Ep 199 Livestream Recap!

Cold Open And Livestream Hello

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I just didn't fucking I fucking love I'm I'm the worst person to have a podcast.

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I can barely Oh my god I lost me what's up everybody welcome to the Hook It Bridge Podcast live stream for episode 199 1999 we have Chris in the comments he is going to be moderating over there for us keeping everything under control hanging out with all you guys he's gonna be talking to you he's gonna be asking questions and and interacting with the fans uh my mother is in there right now our mother our mother is in there Taylor crazy that you just did that and we already have one of our super special guests just hopped on guys super special guest super califragil mystic expialidocious shavar Dante joins the show Shavar how are you sir I'm doing fantastic how are you all we are doing wonderful man it's great to see you awesome it's great to see you too and Taylor weren't here last time I was here it was just it was just me and Shivar was I was I on my deathbed uh there was something going on but it was an episode so fun thing Shavar Taylor never listens to the show because she's on it so your episode was one of the only ones that she actually listened to oh nice she wasn't on it and I told her that she had to listen to it because I told her she would love your music oh that's amazing that's very kind and I you can ask her I do not tell her that for everybody there are certain people that come on the show yeah that I'm like hey this one's not for you buddy I love that I love it keeping a real you know 100 I love it um I'm glad this the timing worked out perfect too like I have yeah so I'm like absolutely let's go too is that is that some hot tea that you're drinking that is that is pot of tea you know lucky duck it's tea time here it is tea time i i have a bloom soda that I'm drinking nice I have a nice fresh glass of water you can't see it I also have okay nice what kind of tea do you drink um this one is uh actually uh I drink all kinds this is a simple truth organic I think it's a green tea oh yummy do you do you put sugar in your tea or are you just straight black tea?

SPEAKER_02 3:06

I will put um stevia

Tea Talk And The Matcha Debate

SPEAKER_02 3:10

in the raw gotcha gotcha you familiar with that yeah yeah I'll use that because it's like healthier doesn't spike with glue close and all that stuff and I've been on this matcha you know matcha I can't get behind matcha yeah I would have never guessed I would which is kind of wild like I would have never guessed it and I'm like making like at home whisking you're whisking it yeah like what's I used to work at Starbucks and I would have to make matches all the time they're kind of my worst nightmare now I'm not gonna oh my goodness and it's like you have to get ceremonial grade to it that one probably won't make me break out in hives yeah exactly real stuff yeah yeah exactly and uh you know being in I'm not in I'm in Ohio right now but like being in OH yeah exactly exactly being in LA little Tokyo you know being in like being able to get authentic like stuff is like a a thing so you know I kind of got on this matcha kick I'm not mad at it.

SPEAKER_08 4:22

Um so Shavar you have an incredible new track out right now uh would it be okay if we play it for the audience absolutely fantastic so this is so exciting I just thought we were chatting that's beautiful oh yeah oh we are chatting we are chatting but I want I would love for people to uh experience this new track yeah chatting snacking and I appreciate I appreciate you all inviting me on and like playing the song and all of that like that that means a lot to me so thank you that's awesome yeah man absolutely uh let's see here I gotta figure out someone has to talk about music on the music shelf let's see if I can I don't know if I can share Spotify or not have I done that before Taylor I think I've done that before oh yes you have well you figure it out do you want a life update yeah please please please please I am officially healthy Serena Carpenter You're officially healthy that's awesome I I think so other than hang on I'm gonna cough other than that I believe I'm officially out of the trenches I've been down bad for two weeks oh my goodness I have been the sickest I think I've ever been in quite a few years wow but so what what was was it um like seasonal kind of allergy stuff cold stuff I wish I got really sick at work last week and I ended up leaving work early going to urgent care and I had an upper respiratory infection oh my god literally I was and it truly probably one of the worst upper respiratory infections I've ever had I had to call off work for a whole week like I couldn't go in I I could barely get out of bed without hacking up along and then was feeling great Sunday Monday rolls around ten times worse ten times worse so I go back to urgent care after work and I ended up with a raging sinus infection from my upper respiratory infection oh my goodness and when I tell you it's probably not to be dramatic like I thought I had had sinus infections in the past probably the worst pain I think I've ever been in like up there like in my top five on the side of my face I couldn't eat my teeth hurt my face hurt my ear hurt these comments are wild I I'm not even uh reading them can I read them I can sure um

Getting Sick And Vocal Survival Gear

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but yeah so we're we're better I was I've been on antibiotics for a week I'm chilling now well that's awesome you're better that's that stinks like I've had bad sinus infections and stuff like that I actually started um all this new kind of protocol for myself for like before tour like I use this like the steamer it's like a a lot of vocalists used it I I never paid I used to never pay attention to any of that stuff I'm just like going from city to city staying up late like whatever you know I didn't do anything but like I've got a lot of dates coming up so um I'm always like I used to always get nervous about having a sinus infection because I've had it happen when I've flown to LA like early on and like had all this stuff booked and then my sinuses was terrible and couldn't do any vocals.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

Oh terrible right so but anyway this thing is a steamer and it's like 99.9% self-cleaning and like it does it cleans itself and all this stuff so you don't get any kind of other stuff going on. You use it in the morning and at night and it kind of helps naturally clear your sinus passages. Yeah but there's like some proprietary like sterile water you gotta use or whatever. And I use this other nebulizer too that kind of does the same thing and for anyone that's like using their voice a lot. Yeah oh yeah and it's been like a bit of a game changer and I'll be honest I was like I didn't even think it was I didn't think it was legit.

SPEAKER_12 8:51

I'm like I don't think I don't think you guys have been hiding this information from me for forever who would have thought a steamer could change your life yeah and that nebulizer I can feel it like going yeah rehearsals and stuff it's like oh nebulizers are fantastic I do own one yeah yeah it's great great at mind for asthma but yeah for sure so Taylor uh somebody wanted me to let you know that your your nails look oh yes I saw nail tour and then I was about to say that they're like you they're like shining like they are I got them done yesterday for the first time in a very long time so nice thank you and let let's jump into this song real quick so so what we're gonna do I am going to uh mute everybody we're going to appreciate this song in its entirety this is Shavar's new track I think it's incredible um I haven't gotten a chance to actually talk about it because I was waiting until we actually do the interview we're not doing that today we will have Shavar on another day to do a full interview and a full breakdown of this but let's go ahead and listen to the new track it's awesome guys maybe there we go okay so uh this is I've got my mind uh made up right that's the name of the track that is it yes sir all right let's go ahead and play I was dead from the onset me and you together was my first bet the battle all the regrets on the last time all the rejects I know that's my great deck

Premiering Shavar Dante’s New Track

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of my later and I'm thinking of only you and without God's light there ain't nothing that we can do absolutely incredible it's so good it feels good for my soul that's amazing I love it I could talk about that song forever so good it's it's such a uh lo-fi like super cool chill beat yeah Lindsay nailed it yeah um awesome I appreciate you guys and you recorded it in Ohio right same studio as last time yeah I recorded in my so I I did everything in my studio and then I mixed everything in Echo Park where I finished everything so yeah yeah sometimes I do overdubs out there too but this one it was just ready to you know mix and then master out there too so I love the transitions I love um the the little bit of guitar work there at the end where it kind of like fades out the rest of the track yeah yeah yeah super like early 2000s man yeah man and it's like I I know we're gonna talk about this later but like a quick aside like I like there's just like layers that peel away and there's stuff in there that you can kind of you know hear at different times you know and like some of the kind of like I don't know like some of those guitar synth riffs like to combine at the end you know you gotta kind of keep it uh keep it rock too you know right oh yeah so um my mom is in the comments she loves the song she has a couple of quick questions um first off she just wants me to tell you that she absolutely loves the song um she would like to know if you're on Pandora yes yes there we go yes um our little mom just look up Shavar Dante you'll see his name there on the screen you should be able to add that channel that's so amazing and then a few people have already purchased the song on iTunes and Spotify oh my god downloaded it on Spotify that's amazing thank you thank you thank you thank you there's a we we got we'll talk later about this but we have amazing journey that's come with this song it's gonna be awesome when we come back to it so I'm like super harley harley has some insider info that's so good uh you know what Adam says hi my little boy is in the other room he says hi hello hi Adam how are you doing dude Adam what's your uh your DJ ABC merch dj abc merch oh that's what's up help support my little my little guy that's what's up his jersey that's amazing music should look jersey that's so sweet like you know I like I I spend a lot of time telling other artists like hey you need to like make sure you're on your merch like for sure but that's amazing like at that age that's amazing I love well so so we got him uh we got him a DJ board when we was when he was really really little now he has like a little bit bigger one that's like a standing DJ board he's he's like almost two um dude it's it's just a toy but

