00:58:26.569 --> 00:58:27.289


Mine too.00:58:27.529 --> 00:58:28.969


I'm chilling.00:58:29.849 --> 00:58:32.489


I picked all the skin off my fingers though.00:58:34.329 --> 00:58:36.250


Sorry, should I not put that on the internet?00:58:36.649 --> 00:58:38.169


That's a stress factor.00:58:38.489 --> 00:58:42.969


It really is, and now my finger hurts really, really bad, and I'm just kind of fighting through it.00:58:43.210 --> 00:58:45.289


Um, because it's like picked raw.00:58:45.689 --> 00:58:47.129


And I like broke my nail.00:58:47.210 --> 00:58:48.089


It's kind of a whole thing.00:58:48.169 --> 00:58:49.529


My fingers are a wreck right now.00:58:49.849 --> 00:58:53.289


Man, with my new job though, I can get my nails done.00:58:53.529 --> 00:58:56.250


Oh my gosh, we haven't told the podcast, guys.00:58:56.409 --> 00:58:59.689


If you're still listening, Taylor got a new job.00:59:04.009 --> 00:59:04.569


Finley.00:59:05.049 --> 00:59:05.689


Finley.00:59:06.250 --> 00:59:07.210


Okay, there we go.00:59:09.369 --> 00:59:10.169


Oh, of course.00:59:10.329 --> 00:59:11.449


No, no, I don't mind.00:59:12.009 --> 00:59:14.009


I got them entertained, don't worry.00:59:14.250 --> 00:59:14.489


Okay.00:59:15.449 --> 00:59:17.289


Uh Taylor, this one is for you.00:59:17.449 --> 00:59:26.089


Um which factor most helped regional bands survive without major label support during the 90s?00:59:26.409 --> 00:59:37.289


Um, a merchandise sales, b strong local venues, c word of mouth, or D, all of the above.00:59:38.569 --> 00:59:40.169


That feels like a trick question.00:59:40.329 --> 00:59:49.529


That feels like a trick, and I don't like tricks, but I am going to say it's either the venue one, but I'm gonna go D all of the above.00:59:50.329 --> 00:59:52.409


It is D all of the above.00:59:52.730 --> 00:59:53.609


Let's go.00:59:53.929 --> 00:59:54.569


Let's go.00:59:54.889 --> 00:59:57.689


Right before you said all the above, I was like, oh, it's all those things.00:59:57.929 --> 01:00:00.809


It's all that's yeah.01:00:00.969 --> 01:00:03.369


Um there it has to be all of the above, right?01:00:03.529 --> 01:00:03.769


Yeah.01:00:04.009 --> 01:00:12.569


Well Scott, what was a a venue early in your career that kind of stood out as like uh, oh, we we love this place.01:00:13.369 --> 01:00:15.049


Uh it was called the Decade.01:00:15.129 --> 01:00:19.210


It was in Oakland, in the Oakland neighborhood of Pittsburgh, where the University of Pittsburgh is.01:00:19.289 --> 01:00:27.049


So, you know, around a lot of college students and uh a really famous uh rock and roll bar, um Spring.01:00:27.609 --> 01:00:35.289


Scene, Stevie Ray Vaughn, the police, um uh you two, um, just you know, huge acts.01:00:36.089 --> 01:00:40.169


Played their Bon Jovi before they were really, really big.01:00:40.569 --> 01:00:42.489


And so it's kind of legendary.01:00:42.649 --> 01:00:45.529


And we started playing there in probably '88.01:00:46.009 --> 01:00:49.529


Um, so we you know, late 80s, early 90s.01:00:49.689 --> 01:00:51.529


Um, that was the spot.01:00:51.689 --> 01:01:05.689


And then there was another club in in North Oakland called uh Graffiti, which was more of a showcase, more like 600 people and bigger room, but you know, it wasn't the the great bar vibe, um, but still a great place.01:01:05.769 --> 01:01:09.769


And and a lot of bands in Pittsburgh played either or, or you couldn't play both.01:01:09.849 --> 01:01:10.809


And we're like, why?01:01:10.889 --> 01:01:15.369


Because the owners don't want bands you know cross-pollinating with the people.01:01:16.009 --> 01:01:17.769


That's that's silly.01:01:18.009 --> 01:01:24.329


And yeah, look, and we just said to the club owner, we'll play a show at the decade to the guy, Tony at graffiti.01:01:24.409 --> 01:01:28.250


If if you don't want to book us, uh, you'll still sell your show out, you know.01:01:28.329 --> 01:01:30.089


If you don't want to book us, then don't book us.01:01:30.250 --> 01:01:31.689


But we're not gonna play this game.01:01:31.849 --> 01:01:35.449


And we said the same thing to Dom at the decades where we're gonna play a graffiti.01:01:35.769 --> 01:01:49.369


And and and finally they were just like, Yeah, and once they realized uh playing in one venue uh and then a couple months later playing in the other one and still doing well in both, they didn't they didn't care as long as they're making their money, it didn't happen.01:01:49.609 --> 01:01:49.769


Right.01:01:50.250 --> 01:01:55.529


The decade was was the really the the proving ground for the first couple years of the band in Pittsburgh.01:01:55.689 --> 01:02:12.889


That's where we we really cut our teeth, um, playing long sets, you know, three to four hours, playing from 10 to 10, you know, taking a break, and drinking and smoking, and just partying, young, early 20s, um having a ball.01:02:13.689 --> 01:02:28.169


I I yeah, I feel like you know that you've kind of hit success because when when I used to play out, like doing those three hour sets as a solo guy is the worst.01:02:28.569 --> 01:02:34.169


But I feel like you know you're getting success when you're like, oh, we only play an hour.01:02:35.929 --> 01:02:39.929


Yeah, the shorter your set gets, the more, the more successful you are.01:02:40.250 --> 01:02:46.250


The higher up the rope you're yeah, those three hour nights were rough, man.01:02:46.409 --> 01:02:51.289


Yeah, we played long band sets, and uh, but but that was good.01:02:51.369 --> 01:02:57.849


I mean, that's you you got you get good um just playing all you know all night and you do it every weekend, yeah.01:02:57.929 --> 01:03:04.329


And then you start playing other places during the week and quit your day jobs, and ball starts rolling down the hill.01:03:04.649 --> 01:03:12.889


I I remember like being at uh uh a little place in East Liverpool, Ohio, playing a set, and I was like two hours in.01:03:13.049 --> 01:03:18.009


And I said, Well, does anybody want to hear Hotel California again?01:03:18.969 --> 01:03:21.529


I was like, I I've got nothing left.01:03:22.730 --> 01:03:24.009


I have no other material.01:03:25.129 --> 01:03:26.250


I'll done.01:03:27.449 --> 01:03:30.809


All right, so this next one is for you, Scott.01:03:31.529 --> 01:03:41.449


Admittedly, I I tried to give Taylor a little bit of uh the easier ones, um, just because she doesn't know these answers much.01:03:41.609 --> 01:03:43.689


Um I'm just a baby, guys.01:03:44.569 --> 01:03:50.009


Uh in the 90s, what format helped albums feel more like an event?01:03:50.169 --> 01:04:01.129


Uh, this would have been during not vinyl, obviously, but uh they they used to hold events that uh kind of helped album sales.01:04:01.449 --> 01:04:02.009


Yeah, yeah.01:04:02.169 --> 01:04:04.889


Well, we used to do uh record store signings.01:04:05.049 --> 01:04:12.169


We we'd go to every record store uh in person and you know just sign C at that time CDs.01:04:12.409 --> 01:04:19.769


Yeah, 90s were the the golden age of so that's the I mean that's the format that got big in the 90s.01:04:19.849 --> 01:04:37.289


I mean, we we released uh our first album was 88 and it came out on vinyl and cassette, and then the second album came out in 91 on CD and cassette, and then it was CDs um, you know, up through 2000, late 2000s.01:04:39.210 --> 01:04:41.609


That that yeah, that is the answer.01:04:41.689 --> 01:04:48.329


Uh it is CD CD signings or or band signings, CD slash band signings.01:04:48.730 --> 01:04:54.169


We would go to record stores and you would play a couple songs, you'd bring some acoustic guitars and you play a couple songs.01:04:54.969 --> 01:04:55.849


Really, I didn't know that.01:04:56.089 --> 01:04:59.049


Oh, yeah, well, we did, and I I think a lot of bands did.01:04:59.129 --> 01:05:01.129


I mean, that was just like you know, why wouldn't you?01:05:01.210 --> 01:05:02.250


You're you're there.01:05:02.489 --> 01:05:06.169


Um, might as well play just a handful, you know, three or four songs.01:05:06.329 --> 01:05:26.809


It wasn't a lot, but um, yeah, we did one at uh it was like a Borders bookstore in Northway Mall in 2002 or something when our uh another Happy Ending album came out, and it was just it was huge, and there were people everywhere, and there were free, so everybody came and there was an absolutely no room.01:05:27.049 --> 01:05:34.169


People were outside the windows and along out in the road, and it was just a it's kind of a disaster.01:05:34.569 --> 01:05:49.289


Um but most of them are manageable, but that one started out as being like super packed, but yeah, that that was every album, multiple record stores for a week or two after the release.01:05:49.529 --> 01:05:52.649


We would be somewhere promoting now.01:05:53.210 --> 01:05:56.009


Now, did you ever attend as like a fan?01:05:56.329 --> 01:06:00.409


I know I can't ever recall going to a record store to see somebody now.01:06:01.369 --> 01:06:10.569


I I've never been to a record store to see a person, but as a vinyl collector, I do attend album release parties for vinyl.01:06:10.889 --> 01:06:12.809


Oh nice, yeah.01:06:12.889 --> 01:06:18.489


I I actually you guys put uh between here, uh between hold on.01:06:18.649 --> 01:06:25.289


I I always mess this title up between now and then on vinyl a couple of years ago.01:06:25.609 --> 01:06:28.250


And that's that's like my golden goose right now.01:06:28.409 --> 01:06:30.009


I got I gotta find those.01:06:30.969 --> 01:06:33.449


You guys only did them in person, right?01:06:33.529 --> 01:06:39.289


And and I don't think we have any more of the uh the first between now and then we did two of them.01:06:39.529 --> 01:06:44.329


Yeah, still have some vinyl in the second one left, but I think all the other ones are gone.01:06:44.569 --> 01:06:57.609


Vinyl's expensive to to produce and um or to manufacture, and uh you know, you have to yeah, you really have to order X amount, and I don't need to have five thousand.01:06:57.769 --> 01:07:03.929


We we might have gone through five hundred or a thousand um albums, but yeah, uh vinyl's great.01:07:04.009 --> 01:07:15.289