Vinyl, Merch, Artwork, And DJ Culture

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but he loves dropping those beats man that's what's and and he loves the drums so I I think he's gonna be really into music. I love that I'm I'm into I'm major into electronic stuff and industrial stuff too I'm like you know a craft work kid you know I grew up listening to that right yeah craft work man yeah I thought everyone knew who they were too which is hilarious I'm like going up to kids you know who craft work so a fun story I found out about craft work from uh a friend uh at the record store his name's John Taylor you met John um I met older guy with glasses oh I love john oh oops um so anyways that was that zoom was epic dude I gotta say that that was that I love it but he he's a giant craft work fan and we were in the the record store uh looking at uh albums and he's a big devo fan and he was just telling me about a bunch of different artists and he was like you ever heard of craft work and I said no and he got me um one of their vinyls I had never heard of them before listened to it and I gotta say I'm not a giant fan but I wonder which one he got yeah I actually have no clue because I I just wasn't that into it so I gave it back to him and I was like yeah it's it's okay you know what I mean it's all right yeah yeah yeah it's just it's it's a different sound than I was used to it definitely appreciation for sure yeah it's definitely it just it influenced like all of that Detroit techno before electronic music or computer music technically but yeah that's it's interesting I would I think I was at first honestly just more intrigued with seeing these German guys with like the first video I saw them and they were like in these suits and they had like these metal sticks playing these like little drum pads and I was just so it looked like a sci-fi movie to me right so I'm like what is this you know um Chris is in the comments uh Chris yes Shivar Dante does have merch uh check out shavar's website Shivar what is the website called Shivardante.com and he has a merch line over there uh including vinyls and Shivar I'll let you tell the story about your vinyls because I I'm a big fan of your vinyl so yeah like I I have um we're always working on I'm gonna do a special edition seven inch for this one too coming out but I'm waiting for something to happen that Harley knows about yes sir but um yeah I um we have too much which is another awesome tune it was from the last EP a seven inch with an acoustic version um on that I just sold out of the 12 inch limited clear crystal clear keep my cool and then we're doing the last ep the too much ep on vinyl but that's not there yet so we have some seven inches there right now and then with all kinds of t-shirts all kinds of stuff hats all kinds of stuff and can I show you guys I was gonna outside of before we even talked about merch okay this is a minor I'm always trying to celebrate little minor victories but this is something I always yeah and this is something that came that I was always wanted right so for tour but check these out see if you can see oh guitar pick those are so cool and I'm like this has been like a little a dream of mine and I'm like I don't know there's just something about seeing dreams realized you know but

SPEAKER_02 22:00

These came in yesterday, and we've got some of these too. So the stickers of the artwork. I love the stickers.

SPEAKER_12 22:08

Your artwork is always incredible on your album. That's amazing. Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

Oh me and my friend in Berlin, um Trippy Steph, like we work on concepts and you know, send sketches back and forth and all kinds of stuff, and then he's just he's killing it. Like it he definitely executes it and like the the all of the finishes and yeah thing. I just the artwork is such an important part of the music to me. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_08 22:37

Yeah. Now that's amazing.

SPEAKER_12 22:41

Now, Shvar, you also do the the acoustic versions of your songs, they're um instrumentals, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:48

Yeah, instrumentals too, yeah. That's for the DJ culture. Kind of I grew up loving instrumentals. I don't I couldn't even understand why as a kid, I just liked them, you know, too. Whenever I would see them, and um I kind of have this vision of doing some vinyls for people that spin. Like there's a whole culture out in LA of people that just do these pop-ups and they just spin vinyl, and it's like really dope. So like I'll pop up and just take random vinyls to these things, and you know, and I'll kind of pick somebody and give them a random one if I think they might play it, but just if they're into music. But I thought about doing one that has the original and has an alt version instrumental and just an a cappella, too. So that's awesome. So cool. Do your own thing, you know.

SPEAKER_12 23:44

Uh, should I should I be offended by this? You think my mother just asked what color my eyes are.

SPEAKER_08 23:48

That that's not your mom, that's Shiloh. Shiloh is on her account. Shiloh, Shiloh's our little cousin, and she also wanted me to tell you that she loves your song.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_08 24:01

Mom and Shiloh are both there.

SPEAKER_12 24:03

Oh, okay. All right, all right, that makes a little more sense.

SPEAKER_08 24:06

Also, Shiloh, I love you so much. Colors both C O L O R.

SPEAKER_12 24:11

Cluer. Um, we have another fantastic special guest to join us for the rest of the show. We've got Danny in the house, everybody. Danny, hello, sir.

SPEAKER_08 24:23

Uh hi Danny, how are you?

SPEAKER_14 24:27

I'm doing good. I'm glad you have energy. I was afraid I was gonna come in like way too excited.

SPEAKER_08 24:32

Um five days on Amoxicillin,

Danny Arrives And Podcast Shoutouts

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dude. I'm chilling. I'm pumped. Yeah, cool.

SPEAKER_12 24:40

Um, Danny from the band, just happy to be here, and our podcast, The Dark Side of Music, and his other podcast that I just finally found yesterday. What did you find yesterday? I believe it's called the The Nerd, the Rock Nerd. That's not you. No, you were just on there.

SPEAKER_14 25:02

Yeah, I was just on that because like I like I've tested you because I was worried. Uh uh, I talk for way too long, and sometimes I talk about Marvel stuff for way too long. And so people just ask me to come and talk.

SPEAKER_12 25:15

Well, check them out on the nerd rock or the rock nerd podcast. That was awesome. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_14 25:20

Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Um, we got to make a soundtrack for the season two of uh Daredevil Born Again, like episode to episode, we were just making mixing songs up that made sense for the episode. Yeah, so it was a really cool concept, and I was like, hell yeah, I want to talk about this. So yeah, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_12 25:37

Yeah, um, so while we're here, guys, I have a whole bunch of stuff for us. Um, okay, Lindsay, my lovely, my lovely wife in the other room, loves funny TikTok or not TikTok, Instagram, Instagram reels. Um, and there she sends me a bunch of music themed ones. So we're gonna watch some. You guys want to watch some funny videos? Yeah, I'm gonna do that whether I'm here or not. That's what I know about. All right, let's see here. Uh, yes, Taylor.

SPEAKER_08 26:18

Thank you. I'm raising my hand. Um, before you do that, can I show everyone the background of my phone for Memorial Day? I changed it.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

Absolutely, it's going to be from now until USA USA.

SPEAKER_08 26:30

From now until probably September.

SPEAKER_02 26:34

That's a long time. Oh my god, that's awesome. I like the hot dogs as an American player. That's amazing. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_08 26:43

Anyway, continue with the videos. I just wanted to share.

SPEAKER_12 26:47

Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog.

SPEAKER_08 26:50

Diggity dog.

SPEAKER_12 26:51

Okay, she sent me so many.

SPEAKER_08 26:57

She said too old for TikTok, they're Instagram reels.

SPEAKER_12 27:01

Oh, I think they're all the same to me.

SPEAKER_14 27:03

Yeah, well, if you so like both of them have algorithms, and I feel like TikToks is a little bit quicker, so like I see the videos I want to see faster on TikTok, but I'll definitely see them again like a week later on Instagram.

SPEAKER_04 27:16

So I have never been on TikTok. What?

SPEAKER_12 27:20

What let me take that back. I have gone on to our show's TikTok to try and pay TikTok to promote videos for the show. Other than that, I have never been.

SPEAKER_08 27:33

Do you want to hear something really funny about that? I have never posted a video on TikTok. Ever. And you post things for our show, and I personally have more following than the volume.

SPEAKER_12 27:45

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 27:46

Nobody's on the show.

SPEAKER_12 27:48

I don't know how to. I don't know, dude. I have no idea how TikTok works.

SPEAKER_14 27:51

No clue. Yeah, I don't either. So I'll say this the band, my band uh TikTok account has like a fourth of what my personal one does. And I did not do that on purpose either. It's like one of those things where I I don't get it. I don't understand. I don't understand it.

SPEAKER_12 28:09

Shivar. Yeah. Oops. That was way loud. Is there a way to adjust that? That was great.

SPEAKER_08 28:18

Shavar, you seem like a YouTube shorts guy.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Yeah, you know. I'm gonna say that.

SPEAKER_09 28:26

I don't know if you should take that as a compliment or compliment.

SPEAKER_02 28:30

It's a compliment. No, but I I actually I actually upload what I did on TikTok, to be honest. I'll just take it and then upload it to shorts. You know, because it's oh yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, so yeah, no.

SPEAKER_12 28:47

I'm the same way. Like, I all of our stuff is just scheduled. So uh Lindsay's sister Courtney does a lot with us for the show, and she has told me that that's a horrible thing to do. Excuse me. Um, but like I have a program that I go on to that's just got all of it linked together, and I just click a clip and it schedules it to all of the social media at once. I gotcha, but apparently that is the wrong thing to do. Do not take that advice. No, first do that. You're not supposed to do it.

SPEAKER_08 29:18

Yeah, yeah, people, it's it's a whole thing.

SPEAKER_14 29:20

And you're supposed to upload specific types of content on specific apps, it's a whole thing. Yeah, certain ones have different time frames, like like one's like 15 to 30 seconds, the other's like 30 to 45 seconds. It's weird, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:35

It's yeah, for sure. Then you can kind of just adjust them. I kind of do that for the platform, but I've been doing I've done it before, and I just started doing it again, just kind of like doing some trial reels on Instagram.

SPEAKER_14 29:48

And oh, yeah, trial reels are awesome, yeah. And just what is that?

SPEAKER_02 29:53

So it'll test it to nine followers so you can kind of see what it does, and they'll actually push it out. So you should leave it there, they say 24 to 72

Social Media Algorithms And Trial Reels

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hours and kind of see what it does there, but it'll get pushed out to people that don't follow you, and then you can share it to your audience if you want to or not, you know. Keep it in track.

SPEAKER_12 30:16

I'm so confused. Wait, are you telling me right now all of the reels that go up only go to my followers? Yeah, unless I really well that makes sense.

SPEAKER_14 30:27

So if it's so if it's kind of the same for both TikTok and Instagram, where they they do show a percentage of your followers, but then they show it if they like it a lot, then it increases the percentage of non-followers that it'll show it to because they go, Oh, these people liked it a lot instantly. So let's see if these other people will like it. And then if they like it, then it just it keeps increasing both sides. Um, but yeah, the the I didn't know about trial rails. Uh drummer of of my band, Juan, all credit to him. He he was the one who started the trial rails, but they're awesome because like you still keep all of the views from the trial period when you when you flip it to your so like we have one that's like 4200. We had like 2,000 before we even flipped it to our our followers because just the the non-followers liked it instantly, type of thing. Yeah, I hate it, I hate social media so much, dude.

SPEAKER_17 31:25

That's awful, so stupid. Yeah, it's awful.

SPEAKER_12 31:29

I I don't know, I think I'm just old. I miss the days of just being able to be good at stuff and people like it.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

Yeah, it is it is crazy, and you know, all of the this isn't a knock, but it's just a reality. Like all of the marketing fan accounts that you know, yeah, these will use like a thousand fake accounts just to pull the content of the song that kind of drive traffic, yeah. It's just not a knock, but it's just like that's just what it is. That's a a tool that they that they use, you know, to break well made more major majors, too, you know. So yeah.

SPEAKER_12 32:12

Um, so before we jump into these videos, if anyone has ever been interested in starting a podcast or just doing like high-quality meetings for business or anything of the sort, and you're like, man, these guys look great on camera. I love the layout, I love everything they got going on. We use a program called StreamYard, and if you're interested, we do have a referral link you can click on as Taylor dies in the corner there during the ad read. Um, but please check out StreamYard if you're interested. They do have a free option, they have the paid subscription. I've been using this program for nearly three years now, and I can't say enough how much it completely changed our show, completely changed the landscape and quality of what we do. So try out StreamYard, it's worth it. All right, so let's watch some of these videos. This one was really loud, just a heads up, and I have no idea how to adjust the volume. So hopefully, hopefully it doesn't break everything. That's funny. All right, let's see what this next one is. Oh man.

SPEAKER_08 33:40

Are we just watching these with you? Did you not preview these at all?

SPEAKER_12 33:43

No, I this isn't it.

SPEAKER_14 33:44

You wanted it to be an organic surprise.

StreamYard Setup And Why It Works

SPEAKER_12 33:59

All right, let's do this one. I don't wanna I don't want to run through all of them immediately. I want to save some, but we'll do a lot of things.

SPEAKER_08 34:16

Also crazy that you're just showing like your messages to the world.

SPEAKER_12 34:22

I mean, it's all business related. Am I not supposed to do that?

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I don't know.

SPEAKER_14 34:27

I mean, it'd be more interesting if we could see actually all the conversations, not just the last thing.

SPEAKER_12 34:36

They're not they're not interesting.

SPEAKER_14 34:39

It's it's kind of uh what were you doing with Busch Gardens Williamsburg? What's going on there? Oh, dude, come on.

SPEAKER_12 34:46

We went and saw Ryan Cabrera.

SPEAKER_14 34:48

Oh, that's where you saw him. I saw the post. I yeah, I forgot.

SPEAKER_12 34:52

I didn't know you got you got a link, you gotta link the people, man.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

That's so funny. What's up, man? Also, look at those blue check marks.

SPEAKER_12 35:01

You know, um neither Ryan nor Bush Gardens collaborated with my post. I take it kind of personal.

SPEAKER_14 35:12

You should. You are not the only person who's been slighted by uh Ryan Cabrera, and definitely not the only person who's been slighted by Busch Gardens. Most of Virginia, yeah.

Watching Music Clips And Cringe Moments

SPEAKER_14 35:25

I grew up in Nova, so I was I was around Bush Gardens.

SPEAKER_12 35:31

All right, all right, let's check this one out.

SPEAKER_15 35:44

Six seven, Taylor. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_08 35:46

Gosh, it's my it's in my blood now.

SPEAKER_12 35:49

All right, let's check in on the comments real quick. We'll uh we'll move out of this real quick.

SPEAKER_08 35:54

Check in. While you're checking, can I give some shout-outs to my to my May babies? My May birthdays that have happened.

SPEAKER_12 36:01

Uh, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_08 36:02

First of all, shout out Pre Malone for her May birthday at the beginning of the month. Woo woo. She's watching now. She's on. That's great. Um, shout out Miss Shiloh, who just had a birthday yesterday.

SPEAKER_12 36:14

Shiloh, happy birthday, Shiloh.

SPEAKER_08 36:16

Happy birthday, Shiloh. Um, shout out to our dad who has her birthday at the end of the month. It's on the 30th, just letting it know now.

SPEAKER_06 36:24

Hey, thanks, buddy. Appreciate that.

SPEAKER_08 36:26

Shout out to him, and you know, shout out to all the moms because Mother's Day was recently.

SPEAKER_12 36:31

Yes, Mother's Day was recently. Yeah, Mother's Day. We had um Miss Pistachio and and we did uh uh both moms, Peter, Peter, you know, Peter Manicat, James, Peter James.

SPEAKER_11 36:51

I forgot. I was waiting to see if you were gonna say his real last name, which I do not know how to say myself.

SPEAKER_12 36:57

So um, but we did it, we did a Mother's Day episode recently.

SPEAKER_07 37:03

Mom said poor Shiloh missed the 6-7.

SPEAKER_08 37:05

Oh no, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 37:06

Let's let's read let's three uh let's read through some of these.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

Uh so have to run it back.

SPEAKER_12 37:12

Yeah, Lindsay said uh Lindsay said too old for TikTok. Um then my mom was talking to her about that. Uh let's see, is there any other good ones? Let's see.

SPEAKER_08 37:22

You're welcome, Winter. I don't know what I did, but you're welcome.

SPEAKER_12 37:26

Chris said that his daughter Faith said it's because I don't listen to my intern, uh, Faith. Oh sorry.

SPEAKER_08 37:33

Other Chris, hey, hang on, I have to stop. Other Chris also had a birthday.

SPEAKER_12 37:37

Oh yes. Oh, that's been talking about it on that episode. Oh, that's really messed up, Taylor.

SPEAKER_08 37:43

Gosh, I'm the worst.

SPEAKER_12 37:45

You forgot that.

SPEAKER_08 37:45

I and I'm gonna feel really bad about it for the rest of my life. I'm gonna take that to the grave. That that um that carries with me.

SPEAKER_12 37:53

So organic is a good word for that, is something that Lindsay said. I don't I don't know what that was in reference to.

SPEAKER_14 37:58

That was when I said you didn't watch any of the the videos because you wanted organic.

SPEAKER_12 38:02

Oh, organic, yeah, everyone to see them for the first time. I do like organic for that. Uh it makes it sound more expensive, and I like that. I love it. So let's do something else really quick. Um, I want to give away some merch tonight. Ooh. All right. They are the only ones who get to win merch. So anybody that's watching right now, if you are interested in winning some merch, we're gonna do a music trivia question, and you'll answer the question. And if you get it right, I will let you know that you won. And then you will email me your shipping information, and we will ship

Trivia Giveaway And Jimi Hendrix Confusion

SPEAKER_12 38:55

you some hook and bridge podcast merch. Maybe your own DJ ABC shirt.

SPEAKER_08 39:00

DJ A B Cam buddy. So represent. Bring him on. Where's he at?

SPEAKER_12 39:07

He's in the other room, I think. He might be in the bath right now.

SPEAKER_08 39:10

Don't bring him on right now.

SPEAKER_12 39:12

What should our our trivia question be, guys?

SPEAKER_08 39:18

Mom says make it about Bon Jovi.

SPEAKER_12 39:21

Yeah. Um, let's see here. Uh genre. How about uh Danny? You pick a genre. Oh, oh, hold on. We got a we got a visitor.

SPEAKER_08 39:32

Is it my baby? Oh some T T. How are you, dude? Whoa. And these are your uncles. Say hi.

SPEAKER_12 39:50

Wow. You say hi? Do you want to say hi?

SPEAKER_04 39:54

Say feet.

SPEAKER_08 39:58

Hello.

SPEAKER_02 40:01

I love it.

SPEAKER_08 40:02

Gosh, my heart is so full and happy, dude. Hi, hi.

SPEAKER_14 40:07

He's just training the next generation of uh hosts here. That's right. Brilliant. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_08 40:14

Oh, bye, dude. Bye, Lindsay. See you later. Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_12 40:24

Oh, man. All right. Oh, hi.

SPEAKER_08 40:29

There's two of me. Hello. Yeah. This camera, man.

SPEAKER_12 40:33

It's it's super cool. It's super cool.

SPEAKER_14 40:35

I totally want to get that camera. It's it's so cool that it just moves around. What camera is that?

SPEAKER_12 40:40

So it's this is the OBS bot. Uh, I got it on Amazon. They have great sales on it all the time. Um, I think I paid $150 for it, but it is an incredible camera, fantastic quality. Um, it is a webcam too. So that's nice. Yeah, as far as webcams go, like this is like the best webcam I've ever had. That's very cool. It is it is pretty nice. It was one of the best investments for the show, but anytime you're doing any sort of content creation, it's a travel camera, also. So it's it's a really great camera. Oh, that's really cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 41:21

Um, any said it's not moving on its own. The NSA is monitoring you.

SPEAKER_11 41:27

Probably.

SPEAKER_08 41:29

I definitely read that as NASA at first, and I was like, why doesn't NASA know what we do? That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 41:34

They're watching just in case they're always watching.

SPEAKER_12 41:38

So, Danny, what genre should we make a trivia question about?

SPEAKER_14 41:42

Well, we gotta do rock, right? Let's do it if we're moving to to Bon Joby related questions. It's gotta be rock at least to start.