I've got I still have all mine from when I was a kid, and then Rob, our guitar player, he he gave me all of his at one point because he just had nowhere to put it and kept you know having to transport.01:07:15.369 --> 01:07:18.250


He's like, here man, just just take my art once you want.01:07:19.369 --> 01:07:20.089


That was awesome.01:07:20.329 --> 01:07:22.089


My collection like doubled.01:07:22.329 --> 01:07:22.889


Yeah.01:07:23.129 --> 01:07:25.769


Suddenly I had every Van Halen album.01:07:28.089 --> 01:07:29.849


I uh I have a fun album.01:07:30.169 --> 01:07:32.730


I had one or two prior, but now I had all of them.01:07:33.049 --> 01:07:34.009


All of them.01:07:34.889 --> 01:07:38.569


Fun fact about it oh sorry, go ahead.01:07:39.449 --> 01:07:51.210


I'm just reminiscing now, and I'm like, oh I'll like great 70s Z top albums like uh um The Guelo and all those given to you.01:07:52.009 --> 01:07:53.689


Oh man, they had great taste in music.01:07:53.769 --> 01:07:59.049


I'm sure that I know there's a there's probably at least a couple Aussie Osborne albums in there.01:08:00.329 --> 01:08:02.409


Probably through some great phases.01:08:02.569 --> 01:08:04.089


Um, I like that stuff too.01:08:04.169 --> 01:08:08.969


I was big on Crazy Train, but I never, you know, I never bought an Aussie solo album.01:08:10.009 --> 01:08:11.609


Black Sabbath kind of guy growing up.01:08:12.969 --> 01:08:15.609


Come to appreciate that stuff later in life.01:08:17.130 --> 01:08:20.329


Um fun fact about CD signings.01:08:20.489 --> 01:08:27.210


My first actually, my first signed CD, and I think my only signed CD happened at your show.01:08:27.529 --> 01:08:28.810


Yeah, it's rewind.01:08:29.210 --> 01:08:29.609


Yeah.01:08:29.770 --> 01:08:34.569


And it was um my first, it was my birthday, my 13th birthday.01:08:34.649 --> 01:08:36.890


Um I had just had knee surgery, so we were up front.01:08:36.970 --> 01:08:38.010


I was in a wheelchair.01:08:38.170 --> 01:08:40.730


Um, and it was a little family event at a bar.01:08:40.970 --> 01:08:44.409


And I believe it was the Ohio weather band opened.01:08:45.050 --> 01:08:45.529


Opened.01:08:45.769 --> 01:08:48.010


And they signed their CD for me.01:08:48.090 --> 01:08:49.929


It was was it their release party?01:08:50.250 --> 01:08:50.889


No, no.01:08:50.970 --> 01:08:52.409


Um it was the Clark show.01:08:52.489 --> 01:08:59.609


They opened, they had won the ability from from something, some contest they did to open for the Clarks.01:08:59.769 --> 01:09:00.010


Yeah.01:09:00.250 --> 01:09:06.489


And and they wrote me a little happy birthday note, and my it's my first ever signed CD.01:09:06.569 --> 01:09:08.569


And you guys told me happy birthday on stage.01:09:08.809 --> 01:09:11.449


That was actually that's the greatest moment of my life.01:09:11.689 --> 01:09:12.409


We love to do that.01:09:12.569 --> 01:09:13.130


It was really good.01:09:13.449 --> 01:09:16.729


And then uh that was I bought your your rewind album.01:09:17.050 --> 01:09:18.010


My rewind album.01:09:18.090 --> 01:09:19.130


Yeah, yeah.01:09:19.689 --> 01:09:21.050


Oh, 10 out of 10.01:09:21.130 --> 01:09:21.529


Anywho.01:09:21.849 --> 01:09:26.970


Rewind, isn't that the that's the album that you did the cover of uh Paint It Black, right?01:09:27.210 --> 01:09:27.849


Yes.01:09:28.250 --> 01:09:29.609


Fantastic cover.01:09:29.929 --> 01:09:43.769


All covers from stuff that we we played when we were just starting out, when we were playing three and a half hours a night, and we had to fill the set out with songs from the 70s and 90s.01:09:47.929 --> 01:09:50.729


Oh Taylor, this one is for you.01:09:50.889 --> 01:10:01.529


Which activity is which activity is commonly pursued by musicians who enjoy shaping the next generation of artists outside of touring and recording?01:10:04.409 --> 01:10:06.889


Standby and it's not multiple choice.01:10:06.970 --> 01:10:08.170


I just hope for the best.01:10:08.489 --> 01:10:10.329


Uh yeah, this one is not multiple choice.01:10:10.569 --> 01:10:11.130


Oh, cool.01:10:11.289 --> 01:10:12.010


I can read.01:10:12.329 --> 01:10:12.649


Okay.01:10:12.970 --> 01:10:18.489


Um the question itself kind of gives it to you.01:10:20.649 --> 01:10:21.849


I don't know.01:10:22.889 --> 01:10:31.130


Interactivity is commonly pursued by musicians who enjoy shaping the next generation of artists outside of touring and recording.01:10:33.769 --> 01:10:35.210


Can I throw it to Scott?01:10:35.449 --> 01:10:36.569


I literally don't know.01:10:38.889 --> 01:10:41.369


I don't even know if I have the answer to that.01:10:42.010 --> 01:10:44.889


What do you well, we can't both not have the answer.01:10:44.970 --> 01:10:46.170


You're the musician.01:10:47.449 --> 01:10:53.449


Well, I you know, commonly pursued by musicians now.01:10:54.090 --> 01:11:04.090


Um I don't know, you know, maybe uh you you know, guitar tutorials or YouTube stuff, putting things on YouTube.01:11:04.409 --> 01:11:04.809


I don't know.01:11:04.889 --> 01:11:05.449


What what is it?01:11:05.529 --> 01:11:06.090


I'm I'm curious.01:11:08.090 --> 01:11:10.170


Well, Scott, you you're basically there.01:11:10.250 --> 01:11:13.609


The the answer is teaching, the greatest gift that you can give to the next generation.01:11:14.329 --> 01:11:18.569


Oh there was no way I was gonna get that.01:11:18.970 --> 01:11:23.050


So I I actually had to to Google this uh to to get this question.01:11:23.210 --> 01:11:33.769


So basically, the statistic is 78% of artists, recording artists today also tutor.01:11:34.329 --> 01:11:35.929


Wow, that's a lot, that's a big number.01:11:36.010 --> 01:11:37.369


I didn't think it would be that high.01:11:39.769 --> 01:11:43.769


You also enjoy teaching musicians, right?01:11:44.489 --> 01:11:45.929


I don't do it formally.01:11:46.090 --> 01:11:56.170


I'm happy to jam with people and play with people and advise and collaborate and all that stuff, but uh I've never taught a lesson.01:11:56.489 --> 01:11:57.369


Oh, really?01:11:57.849 --> 01:11:58.649


No, no.01:11:59.130 --> 01:12:09.449


My daughters, um, you know, they all sing, and there are times when I'm sure they're learning stuff from me, but it's never very it's never a conscious do this.01:12:09.689 --> 01:12:13.609


Um, not that I couldn't do that, I just it just never happened.01:12:13.929 --> 01:12:14.409


Huh.01:12:14.889 --> 01:12:18.170


Yeah, I thought that was a wild fact as well.01:12:18.649 --> 01:12:19.529


78%.01:12:20.170 --> 01:12:20.889


That's a lot.01:12:21.130 --> 01:12:25.529


Well, I I can tell you this, like I'm not a good enough guitar player to really give guitar lessons.01:12:25.609 --> 01:12:36.409


I mean, I could I could you know help somebody out and get them started and show them concords and stuff, but I I don't have the the guitar uh talent to to be a guitar teacher.01:12:36.649 --> 01:12:45.609


Um and vocally uh I would leave that up to the the sort of the experts, the people who are are sort of trained vocalists.01:12:45.769 --> 01:12:55.210


Like it's very difficult for me to try to advise somebody on um vocal technique or or how to because we're also different.01:12:55.289 --> 01:13:09.130


And now I know what works for me, and I could you know relay that information, but it would be very difficult for me to um uh hold a formal lesson in with anyone or or singing.01:13:09.929 --> 01:13:12.970


Speaking of easy when you're naturally blessed.01:13:13.609 --> 01:13:15.130


I I I thank you.01:13:15.289 --> 01:13:19.849


I I just I love what I do and and I've gotten better at it over the years.01:13:20.010 --> 01:13:26.010


I mean it's just it's it's a t you have to have some sort of innate ability, you have to have some musicality.01:13:27.289 --> 01:13:29.929


But um, you know, singing can be learned.01:13:30.170 --> 01:13:36.010


And uh I've always had an ability to um to sing, but I I've seen way better now than I used to.01:13:36.250 --> 01:13:39.369


I I know that I know the spirituality of it.01:13:39.529 --> 01:13:46.170


Um there's a lot that goes into it that you sort of discover over many one of the benefits of doing it a long time.01:13:46.250 --> 01:13:48.809


You um you just get good at it.01:13:49.929 --> 01:13:54.170


Uh speaking of your daughters, uh correct me if I'm wrong.01:13:54.250 --> 01:14:04.809


Um, on your newer EP, the song Here and Now, that was written not for your daughter per se, but like around the time that your daughter was born, right?01:14:05.130 --> 01:14:08.569


Yes, that was that was definitely a love letter to my family.01:14:08.729 --> 01:14:20.970


Uh my kids at the time I was uh we had two very young daughters, probably you know, three years old, one year old, and and we're expecting, you know, at least planning for one more.01:14:21.050 --> 01:14:29.689


And and uh had just moved back to Pittsburgh from Dallas, Texas, and uh was happy to be back in western Pennsylvania.01:14:30.010 --> 01:14:36.649


Um and just uh yeah, just wrote a a very open sort of love letter to my family.01:14:36.729 --> 01:14:38.010


I was very happy at the time.01:14:38.170 --> 01:14:46.970


And um one of my favorites came out with the on that aforementioned uh EP called Three the Hard Way.01:14:47.050 --> 01:14:50.329


And and there's a really cool video uh with that.01:14:50.409 --> 01:15:00.569


If you if anybody's interested on my website, scopplayc.com, you can you can find your way around um to to that material, but love that song, love that video.01:15:02.489 --> 01:15:06.329


So this next one, I believe, is for you, Scott.01:15:06.809 --> 01:15:18.970


Um, which band is often cited as a major influence on the Heartland roots-leaning alternative rock artists from the 1990s.01:15:19.609 --> 01:15:25.689


The nineties, Heartland and Roots-leaning alternative rock artists.01:15:27.689 --> 01:15:30.649