SPEAKER_12 41:53

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_08 41:55

I will be reading Miss Primalone's answers, just letting you know. She's watching on our TV, she doesn't have a way to tell you, she's watching on our TV.

SPEAKER_12 42:03

Hello, Primalone. It's been a very long time.

SPEAKER_08 42:06

Oh, it's my girl for real. In Nebraska.

SPEAKER_12 42:11

Nebraska.

SPEAKER_08 42:13

Nebraska.

SPEAKER_12 42:14

Yeah, here we go. This is a good one, and all of us know this answer, too. Um, which artist played a right-handed fender stratocaster upside down because he was left-handed. So give your answer in the comments and send over uh uh your shipping info once you find out that that you've won. In the meantime, Danny, how's life been, bud?

SPEAKER_14 42:44

Life life's been good and bad. I I mean we we shared a uh a bond with you know hurt feet or or her lower extremities. Yours, yours, I I heard is doing well. That's it is it is mine not so much.

SPEAKER_07 43:02

No, what happened?

SPEAKER_14 43:04

Uh

Foot Injuries And Onstage Consequences

SPEAKER_14 43:05

well I jump around too much, and that's basically what the podiatrist told me is you know you you probably jammed it, sprained it really bad, uh, and or have microfractures. So I had to go get x-rays last week or this past so is it is it the ankle? No, it's the actual um well, he thinks it's the joint of the big toe and then the side of the foot. Yeah. Like so he thinks like there might be some cartilage damage, or I might have stretched a ligament, or but he just wanted to rule out fractures and stuff like that. So hopefully it's not that.

SPEAKER_08 43:39

Um he got me some toe yoga, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 43:42

He gave me some stuff that reduces the swelling, which is awesome, but it doesn't do anything for pain, I felt right. So I'm not swollen anymore, but it sure hurts. Um, but yeah, so he I I already got them the x rays sent over to. Him, but I mean it's the the week leading up to Memorial Day, so I was like, I'm not gonna hear anything if he didn't get it before like Wednesday. Right. So and he didn't. Um, so I'll hear something next week, I'm sure. Uh gosh. Yeah, I mean, it's not nearly as bad as it was, uh, but it's yeah, it's not there, it's not fixed.

SPEAKER_12 44:22

I will say, at least from my experience, the foot heals pretty good and pretty fast.

SPEAKER_14 44:29

The only thing I'm worried about is of course, when you tell people like, hey, I've got, you know, I hurt my foot and stuff like that. Everybody's got stories about hurting their feet and and stuff. And one person told me, Yeah, you gotta be careful with that. You know, I I uh hurt my foot. I think I broke some a couple of my toes or something like that, and I didn't go to the doctor and they healed wrong. And the doctor, I finally did because I was in pain, and the doctor's like, Well, yeah, we're gonna have to re break all of these. And I was like, Oh, yeah, I don't want that to ever happen.

SPEAKER_08 45:00

So do they put you under? There's no way they're just snapping toes up in that office.

SPEAKER_14 45:07

That would be crazy. The what you just did and what my brain just imagined. I don't because I'm just imagining like little baby carrot snaps.

SPEAKER_12 45:17

Like I was picturing a chiropractor's office.

SPEAKER_08 45:20

Oh take a deep breath in for me.

SPEAKER_14 45:25

Gosh, but the worst part is my little toes aren't the ones that hurt, so like the big toe, that's like breaking like a drumstick type of thing.

SPEAKER_08 45:32

So, like, that's a whole celery stock, dude. That's uh oh gosh.

SPEAKER_14 45:38

Oh I don't think the toe itself is messed up, and he doesn't either, but yeah, it he thinks it's the joint, and and which sucks because it's worse than if the if it was just the toe, because it's like yeah, you have to flex the the the toe and the joint and everything.

unknown 45:53

I don't know.

SPEAKER_12 45:54

Mine mine's been doing good, but I will say I uh oh you you're gonna you're gonna make it there?

unknown 46:00

Keep going.

SPEAKER_12 46:01

Okay, okay. Um mine's been doing good, but I will say it's it's started to hurt more recently. Oh no. So like yeah, like throughout my day, like the more I use it, the more it starts to hurt. And then when I get home in the evenings, it's very swollen. So I might be overdoing it a little bit, but yeah, I got more exercises. Did they give you anything for inflammation? They offered me, dude. Doctors are crazy, like they offered me the most extreme drugs right out the gate. Really?

SPEAKER_14 46:34

Yeah, well, you actually had a break, right? You yours was fractured.

SPEAKER_12 46:39

Oh, well, so it turns out that fracture was actually old, it was an old fracture. The the Taylor, what's the doctor I went and saw? Pediatrist, yeah. That's what I went to. Yeah, so so the fracture apparently was old. They were like, Yeah, this is an old injury. So I had at some point in time fractured my ankle and just lived with it, and was chilling. Oh man, see, that's exactly what I said.

SPEAKER_14 47:04

That's my worst case. Like, that's my nightmare, is that I I have already done that and it's just healing wrong, and that's why I've got so much pain.

SPEAKER_12 47:13

But apparently, I did a level three sprain, and I tore most of the ligaments, which arguably might be worse, I guess. So, yeah, I don't know. Do you have to get like an ultrasound or or no? They they were able to determine it just from like touching it and looking at the x-ray. Wow, yeah. Literally, the lady like rubbed a spot and she was like, Does that hurt? And I was like, Fuck yeah, it does remote for a real doctor. Uh dude, I don't know, man. The Virginia healthcare system's so messed up, but I have no idea. It was a hospital.

SPEAKER_14 47:49

I I don't get like I've only had x-rays a couple of times. And so, like, I was like, Yeah, I'm gonna have to, you know, sit on like a lie on a table and and stuff like that. I didn't realize that you know it had to be bent and turned like four or five different times to just get one foot x-ray. And she was like, she was like, Oh, is it is it like tender? And I was like, Well, only when you touch and or move it, and she was like, Oh, okay, yank, and she just like yanked it to the side and like was like, Hey, I just gotta manipulate it like this, and okay, Danny.

SPEAKER_08 48:27

When I dislocated my knee, they took me for x-rays, and it is probably one of the more painful experiences that I have had. And I would have to go to the hospital when it would like lock up, they would have to unlock it, and then send me for more x-rays, and they were doing the same same thing with your foot, they were going this way, that way, and I was like, guys, nope, we can't do that.

SPEAKER_14 48:50

Nope.

SPEAKER_08 48:51

Oh, I feel for you. It's not a week.

SPEAKER_12 48:54

Let's check in on these comments because these are crazy. Um, first of all, uh, yes, Taylor.

SPEAKER_08 49:00

Um, I have Primalone's answer.

SPEAKER_12 49:02

If you want to watch Primalone's answer, let's hear it.

SPEAKER_08 49:05

Pre Primalone said, Is it Eddie Van Halen?

SPEAKER_12 49:10

Oh man, Primalone. I am so sorry.

SPEAKER_02 49:13

I love that name though. Primalone. Primalone.

SPEAKER_12 49:18

Ask her, ask her if we're allowed to tell Shavar why I literally was just about to ask. I'm gonna ask her if we can hear so so unfortunately that is not correct. Let's dive into some of these comments because this is funny. Uh, my my mother, just my mother, not Taylor's mother, um, said Jiminy Hendrix. Uh uh Aaron said Kenny G. Chris second the Kenny G comment. Uh Lindsay said Jiminy Cricket. Um let's see here. She blamed Spelljack, but we all know she didn't know how to spell Jimmy.

SPEAKER_07 49:52

Shiloh said please play the songs, the 6-7 song.

SPEAKER_12 49:57

We'll we'll play the video again for her.

SPEAKER_07 49:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 49:59

Um, so, anyways, uh, and then Chris says to check the group chat.

SPEAKER_08 50:05

Um, I was told that I can share cool why she's called pre-malone. So she is my best friend from high school. We are very, very close. This was years ago. She randomly, I don't remember if she had messaged me or called me, but she said, Do you think I look like post Malone? And I said, What okay?

SPEAKER_02 50:28

Wait a minute. What era of post Malone?

SPEAKER_15 50:31

Exactly. That's what I was just about to ask.

SPEAKER_12 50:33

Well, this would be this was early posty.

SPEAKER_15 50:36

Like why early posty with the braids?

SPEAKER_12 50:38

With the yeah, yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_02 50:40

Okay, okay, okay. I got context now.

SPEAKER_08 50:43

Okay, and I remember bringing it up to Harley, and we were looking at pictures of her and post Malone side by side, so we could give her a yes or a no. We were taking it very seriously, and I said, Girl, I don't think you look like post Malone. And I disagreed, I heavily disagreed, and then he heavily disagreed, and then he said, Well, she's like pre-malone.

SPEAKER_02 51:06

That is hilarious. I love it. That's great.

SPEAKER_08 51:10

She just texted me, she said, like beer, bong's and Bentley's era. Okay, I uh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 51:18

That was uh you were in what grade, Taylor?

SPEAKER_08 51:21

I think I had either just graduated or maybe I was a senior in high school.

SPEAKER_12 51:24

I think you must you you were definitely younger, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 51:27

No, I was a junior, she was a senior, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was a long time, beer bongs. Okay, long is crazy, yeah. Long is crazy. It was like eight years ago.

SPEAKER_11 51:41

That's a long time.

SPEAKER_08 51:43

Um, anyways, yeah. So she has been she has been pre-malone for the past six.

SPEAKER_02 51:50

That is hilarious. I love it. I love a good nickname story because it's that's great, especially from that long ago.