Oh, cited as a major influence.01:15:32.970 --> 01:15:42.729


Oh a major influence on roots leaning alternative rock in the nineties.01:15:46.329 --> 01:15:49.449


Man, which band?01:15:51.050 --> 01:15:53.369


Oh man, the Eagles.01:15:54.329 --> 01:15:57.769


Oh, that that's a fantastic guess.01:15:58.090 --> 01:16:01.769


Um but no, not the Eagles.01:16:02.809 --> 01:16:05.369


Uh Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.01:16:05.609 --> 01:16:06.489


Yeah, I could see.01:16:06.970 --> 01:16:08.010


Yeah, yeah.01:16:08.489 --> 01:16:09.289


Love Tom Petty.01:16:09.769 --> 01:16:10.809


Heartland threw me.01:16:10.889 --> 01:16:15.210


Like I don't I might initially I was like, well, John Mellencamp.01:16:16.250 --> 01:16:21.289


Yeah, John Mellencamp, Springsteen, and Springsteen to a certain degree.01:16:21.529 --> 01:16:24.649


Um, but yeah, I I I totally agree with that.01:16:24.809 --> 01:16:27.449


Tom influenced a lot of people, including me.01:16:27.929 --> 01:16:31.210


Yeah, uh you're a pretty big Tom Petty fan, right?01:16:31.289 --> 01:16:34.090


You you kind of love like a lot of that classic rock.01:16:34.409 --> 01:16:37.769


Well, for sure, that was what I cut my teeth on as a kid growing up.01:16:37.929 --> 01:16:48.250


Uh Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers were was my first uh concert, my first live music experience, 1980, uh Stanley Theater in Pittsburgh, damn the Torpedoes tour.01:16:48.329 --> 01:16:49.609


I was probably 15.01:16:50.010 --> 01:16:53.050


And that album was just so good and so visceral.01:16:53.130 --> 01:16:57.609


And their their live show by that point was so on point.01:16:57.769 --> 01:17:14.569


And he was still, you know, still had a lot of vim and vigor and energy and and and sort of anger, and and he just they they were they were the thing for me at that point in my life, like 19 late 70s, early 80s.01:17:14.889 --> 01:17:17.369


Do you have a favorite Tom Petty song?01:17:17.689 --> 01:17:38.409


Um, yeah, I mean I so many of them to try to pick one is is a little bit of a challenge, but it would probably be it would probably be something like uh Shadow of a Doubt, a complex kid from from like a radio single or anything, but it's just such a great straight-ahead rock and roll.01:17:39.130 --> 01:17:41.609


Mine's um Learning to Fly.01:17:41.769 --> 01:17:43.210


I've always loved that song.01:17:44.649 --> 01:17:50.489


I mean Wildflowers, I mean there's just so I mean it's just it's crazy.01:17:50.649 --> 01:17:56.409


And and breakdown and you know the classics and so much good stuff.01:17:56.649 --> 01:17:57.210


Miss Tom.01:17:57.769 --> 01:18:06.250


Oh, um uh You Don't Know How It Feels is another yeah that whole album is is stellar, yeah.01:18:06.649 --> 01:18:07.130


Pardon me.01:18:10.329 --> 01:18:12.649


I think I only know one Tom Petty song.01:18:12.970 --> 01:18:17.529


Freak Fallin' Now Wam, Freak Fallin' Now Wam.01:18:17.849 --> 01:18:18.250


Thank you.01:18:18.409 --> 01:18:19.529


Okay, sorry.01:18:19.769 --> 01:18:20.809


Oh, you're fine.01:18:21.050 --> 01:18:22.329


Just checking on the dogs.01:18:22.409 --> 01:18:24.090


It's got a little too quiet.01:18:25.210 --> 01:18:27.769


Um that's a dangerous game to play with dogs.01:18:28.569 --> 01:18:30.329


You have to know what they're doing at all times.01:18:30.649 --> 01:18:33.289


Uh yeah, yeah, with with Finley for sure.01:18:33.449 --> 01:18:35.050


Lulu's a baby.01:18:35.369 --> 01:18:40.170


Lulu, you could walk out of the house and be gone for six hours and come back, and she's just chilling on the couch.01:18:40.250 --> 01:18:43.769


But Lulu, um, shit would be destroyed.01:18:45.369 --> 01:18:47.769


Uh Taylor, this one is for you.01:18:47.929 --> 01:18:50.090


Uh I don't know what a World Series is.01:18:50.329 --> 01:18:52.409


Okay, we're gonna pass this one over to Scott.01:18:53.849 --> 01:18:59.849


Well, that's that that was that's that's about as easy a one for me.01:19:00.010 --> 01:19:02.649


Uh yeah, I know you're a big sports guy.01:19:02.970 --> 01:19:06.729


Well, and and the Pittsburgh Pirates won the 1971 World Series.01:19:06.809 --> 01:19:11.210


That iconic picture of Steve Blast uh jumping in the air.01:19:11.449 --> 01:19:16.649


You know, just uh I was I was let's see, I was six years old at the time.01:19:17.369 --> 01:19:20.409


Um going on seven.01:19:20.729 --> 01:19:22.010


Uh I played baseball.01:19:22.090 --> 01:19:30.409


I played like at that age, it's called we used to call it instructional league and the minor leagues and then main major league by the time you're 12 years old.01:19:30.489 --> 01:19:34.809