SPEAKER_08 52:00

It's so funny.

SPEAKER_12 52:02

And we are selling pre-malone shirts on our website.

SPEAKER_08 52:06

We are selling premalone shirts.

SPEAKER_15 52:08

That's awesome. Uh I love it.

SPEAKER_12 52:13

Chris made while we were talking something on chat GPT that I have to show you guys.

SPEAKER_08 52:21

Chris knows how I feel about chat GPT.

SPEAKER_12 52:24

Oh, dude, he is so in now you have no idea. All right, check this out, guys.

SPEAKER_03 52:34

Whoa!

SPEAKER_12 52:35

It's Jimmy Lee.

SPEAKER_03 52:37

Jimmy's blurred.

SPEAKER_14 52:40

See, this is the only acceptable thing to use at GPT.

SPEAKER_15 52:44

Right, right. That is in the funny yeah, you know what?

SPEAKER_08 52:51

I support it. I do, I do. That's really funny.

SPEAKER_12 52:56

I will say though, just for future reference, Chris, this picture is highly inaccurate, especially since our question was who plays the upside down guitar? That is a right side up guitar.

SPEAKER_08 53:08

That is a right side up guitar, and maybe it's a left-handed guitar. What was the answer?

SPEAKER_12 53:12

Uh Jimmy was the end the answer.

SPEAKER_08 53:14

Yeah, perfect. Sorry, my bad, my bad, my bad.

SPEAKER_12 53:18

So, in that case, um, anyone who actually knew the answer, feel free to email us.

SPEAKER_00 53:25

Your mom tried to type Jimi Hendrix and it auto-corrected to Jiminy Hendrix, which is why Chris and I said Jiminy.

SPEAKER_12 53:33

So I don't know if you guys heard that.

SPEAKER_00 53:35

Heard it.

SPEAKER_12 53:36

That's funny. Um, but yeah, if uh if anybody thinks that they won, please email us over at hook and bridgepodcast at gmail.com and I will mail you out some merch.

SPEAKER_08 53:53

Like surprise merch.

SPEAKER_12 53:55

Yes. Yes, in your email, tell me your t-shirt size though, because I want to it's a do the three people who are hanging out with you right now also get surprise merch. Oh, yes, absolutely. Everybody gets merch.

SPEAKER_14 54:08

It's only surprise merch if when you open up the the the packaging, there's like confetti that comes out.

SPEAKER_08 54:14

That's oh Danny that's that's crazy.

SPEAKER_14 54:19

You wouldn't I wasn't even thinking glitter bomb, I was just thinking like you know, regular paper mache confetti, like instruction paper cut up into little teen type pieces.

SPEAKER_08 54:29

Just so you know, anyone confetti.

SPEAKER_12 54:31

If anyone ever sends me a glitter bomb, I don't know what I did wrong to you, but that's remember this.

SPEAKER_08 54:38

I was gonna say, remember this is live.

SPEAKER_14 54:41

The only thing I'll say, I never want to get a glitter bomb, but if I were to ever get one as a as a gag gift, I I need it to be the the edible glitter in case it gets somewhere and my cat eats it. Like that's my only concern.

SPEAKER_08 54:56

That's your only thing.

SPEAKER_14 54:57

Yeah, I do not care like that that there's just glitter everywhere. I'll clean it eventually. I don't care, but like, yeah, I just want my cat to eat some of it and die. Yeah, yeah, make sure it's the edible glitter kind. That's all I care about.

SPEAKER_12 55:09

Also, though, I think Danny doesn't understand. As a husband of a teacher, I've been with this woman so long now.

SPEAKER_08 55:20

I'm still glitter from when I lived there, dude.

SPEAKER_12 55:22

Glitter is it doesn't go away. It literally is lifelong. As soon as you come in contact, you just have glitter now.

SPEAKER_14 55:30

Did we ever figure out what is glitter made? Were we were we talking about this? Where like there's a big conspiracy about what glitter is actually made of because there was like a glitter shortage at one point. I feel like unicorns and wishes. Weren't we talking about this? That there was like a glitter shortage. I was talking to I swear I was talking to somebody, I thought it was you. I was talking about this because there was in the news that there was a glitter shortage at one point.

SPEAKER_08 55:58

Crazy that's making the news. I mean, how is there a glitter shortage?

SPEAKER_14 56:02

I that's that's what I'm saying because nobody knows what glitter is actually made of.

SPEAKER_08 56:07

Yeah, what

Why Nickelback Became A Punchline

SPEAKER_08 56:10

I thought it was like ashes of pop stars or something, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_14 56:15

Maybe that's why we don't have that many pop stars.

SPEAKER_12 56:17

Well, we did just get off of the Eras tour, and I feel like that used up at least 75% of the world's glitters. I mean, maybe that's the reason.

SPEAKER_14 56:25

Maybe maybe all confetti. So confetti's safer because it's bigger, so you can't confetti is safer, yeah. And it's paper, right?

SPEAKER_12 56:33

Confetti's paper. Yeah, glitter is like glass.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

They would say it was like glass, like the old school glitter art. Home could be.

SPEAKER_08 56:41

Are they blowing glass around?

SPEAKER_14 56:44

Like we're gonna I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what it's made of, or I don't know what it was originally made of, and I don't know what it's made of now. But like at it was I swear within the last year, it was in the news that there was some sort of glitter shortage, and nobody knew what glitter was made of.

SPEAKER_08 57:00

It is wild.

SPEAKER_12 57:01

Everybody in the comments, tell us what you think glitter's made of.

SPEAKER_02 57:05

Yeah, uptick and exotic. Made of that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_08 57:16

Oh, we shouldn't be glitter bombing people.

SPEAKER_12 57:21

What is it? Anthrax?

SPEAKER_08 57:23

Ugh no.

unknown 57:28

Sorry.

SPEAKER_08 57:29

I watched that episode of Criminal Minds. Um, so apparently it's microplastics. Is that it?

SPEAKER_14 57:43

So it's metal and microplastics. Yeah, that that's probably not safe.

SPEAKER_12 57:48

Yeah, I don't know, man. I realistically, didn't they do like a study that said like we all have metal shavings and microplastics in our bodies?

SPEAKER_13 57:55

Oh, absolutely.

SPEAKER_08 57:56

Oh, yeah. Microplastics are my favorite snack.

SPEAKER_14 57:58

Yeah, at this point everywhere, yeah, yeah. They do it, they they are saying that there's like some stuff that they're developing that you can take that like just latches onto it and it'll all go out. Uh I'm sorry, I was reading.

SPEAKER_08 58:17

Can you repeat that?

SPEAKER_12 58:18

I also was reading, uh Taylor, are you reading the same thing? What the heck does Y5P mean?

SPEAKER_08 58:25

What are you reading?

SPEAKER_14 58:26

The comment. The comment that says Y5P. Yeah, that's I was my jewelry.

SPEAKER_08 58:31

That's her at. That's Chris's wife's at, who is very funny, by the way. Are you reading her comments? Um, I assume it's mom trying to talk to her. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 58:45

Is it speaking in code?

SPEAKER_08 58:48

Is her name? I know. I just realized I'm I'm talking to Harley and he's a little older than me.

SPEAKER_12 58:55

Um oh, I promised Shiloh I would play that uh that 6-7-1 again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's jump, let's jump into that real quick.

SPEAKER_08 59:02

Happy birthday, Shiloh.

SPEAKER_12 59:04

Happy birthday, Shiloh. Happy birthday. Oops. Uh oh.

SPEAKER_08 59:08

You're frozen.

SPEAKER_11 59:09

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_08 59:11

Um, Danny, can I just say you are glowing? What is your moisturizer? Are you do you have moisturizer on?

SPEAKER_14 59:17

Uh well, so I so I have an amazing cousin who who kind of like when I have questions, so like I don't know anything about skincare at all. Okay. I just never did. Um, but she does my hair, she cuts my hair and colors my hair. Um, but also like I was like, hey, uh, what do I do about like I I just I sleep horribly. Um and I was like, what do I do about like the really dark circles under my eyes and stuff? And she's like, oh, well, if you get like these these patches, you can put them under your eyes. And she showed me this this brand, and they're the slimiest, weirdest things that I have ever like held on to. And I'm like, like they're like squishing out of my fingertips and stuff. And I I I put them on and they feel amazing as they just kind of dry up.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:06

Yeah, they look great.

SPEAKER_14 1:00:08

So it's a little bit of self-care and it feels it feels real nice.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:11

I love it. You you look cared for.

SPEAKER_14 1:00:13

I I will I will I will tell her that it's it's working.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:16

Yes, she did good. Um Taylor. Also, I so sorry. I need to sorry, I need to apologize. Faith is Chris's daughter. I got confused with hope. Hope is his wife's name, right? Oh my god, Faith, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. My bad. Yeah, I'll leave.

SPEAKER_12 1:00:32

Hey, if it matters, if it matters, they've been telling me Lindsay's my sister for like 10 years.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:37

So we kinda we look like triplets. If we're all together smart enough, we gotta pull up a picture somewhere.

SPEAKER_12 1:00:46

I um all right, Taylor, you'll be happy. I also speaking of skincare, Danny, used uh lotion for the first time in my life, like two days ago. Wait, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_14 1:00:58

Oh, okay. Yeah, I've been so I used to swim, so I'm used to just like gooping on lotion, like regular lotion, yeah, top to bottom, just just to to offset the chlorine and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:10

But yeah, that makes sense. I definitely thought it would make you swim faster.

SPEAKER_14 1:01:14

Yeah, well, that that's a different kind, but uh no conditioner and lotion. I every time I swam, I would I would do that all the time. So I'm used to that, but yeah, nothing. I never did anything for my face. I had to be I had to be educated.

SPEAKER_12 1:01:28

Yeah, my uh my foot was very dry. So I use a little dabble lotion on it.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:35

Oh, we gotta Shabar, do you have a skincare routine?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:41

Actually, you know what? I've um no, speaking of instead of lotion, I use this oil. I think it's called, I can't remember what it's called. It's like the truth though. It's super expensive, but like um, I didn't have to pay for it, so but yeah, I was using this human race stuff. This um Pharrell found at this skincare company.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:11

Oh, that's cool. Oh, very cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:13

Yeah, so it's like there's like uh a three-step little process, so it's yeah, so I need to re-up that before tour too, you know. But um I'm like I'll have the I'll have seasons where I'm doing that and then I'm just like straight not doing nothing.

SPEAKER_14 1:02:35

Oh yeah. It's you just caught me on a on a good day. Like there are many days where I don't use them, but they just feel like when it's when it's like warm it and they're nice and cool, it just feels so good. Yeah, it's like store, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:50

I do like being cool, so that intrigues me.

SPEAKER_14 1:02:53

You can because you can put them in the refrigerator and then they cool down, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:56

Yeah, and they're just like and they feel good.

SPEAKER_14 1:02:59

Can you sleep with it on? If you fall asleep, I mean they just stick to your face. Like, yeah, the whole thing is they're super goopy, so you wouldn't want to like put them on and then immediately go to bed. But if you were gonna like put them on and be up for like 20 minutes, half an hour before you actually lay down, okay, okay. It's fine. They just dry out and they like stick to your face.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:19

Yeah, yeah, and then you're left all moisturized, yeah, and then it's cold.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:23

The cold is what's got me.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:24

The creepy, the the creepy things. Have you seen the full masks that like they like light up? Yeah, no, no, I'm talking about the ones that are like the uh the under-eye things where it's but it's just like oh yeah, yeah, like those.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:38

Well, this is eye.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:39

Well, those are the eyes, yeah. Uh they put them into the wiener dogs. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:43

Yeah, I'll I'll put them on for the show.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:48

But you gotta put some lotion on your face, but yeah, they have the they have the full face mask, and they that will actually dry onto your face, and then you just have to peel it off. I just like a piece of glue, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_15 1:04:03

Well, dog, they look like wiener dogs. I love that's awesome. That's zero crazy.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:10

So, what they need to do is start making fun shapes because I feel like this will be the thing that gets all guys into wearing under-eye patches.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:17

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:18

If you gave me wiener dog under-eye patches or like rocket ships, or like you know what I mean? Like crazy stuff like that. I'm absolutely doing that every day.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:28

Yeah, that would be sick. Like shapes, like, yeah, like and it's like it could be like mystery.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:36

You don't know until you open it up and you're like, okay, today I've got sailboats.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:40

Like all right, all right. I'm gonna play this for Shiloh real quick.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

Um living like a blind man. Summing out a sense of feeling, and this is how you remind me.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:01

I feel like this is how uh uh this is how um I can't I nickel this is a nickelback gets to every single generation. Isn't that the truth?

SPEAKER_08 1:05:15

I was just gonna say, I think the nickelback hate is forced. And I've been saying that for years.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:22

No, no, it's well nothing against nothing nothing against nickelback. I'm just saying I feel like this is every generation has had they they just they just they get in the world.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:34

Yeah, like they well Taylor, Taylor, you you do know like the historic story of how Nickelback started getting the hate, right?

SPEAKER_08 1:05:43

Like you know, like I don't do research. No, okay.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:47

What do you do? Dante or Shavar and and Danny, do you guys know uh the story of Nickelback? No.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:58

I feel like I vaguely I can't remember.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:00

I'm not sure if I know the real story though, like of how that's what actually happened is that they were so insanely popular that at one point during the the time that that song was popular, you could not listen to a single radio station because they had broken through all of the mainstream charts, they broke through all of the different genres, and you couldn't listen to a station that wasn't playing that song. I think at one point it was playing every hour of the day on some radio station. I am so they had such popularity that it built like this hatred towards them because people are like, Oh my god, I'm tired of hearing this song.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:39

You know, that's fair.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:40

But what actually finally solidified that hate was a comedian going on like a late night show, making a joke about nickelback, and everyone gravitated to that joke, and they became the the joke band.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:55

I feel like that's the that's the story I heard. Yeah, something about yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:00

But it all stemmed from that fame, like they were just the most popular thing at the time. Um, but that comedian is the guy from the Big Bang Theory, the the geologist. Wow, that's insane.

SPEAKER_14 1:07:14

Oh, Brian Poussein.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:15

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:17

Neither of those help.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:18

I need the the name of the guy, like his he really liked like uh Sheldon's he he was kind of like a weird-looking guy with uh a little beard, I think.

SPEAKER_14 1:07:29

Really tall, really big glasses. He really liked Sheldon's girlfriend. Um Amy Farafowler, yeah. Amy Farafowler. Um and she she didn't know how to tell him that she was already dating Sheldon type of thing. Right. Oh I just did a rewatch because they they they showed the preview of the the new spin-off thing.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:52

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, that's how Nickelback got the hate, and then uh people started treating them really terribly at concerts, and like it really crushed their career for almost a decade, and then meme culture is what brought them back. People started doing the vine of them with the photograph, and they kept changing it to different things.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:13

Look at this graph, yeah. That's what I thought about.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:18

So, yeah, that's how they got back into mainstream culture, and people started to love them again. But I would say one of the greatest metal bands of all time. I think nickelback's absolutely incredible, especially their early work. Their early work was so good, man. Silver Side Up was so good. Um, what was the other one? The the uh it had Follow You Home and Rockstar and all those songs on it. Uh um for all the wrong reasons. Yes, yeah, yeah. Great album, great album.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:52

Great band, great band. Are they playing? Are they touring right now?

SPEAKER_11 1:08:56

Yeah, they're back bigger than have they done anything like new?

SPEAKER_12 1:09:02

Yeah, they actually just put out a new album two years ago. Anything new for uh does it sound uh it's called San Quentin. No, it's actually great. It they've put out like really good quality songs their entire career. Longevity, like they're one of those bands, they didn't change their sound, which is huge because a band typically wants to experiment and do some new stuff and try and reinvent themselves. They just said, screw all of that, we're gonna keep putting out the thing that people like over and over and over, and it's worked.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:32

Love it.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:33

Yeah, I will say though, the band now has gotten um a little more like softer

Tour Plans And Theme Park Residencies

SPEAKER_12 1:09:40

than they used to be. They're going heavier into their ballads than they used to. So but anyways, that's my my nickel bag spiel.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:51

Um, I have a question for the class. This has nothing to do with music, but my comment when I said dog down has me thinking, there's this shirt that I found online, and it said, Call me a vet because I'd be putting these dogs down, and it has hot dogs on it. No, why are you obsessed with hot dogs? Dude, I they're delicious. That's not the point, they're delicious. Um, should I get it?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:20

Yes, yeah, yeah. That's that's okay. That's too good.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:24

That's what you're we're we're enablers here. So if you're asking this class, the answer is yes.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:31

I clearly worked at it and I was like, you know, it could hit the wrong crowd if I wear it out and about, but I think it's oh yeah, it is very funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:41

Is it like I feel like that's too good?

SPEAKER_12 1:10:47

I will I will agree, it is very funny. Do we do we have more? Oh, oops, sorry. Yeah, what I was trying to remove it because I want to show us another one. Oh so I pulled these from YouTube earlier today.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:10

That's a Timu special. That's so funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:15

I don't know. That's so that Timu special thing is so hilarious.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:20

Chris, you still owe me uh Timu. He loves Timu. You still owe me a Statue of Liberty outfit. Just letting you know.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:30

So these these are just a handful of clips that I pulled from YouTube, uh, just music related related clips. Um this one, this first one is Kirk Hammett and failing to remember how to play one of the most famous uh uh Metallica songs of all time. It's a classic clip.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

Oh man, that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_12 1:12:15

Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_14 1:12:17

There is nothing you can do about you, you just have yeah, you have to own it. Yeah, yeah. There's a Bleak 182 clip where Tom is playing in the wrong in the wrong key. Yeah, he's playing in the wrong key, and he goes, Nobody said anything, and he like yells at everybody, and then he plays it in the right key. And it was funny, it was what's my age again, I think, right? Like I think so. Yeah, that's what it was. It's complete, it's like two keys different, like type of thing. Like it's way different.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:45

There, um, there's one of Sabrina Carpenter where she's singing and then she stops and she goes, Oh my god, guys, I forgot the words to my song. And then like three seconds later.

SPEAKER_11 1:12:55

Have either of you guys ever done that? So you want to go first?

SPEAKER_15 1:13:01

Yeah, you can go first. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:05

I panic because I can't think of my lyrics unless I'm in the moment, and so like sometimes when I'm like on stage and I think about it, I panic, and then all of a sudden muscle memory just kicks in, and I like I literally just can black out and I can do everything in the in the set. The only time yeah, the only time I've actually forgot a lyric, and it didn't forget a lyric, I sang the wrong verse, like I just mixed the two verses up was um I can't remember what's it was a cover, and I just can't remember what it was, but I I literally just flip-flopped the first and the second verse, so I was like, whoops, like it's it's all still there, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:51

Exactly. I've definitely done that before, and like I've uh when a song is like brand new, like I I did that actually on a new song before it was even out because I'll like try stuff and see what happens in Brooklyn. I remember last year, March 28th, 2025. I forgot a lyric, and I'm like, and I was just open with it too. It's like, you know, we're working this out, people.