So baseball was everything to me um at that age.01:19:35.050 --> 01:19:37.449


Yeah, that was the that was my sport.01:19:38.010 --> 01:19:44.090


And um the the 71 World Series was the first World Series to have uh night game.01:19:44.250 --> 01:19:45.289


I don't know if they had one.01:19:45.609 --> 01:19:47.130


They might have there might have been two.01:19:47.289 --> 01:19:54.329


It was the first time I night uh ever played a game at night in the world, and it's now it seems crazy to think about that, but they were all day games.01:19:54.489 --> 01:20:04.970


And I was in first grade at Southside Elementary School, and I would run home uh from school at 3:30 to catch the last couple innings, you know?01:20:05.210 --> 01:20:05.449


Yeah.01:20:14.489 --> 01:20:17.449


I mean, I could name I literally could name the starting line.01:20:19.929 --> 01:20:25.769


Um so I when I lived in that area, I worked for Ogden newspapers.01:20:25.849 --> 01:20:26.649


I was the advertising.01:20:27.050 --> 01:20:27.289


Oh, wow.01:20:28.090 --> 01:20:28.729


Yeah.01:20:29.050 --> 01:20:29.449


Yeah.01:20:29.609 --> 01:20:34.010


So I I've I've seen my fair share of pirates games.01:20:34.329 --> 01:20:34.649


Right.01:20:34.809 --> 01:20:35.769


Oh, that's great.01:20:36.250 --> 01:20:38.010


I wish they I hope they get good again.01:20:38.329 --> 01:20:40.010


I'm a little more optimistic this season.01:20:40.329 --> 01:20:40.489


Yeah.01:20:41.449 --> 01:20:42.489


They signed a few bats.01:20:42.649 --> 01:20:43.369


We'll see what happens.01:20:43.609 --> 01:20:43.929


Yeah.01:20:44.170 --> 01:20:50.889


I will say, so I'm I'm a Pirates fan, I'm a Penguins fan, but I am a Dallas Cowboys fan.01:20:51.050 --> 01:20:53.369


I I know we were we were on such a good track.01:20:53.849 --> 01:20:55.689


Yeah, we won't hold against you.01:20:56.090 --> 01:21:14.409


You should I actually went to uh uh uh you know and I I I don't I don't hate the Cowboys like I I sort of dislike some other teams, but when I I lived in Dallas for almost four years and went to uh one of my most memorable experiences was going to see the Steelers play at Cowboys Stadium in Irving at the time.01:21:14.569 --> 01:21:16.970


It was before the the really big new stadium.01:21:17.210 --> 01:21:17.849


Yeah.01:21:18.250 --> 01:21:21.449


And and we won, and it was just a great experience.01:21:21.609 --> 01:21:25.769


My wife and a couple friends from Pittsburgh uh that lived down in Austin.01:21:25.929 --> 01:21:27.609


And so uh yeah, yeah.01:21:27.769 --> 01:21:29.769


Uh I'm I'm a huge Steelers fan too.01:21:29.849 --> 01:21:42.489


You know, when they won the first uh Super Bowl, the their first Super Bowl in 74, you know, I was probably about 10 10 or 11 years old, and then they went on that run through my teen years years.01:21:42.809 --> 01:21:46.010


It was just every it seemed like every year the Steelers were winning the Super Bowl.01:21:46.090 --> 01:21:48.170


And how could you not just fall in love with that?01:21:48.250 --> 01:21:50.809


So obviously I became a huge football fan.01:21:50.970 --> 01:21:55.689


And then and then really, now that we're talking about sports, uh, ended up playing basketball.01:21:55.769 --> 01:22:02.329


You know, that became uh played baseball through sort of mid-teens, but then basketball sort of took off.01:22:02.409 --> 01:22:12.170


I was tall, I was really good at it, I could jump, I was pretty fast, had good hands, had a great high school team that I started on and uh loved basketball for many, many years.01:22:12.409 --> 01:22:16.889


Saw the uh ABA team, the Pittsburgh Condors play at the old Civic Arena.01:22:17.130 --> 01:22:17.689


Yeah.01:22:18.250 --> 01:22:20.649


Probably early 70s.01:22:20.970 --> 01:22:24.970


Um so yeah, lots of good, lots of good sports memories.01:22:25.369 --> 01:22:26.489


Yeah, I sports.01:22:26.970 --> 01:22:33.609


I I know Taylor's not super into sports, but I I have a I love it for you guys.01:22:33.849 --> 01:22:38.170


I have a very special place in my heart for sports from that area, you know what I mean?01:22:38.409 --> 01:22:39.369


Yeah, sure.01:22:39.609 --> 01:22:40.729


Especially the penguins.01:22:40.809 --> 01:22:47.050


I I saw a ping uh the penguin game where Sidney Crosby got his tooth knocked out, saw it fly right over the glass, man.01:22:47.210 --> 01:22:48.010


It was crazy.01:22:48.250 --> 01:22:49.289


Oh wow.01:22:49.689 --> 01:22:52.010


Oh, I love the penguins too, man.01:22:52.889 --> 01:22:57.449


So this one is technically for you, Scott, because Taylor passed her question over to you.01:22:57.529 --> 01:22:58.809


So I think Scott's winning.01:23:00.090 --> 01:23:04.170


It's crazy you wouldn't give me a sports game or a sports question.01:23:04.329 --> 01:23:05.050