SPEAKER_14 1:14:25

That's fair. I and I think that's kind of cool too. It when when it's like something brand new, and it's it's it's also you know, and I I've said this like to like one of my guitarists and stuff, like we're playing the new song, and then it'll go, Well, yeah, we're a little shaky on some parts of this. I was like, Yeah, but nobody knows, yeah, nobody knows. So, like, I was like, if something messes up, oh well, like, no, nobody knows, so it's kind of almost more freeing in that sense.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:54

It's like it's supposed to be like that, absolutely, but you know what's funny. This is like kind of like poetic justice because the line that I forgot, the line after that says it's not a crime if I mess up sometimes. Well, that's perfect, yeah, that's perfect, so it's like yeah, hilarious, but yeah, for sure. Now, like I we rehearse so much um now that it's like you know, being able to sit with songs and being able to get so many shows and reps, it's like if anything, it might be like, Oh yeah, that was the second verse line, you know. Right.

SPEAKER_12 1:15:36

I when I was doing uh music, I did the the whole like three-hour show, you know, minimum 30 plus songs, and it was mostly covers. Yeah, dude. And dude, I mean, I would Hotel California, I just would sing like the same two lines for like four minutes straight. I feel like that is that as long as you name as long as you nail the the chorus in any one, you're good at any bar, dude. They just want to sing along and they don't know half of the verses. But yeah, I think there's sang that first opening like on a dark desert highway.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:17

Just that's great. That's a lot of material, man.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:25

Like, seriously, like I I loved it, but I hated it. Every time I would do it, I was like, This is it's so long, and I was a solo artist, so it was it was so much, and like I had horrible all the way down, like yeah, yeah, all a full acoustic set, and I like had horrible like stage presence. I'm much better now from doing the show, but like he but he nailed it every time. Lindsay my wife Lindsay would be like, You're just like very stiff, and you're like not interacting with anybody because I would literally just go up there, sing my songs, and then I would leave. Um, so I started trying to mix like jokes and stuff in, and uh they weren't they were horrible jokes, they were real.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:09

But I feel like the last time you did that, you got too talkie-dy, and then you did forget the song.

SPEAKER_14 1:17:14

Yes, which is crazy. Yeah, absolutely. That's not always a bad thing, though. The interaction is the part that people are gonna remember, not that he messed up on a lyric and yes, it's true.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:27

The experience, right?

SPEAKER_12 1:17:29

Yeah, that's right, that's right.

SPEAKER_14 1:17:30

Yeah, that's why I just go and bounce up and down as hard as I can and as much as long as I can.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:35

Now you got circles. That's why we have to break your toes, Danny.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:41

That's why I have to Danny. 500 bucks. I'll come over and do it.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:47

Oh man, my mother says that she has well, I don't know. This could be Shiloh, I'm not sure. Somebody in my life says they have a story to tell us.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:55

Uh oh, I think that's Miss Shiloh.

SPEAKER_12 1:17:57

Feel free to type it out and I will read it.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:00

Yeah, I want to hear it. I want to know.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:02

Um Miss Shiloh is 12, by the way. This could be anything. Um, is is her is her parent on because she's 12? Why is she watching a live stream? Yeah, that's everyone go everyone go shame the mom or mom in the chat. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:19

Where's our guardian grade next year? Or what is it? Um what grade is she going into next year? I think fifth, I think.

SPEAKER_17 1:18:28

I think or sixth, something like that. Or sixth grade, something like that. Yeah, that's seven.

SPEAKER_12 1:18:35

I know. Uh you hey, you line them up, we knock them down.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:45

Lindsay said sixth grade.

SPEAKER_12 1:18:46

She knows okay, sixth grade.

SPEAKER_14 1:18:50

Oh man.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:52

She's a good time.

SPEAKER_14 1:18:52

Oh, I just remembered this. This is one thing I completely forgot. And it's not 100%. Oh, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:59

Is it like 85%?

SPEAKER_14 1:19:01

It's like 50-50. You can go either way.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:03

Oh, perfect. I love that you're sharing.

SPEAKER_14 1:19:05

I might be in Virginia with my band in July. Oh, that's awesome. So that's all that's all I can officially say right now. I might also be in northern Virginia in August.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:22

But where are you right now?

SPEAKER_14 1:19:25

New Jersey. Right outside of New York.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:27

Yeah. Oh, wait, yeah, I mean that.

SPEAKER_14 1:19:32

I'm actually in the danger zone because I am three miles from MetLife Stadium, and in I don't know, two weeks, it's just gonna be insanity for a month. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's exciting, though. Yeah, I'll I'll give you the details once I'm able to lock anything in. Because I might actually need to talk to you about potentially going all the way down to where you are. Um, because if the show ends up happening, it is a show. If the show ends up happening, it would be on a Friday. Even even better, yeah. Heck yeah, man. Oh, I'm excited. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:20:11

We will we will talk about it.

SPEAKER_14 1:20:13

Well, we there's a lot of stuff. I I really there's a lot of stuff I really want to say. We got I know we got a lot of stuff planned. Um, Florida's a a place we've been talking about doing like an extended weekender, like flying in on like a Wednesday and leaving on a Sunday type of thing.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:30

Um, I would love to come say hi.

SPEAKER_14 1:20:32

Yeah, because we've got we've got a bunch of friends in Florida. Uh, we also have a band that we met from uh we played an international music festival. Um, we met a band from Puerto Rico, and they're awesome. Like they're so good. I need to tell you about them because I want you guys, I want them on the podcast and stuff because they're just incredible. Um, and they want to play back up here with us again and then potentially like Puerto Rico or Florida. Heck yeah. Yeah, that's fun. Awesome. And I I will absolutely share their stuff with you guys because I think they'll be great for the podcast and stuff too.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:11

And you should also come to Florida.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:14

Yeah, I'm down.

SPEAKER_14 1:21:16

Where are you? You were mentioning Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:18

Are you in are you in New York? No, I'm in I split time between Toledo, Ohio, and uh LA. Oh wow. Yeah, so those are very different.

SPEAKER_14 1:21:29

I feel like very different vibes between those two.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:32

Yeah, for sure. For they definitely are, and Toledo is like pretty much like two miles from like the border, like Detroit's only like 53 miles from here. All right, so yeah. Yeah, but I'm in Toledo right now, at the moment. I'm here.

SPEAKER_12 1:21:51

Now, Taylor and I will be up in Ohio in June.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:55

Oh no, yeah. What dates? Do you know what dates? Um, I've been 16th through the 23rd.

SPEAKER_12 1:22:04

And I will be there the exact same time, possibly a little longer.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:08

Okay, I don't know how factual that is, but it's 16th through the something.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:12

Where are you guys going in Ohio?

SPEAKER_12 1:22:14

Uh that's a great question, Taylor. You want to tell you, I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:18

The Cleveland area. Okay. Cleveland Akron area.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:21

Okay, that's not that. That's uh like two hours. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:22:25

Yeah, I used to play shows up in uh Toledo University University.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:22:31

But yeah, yeah, when we get up that way, I'll I'll shoot you a message. See if you're anywhere close.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:35

Yeah, let me know what's up. Like, I'm we're leaving for we're actually um doing a residency at uh Cedar Point. No, we did that, yeah. But we're doing one this time at King's Dominion.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:52

Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. Oh, very cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:54

Virginia.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:55

That's actually closer. I remember going to King's Dominion when I was there I went there as a kid too.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:01

It's like some giant 75-foot stage in front of that Eiffel Tower, I guess. We're playing there. So when is that? That's like we're gonna be there for a minute. We're gonna be there the 18th is the first show through I think July 7th.

SPEAKER_13 1:23:18

Oh, okay. Wow, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:21

And then we come back and do an America 250 festival in Ohio, and then this Black Leavit thing, and then we go to North Carolina to do another Six Flags residency, and then go to LA to play. Hopefully, I'm getting on this thing, but I'm I'm going to El back to the West Coast to play some stuff. So yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:46

Um, yeah, when you when you come to King's Dominion, I'll definitely see you. We have never been to King's Dominion yet.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:53

You haven't been to King's Dominion.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:55

Not yet, not yet. I've only been to Busch Gardens. We always drive by it, and we're like, we should go there.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:00

We haven't gone yet, so yeah, we're gonna be post it up for a few weeks, which will be cool.

SPEAKER_14 1:24:07

That's awesome. Yeah, I haven't been to King's Dominion forever, but like little kid Danny remembers King's Dominion, right?

SPEAKER_12 1:24:16

I was a Cedar Point kid growing up, Cedar Point and uh Kennywood. Yeah, we Cedar Point, yes, yes, we yeah, we're related, guys.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:26

You didn't know.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:27

Wait, you're related?

SPEAKER_08 1:24:29

Who are thought? I think we're distant cousins.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:32

This is the most Taylor has talked on a podcast with other people since we've done the show. That in itself is very special.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:40

Right. Um I'm sure I see. I love to chat, I love to sit and chat. I want to hear about everyone's lives, you know.

SPEAKER_14 1:24:49

What are you gonna do for it for episode 200? You gotta top this well. I'm glad you brought it up.

SPEAKER_07 1:24:55

I'm glad you said something, Danny. Does Danny know?

SPEAKER_12 1:24:59

I don't think so. No one knows. This will be the first time announcing it. Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:05

Um, are we in it right now?