That's wild.01:23:05.609 --> 01:23:14.569


Um, which Pittsburgh Steelers head coach led the team through the majority of the 90s and guided them to a Super Bowl appearance during the decade?01:23:14.889 --> 01:23:15.849


Bill Carr.01:23:16.489 --> 01:23:17.609


Bill Carr.01:23:19.449 --> 01:23:20.489


Bill Carr.01:23:21.130 --> 01:23:33.849


You know, I I I'm living in Virginia now, and I recently ran into um coach uh uh he went to William and Mary College.01:23:34.010 --> 01:23:35.529


What the heck is his name?01:23:36.010 --> 01:23:37.769


Oh, you mean uh isn't that Tomlin?01:23:37.929 --> 01:23:38.489


Didn't Tomlin go?01:23:38.809 --> 01:23:40.010


Yeah, yeah, yep, Tomlin.01:23:40.329 --> 01:23:41.449


Yeah, yep, yeah.01:23:41.529 --> 01:23:43.609


I recently ran into him uh a few weeks ago.01:23:44.010 --> 01:23:44.649


That's cool.01:23:44.889 --> 01:23:47.849


Yeah, he was having a slice of pizza.01:23:48.090 --> 01:23:50.809


Oh wow, and in just a normal setting, how cool.01:23:52.889 --> 01:23:53.529


I'm sure he is.01:23:53.849 --> 01:23:55.849


He seems like he's he's he's a cool dude.01:23:56.329 --> 01:23:58.090


Yep, yeah, he he was very nice.01:23:58.329 --> 01:24:01.050


I I went over, I didn't ask him to sign anything or anything.01:24:01.130 --> 01:24:07.449


I was just like, hey, just want to let you know I'm from that area, and I really appreciate everything that you do for the Steelers.01:24:08.569 --> 01:24:09.769


Oh, that's cool.01:24:10.090 --> 01:24:14.250


Um, so this one is for you, Taylor.01:24:14.569 --> 01:24:28.889


Which Beatles song opens with a brass band style introduction and serves as the fictional welcome to an anthem of an alter ego band, setting the tone for one of the most influential eras in rock history.01:24:30.250 --> 01:24:34.809


I know it's about I know three Beatles songs.01:24:36.250 --> 01:24:41.529


Um, and this one probably isn't right, but the only one in my head is Here Comes the Sun.01:24:42.889 --> 01:24:46.809


Ooh, that is not that's not even close.01:24:48.489 --> 01:24:51.449


Uh I mean it's relatively close.01:24:53.449 --> 01:24:55.289


I'm trying to think of other ones I know.01:24:55.609 --> 01:24:56.569


Blackbird.01:24:57.369 --> 01:24:57.689


No.01:24:58.489 --> 01:25:00.170


That's such a good song.01:25:00.729 --> 01:25:01.529


I really like that song.01:25:01.849 --> 01:25:02.729


Finley knows that one.01:25:02.809 --> 01:25:03.210


Come here.01:25:04.489 --> 01:25:05.929


Finley, can you sing it for me?01:25:07.609 --> 01:25:08.889


Oh, she's so sweet.01:25:09.050 --> 01:25:09.289


Come here.01:25:09.769 --> 01:25:10.889


Come here, let me see it.01:25:15.449 --> 01:25:17.449


Finley Finley knows the answer to that.01:25:19.289 --> 01:25:20.809


Finley, I'm tapping you in.01:25:21.210 --> 01:25:21.529


Come here.01:25:21.849 --> 01:25:23.050


Come here, come here.01:25:26.010 --> 01:25:28.010


Oh, look at that little face.01:25:30.170 --> 01:25:33.689


We're Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart Club band.01:25:34.649 --> 01:25:37.210


We'd like to take you on again.01:25:37.369 --> 01:25:40.250


Or like to take you to the show.01:25:41.689 --> 01:25:42.729


That's gotta be it, right?01:25:43.210 --> 01:25:44.250


That is absolutely it.01:25:44.329 --> 01:25:46.489


Sergeant Pepper's lonely hearts club end.01:25:46.889 --> 01:25:48.809


I have never heard that song in my life.01:25:49.289 --> 01:25:51.369


Oh, it's such a great song.01:25:52.250 --> 01:25:53.449


Oh, yeah.01:25:54.250 --> 01:25:54.729


Right.01:25:55.050 --> 01:25:57.929


That was the last question, guys.01:25:58.250 --> 01:25:59.529


That was really good, buddy.01:25:59.689 --> 01:26:00.409


Good work.01:26:01.449 --> 01:26:04.649


So I think it's pretty obvious Scott won that one.01:26:04.889 --> 01:26:06.250


Oh, yeah, no, for sure.01:26:06.329 --> 01:26:07.449


And I love that for Scott.01:26:07.929 --> 01:26:10.809


I actually I was going easy on him, to be honest with you.01:26:11.929 --> 01:26:13.689


You know, you were being a good host.01:26:13.929 --> 01:26:15.050


I was being a good host.01:26:15.130 --> 01:26:16.489


I can't win all of them.01:26:16.809 --> 01:26:20.649


So look at that little dog.01:26:20.970 --> 01:26:25.529


Oh man, I'm as soon as the show's over, I'm going to give him my big old great Dan a hug.01:26:26.729 --> 01:26:28.090


You are perfect.01:26:28.970 --> 01:26:29.449


Isn't she?01:26:29.529 --> 01:26:30.010


She's so good.01:26:30.250 --> 01:26:31.449


Her coat is so beautiful.01:26:31.529 --> 01:26:33.130


She's just kind of beautiful.01:26:33.289 --> 01:26:35.769


Oh, she's the prettiest dog I've ever seen.01:26:36.489 --> 01:26:37.609


She's kind of little.01:26:38.250 --> 01:26:39.769


Oh, she's your best friend.01:26:40.329 --> 01:26:41.210


My wife wants a friend.01:26:41.369 --> 01:26:42.329


She's so bad.01:26:42.569 --> 01:26:43.289


Oh, that's Lily.01:26:43.529 --> 01:26:45.210


Lily finally introduced herself.01:26:45.609 --> 01:26:45.849


Lily.01:26:46.250 --> 01:26:46.729


Lily Bird.01:26:47.050 --> 01:26:47.130


Hi.01:26:47.449 --> 01:26:50.010


I was I wanted to ask about you the whole time.01:26:50.489 --> 01:26:51.130


Yeah, yeah.01:26:51.210 --> 01:26:54.889


We have a little bit.01:27:05.929 --> 01:27:09.609


And uh we used to have a bearded dragon, but he's got a cat.01:27:10.489 --> 01:27:12.250


And we used to have a Dalmatian.01:27:14.329 --> 01:27:17.289


He's a beautiful 12-year-old companion.01:27:20.569 --> 01:27:21.289


Oh my god.01:27:24.970 --> 01:27:27.210


Ah, well, I have to go get an animal now.01:27:27.289 --> 01:27:32.250


I don't know what animal it's gonna be, but tomorrow I might be coming home with something I have to take care of.01:27:32.649 --> 01:27:37.050


I really I mean, I I didn't have a lot of animals when I was a kid growing up.01:27:37.210 --> 01:27:41.130


Or when I was, you know, traveling with the band, you just couldn't have a dog.01:27:41.289 --> 01:27:41.529


Yeah.01:27:41.929 --> 01:27:42.250


Right.01:27:42.569 --> 01:27:43.609


Or really even a cat.01:27:43.689 --> 01:27:46.170


It's at a certain point, we were just gone all the time.01:27:46.489 --> 01:27:46.729


Yeah.01:27:47.289 --> 01:27:48.889


Um, but yeah, they're they're great.01:27:49.130 --> 01:27:50.729


Hey guys, this has been fantastic.01:27:52.010 --> 01:27:52.809


Yeah, thank you.01:27:53.369 --> 01:28:00.090


You had some great questions, great history, and certainly knew uh a lot about the songs and and the band.01:28:00.489 --> 01:28:00.970


Thank you.01:28:01.289 --> 01:28:03.210


Yeah, thank you so much for coming on, man.01:28:03.529 --> 01:28:06.250


Is there anything you want to promote before we hop off here?01:28:06.649 --> 01:28:09.449


Uh come to one of my shows, scopblesi.com.01:28:09.529 --> 01:28:13.449


I usually list the shows that I have coming up for the next month or so.01:28:13.769 --> 01:28:15.769


And there's links to social media.01:28:15.849 --> 01:28:19.529


Um, follow me for information and where I'm playing and what I'm doing.01:28:19.609 --> 01:28:25.529


And there's links to the videos and the songs and the albums and streaming and stuff.01:28:25.689 --> 01:28:26.729


So check it out.01:28:26.889 --> 01:28:30.889


Clarksonline.com is the band's website and uh come to a show.01:28:31.050 --> 01:28:31.689


Say hi.01:28:32.010 --> 01:28:32.729


Absolutely.01:28:32.809 --> 01:28:39.529


Yeah, everybody go check out Scott Lacey and check out the Clarks, and truly thank you so much for your time, man.01:28:39.609 --> 01:28:40.250


I really appreciate it.01:28:40.729 --> 01:28:41.050


Thank you.01:28:41.289 --> 01:28:43.050


It really was a dream come true.01:28:43.529 --> 01:28:44.569


Much love to you both.01:28:44.889 --> 01:28:46.729


Have yourself a wonderful night, sir.01:28:46.809 --> 01:28:47.609


Please come back.01:28:47.929 --> 01:28:49.529


We will see you.01:28:49.769 --> 01:28:50.729


See you later.01:28:51.050 --> 01:28:51.689


All right.01:28:53.130 --> 01:28:56.889


That was the Clarks interview, everybody.01:28:57.289 --> 01:28:59.769


It's a long one, it's a good one.01:29:00.649 --> 01:29:03.529


Yeah, that was absolutely incredible.01:29:03.689 --> 01:29:07.050


Sorry, I am going to text Lindsay real quick.01:29:07.210 --> 01:29:08.970


Oh, yes, Harley also has a wife.01:29:09.050 --> 01:29:10.970


I too should text my wife.01:29:13.449 --> 01:29:15.929


Text, text, text, text, text, text, text.01:29:16.489 --> 01:29:19.289


So, as always, do all of the stuff, you know.01:29:19.449 --> 01:29:22.329


Follow, like, subscribe, all of that.01:29:23.210 --> 01:29:24.889


It has been real, everybody.01:29:25.050 --> 01:29:26.889


I gotta get the heck out of here.01:29:27.050 --> 01:29:28.649


Yes, that was awesome.01:29:28.889 --> 01:29:30.090


It's been real.01:29:30.569 --> 01:29:31.369


Peace.01:29:33.130 --> 01:29:36.809


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