SPEAKER_12 1:25:07

Yeah, funny enough, Ryan Cabrera

Episode 200 Reveal With Ryan Cabrera

SPEAKER_12 1:25:10

is coming back on the show, everybody. Third time's a charm. So, yeah, we're gonna hang out with Ryan. We're gonna do some uh some special giveaways. I've got uh episode 200 merch that we're gonna put up for a little bit of time.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:25

Do you think Ryan's baby will be on the show? And then your baby and Ryan's baby can have a baby podcast.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:30

Possibly, that would be fun. That would be amazing. That would be amazing.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:34

I want to, yeah, that's what I want. I want a baby podcast. I want them both to have microphones because I know podcasts, baby podcast.

SPEAKER_12 1:25:42

I know your little guy has a lot to say all the time, and we haven't confirmed it yet, but there might be a special performance. Wow, nice. So, anyways, that's that's episode 200, guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:57

It's gonna be it's gonna be big, and a baby is that too.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:03

Oh you're so we need you for marketing. That's the yeah. Can Adam come on and do a do a set?

SPEAKER_12 1:26:10

Yeah, I think so. If he wants to, he he's part of book. The the yeah, the issue is having a toddler, it's when he's tired, he's just tired. You you can't you gotta work with his time, yes, yes, you should and our show is right around bedtime.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:28

So unfortunately, you know what you should do, you should have him do it earlier than day, record it, and then you can play the recording.

SPEAKER_12 1:26:36

Oh, that's a good idea. Maybe we do that. That's a good idea.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:38

Yeah, but make sure he has sunglasses and preferably a little a little cuppy of milk. So you can party it up.

SPEAKER_12 1:26:46

Um, let me show you guys. I want to show you another video here.

unknown 1:26:50

Hey.

SPEAKER_12 1:26:51

I have I have some good. Let's see. Oh, here we go. So those of you who don't know the show super well, um, might not know that we started this show for one reason and one reason only. Taylor, you want to tell the people why we started the show?

SPEAKER_08 1:27:08

I can share, I get to share. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:27:12

It's your show too.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:14

Yeah, I know, but I love the reason why we started because y'all you have to go back to your roots, you know what I mean? You have to think about where you started and why you started it. There is one band in this world who well, multiple bands, but like one band that Harley and I are like we love so much. Lindsay too, right? Yeah, yeah, I was in Lindsay 2. And we started because we wanted to get them on the show. That was like our end goal. And we were like, when we get them on the show, we'll stop. And that is the one and only AJR.

SPEAKER_12 1:27:48

Yes, we are diehard AJR fans. Taylor, I love when Taylor explains it because her explanation is very beautiful, and mine is far more devious and cynical. What actually Happened is we arrived to an AJR show uh four and a half hours early. And we were we were like, Man, I wish that we had gotten the VIP experience. And then we were like, it's so expensive. How can we get a VIP experience for free? So we had four hours to sit and figure it out, and we determined the easiest way to do that is to start a podcast where we interview musicians, then every episode is a VIP experience. Yes, we had no idea that we were gonna end up actually loving doing this. We had we had no credentials, no experience to speak. It was just a couple of siblings with a microphone. Microphone in a dream, and now we have met some of the most incredible people, like Shavar and Danny, and so many others, and found so many incredible artists and bands that we love. And most of my music catalog is thanks to this show now. And now I get to experience and and show other people new bands that they haven't heard of. And I love this show, and I love what we do, and I love what I bring to the world through interviewing you guys and just having fun talking to my friends. I've made great friendships through this show.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:24

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_07 1:29:26

I love this life.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:28

Yeah, that's so that's so cool. We've got to figure out when one of these big festivals come through to like get the festival or pay you guys to come out and do your lot. That would be awesome. That would be awesome.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:40

That'd be so cool. Gosh, give me a microphone and a suit. I'm out there.

SPEAKER_14 1:29:46

I have them somewhere. I'll show you suits when I can when I can find them. No, well, I have a suit. Uh I have one for everything. Um, no, they have the little it's the little road box like microphones that you can clip on and stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah. The little lab mics, yeah. Yeah, well, but they're like a box, and you can you get two to a set, so you can for you guys you would have and then you get what Taylor doesn't know is I have that.

SPEAKER_12 1:30:12

I actually have an entire live road ready bag right next to me. Nice anytime we get offered to do live events.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:20

Uh, because that's incredible.

SPEAKER_12 1:30:22

I unfortunately, when I have ideas like this, I go big. So in my head, I was like, Oh, well, we're gonna be playing festivals and like hosting events. We need to be ready. So I have the bag that I've only used once.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:40

So it's already ready. You're already that's right. I'm prepared. That's right. We're living in the present.

SPEAKER_12 1:30:48

But no, I'm super thankful for everything we've done. I'm super thankful to have been able to do 200 weeks in a row. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_17 1:30:55

That's yeah, that's amazing.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:57

In a inner row was you're very loose, very loose. Very loose. Now, now we did three years strong. We did three years strong interaction.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:06

Actually, Taylor, the day that we came home from the hospital with Adam. I had you and McKenna do a podcast for me that I monitored from the other room.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:17

This is true. Gosh, I love that girl.

SPEAKER_17 1:31:20

So yeah, yeah, that's so amazing.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:24

Damn, very, very happy with everything we've accomplished and all the people we've met, and uh, you know, the growth and everything. It's been awesome. Truly, it's been awesome. Like, so many times I I meet incredible artists like you guys, and I'm like, man, I I have no like who am I to sit down with, you know what I mean, and talk to you guys. Like, truly, like, that's the experience that I have constantly. And uh it's I'm very thankful that I get to do it, but like genuinely, I came into this with no credentials, and you guys have all been so

Why The Podcast Started In The First Place

SPEAKER_12 1:31:55

nice to me and gave me the time of day and let me ask my ridiculous questions. Yes, you know, it's it's been very, very cool to get to like learn and love music more through this. So amazing, anyways.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:11

I also like the record of our show, we still don't have credentials.

SPEAKER_12 1:32:15

No, that's not true. Now we have credentials, Taylor. We do, uh we are certified music journalists. Well, I am a certified music journalist journalist. You if you want me to make you one, yeah. Yeah, but like people report on us on the internet as music journalists, like yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:32:39

Yeah, can I add it to my resume? That's cool.

SPEAKER_12 1:32:42

If you would like to, I I would.

SPEAKER_14 1:32:44

I mean, if you have a website, there's there's a record of it, yeah. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_12 1:32:50

Whoa, well, I mean, well, let the here are two people that we have interviewed, Taylor, sitting next to us right now. Do they consider us music journalists? It's their career.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:00

Yeah, I put you guys as my what's it called at the end?

SPEAKER_15 1:33:04

Reference? References, yeah. I'm down for it.

SPEAKER_14 1:33:09

Yes, put put us both as your references on your on your reference.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:15

Do it. I'm down.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:17

Tell them it's great.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:20

But what's so cool too is just like everyone's just love of music, and that's what really brings us all together, you know. It's like just hanging out, this is amazing, you know, like talking with other passionate people that just love music, you know.

SPEAKER_14 1:33:36

So, yeah, yeah, and I mean loving music, yes, that's what connects us all, but like just being able to goof off and talk about anything, exactly the human experience, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:48

Oh, yeah, exactly. And I feel like there's like I don't know, there's like a a safety sometimes, and with people you know that love music to like you know you can kind of be more open, you know. So about whatever it is, yeah, not even talking about music, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:08

Oh Faith, thank you for saying I get a deputy star. I think that was meant for me. And if you could make me one, that'd be pretty cool. I'll send you my address. Ask, ask your dad for my phone number. We'll talk.

SPEAKER_12 1:34:20

What's what's been also really cool is like um not just learning about new music, but being able to express my love in music and like develop a better vocabulary about it. Yeah, being able to talk about music on on a relatively high professional scale, you know what I mean? Because realistically coming into this, um I shot for the stars, and there are a handful of interviews that I look back on now that I think I would love to be able to go back and do those over with the knowledge of music that I have now, um, because I feel like I did those artists a disservice by coming in uninformed and unintelligent about what I was talking about. Um, specifically, like Danny, when your band comes back on, like uh it's gonna be a completely different show. There's so much more depth to go through now.

SPEAKER_14 1:35:11

Well, we had a lot of I told you like I think I told you in five minutes after the show, like that was so much fun. Let's do it again. Let's do it again. Yeah, we were just we were just gooping off. I I will say this uh everyone who's in the band now would absolutely love to do it. And I already told them that you know, we're I like I said we're trying to inch our way down to Virginia Beach so that we could do something in person because yeah, everybody is like that like big bright upbeat in person. So, like I I don't even know if like the camera really gets all of that. Right, right type of thing. So absolutely, we definitely want to we we want to be there in person if as soon as we can make it happen. So uh back to Virginia, yes, to fly in some money.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:59

I'm scared of planes.

SPEAKER_12 1:36:00

I'm scared earlier on the show. We we listened to Shavar's new song, Danny, and I have an urge to listen to Autumn Solver if you'll let me.

SPEAKER_14 1:36:14

You are more than welcome to.

SPEAKER_12 1:36:16

Yes, I love that song so much. I love that whole album personally. Um, can I pick a different song? Would wouldn't that be okay? Yes, totally. Okay, all right, all right.

SPEAKER_14 1:36:28

You're asking me for permission, you can listen to anything. The only thing you can't play is anything in secret that I've said, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, it has to be on Spotify.

SPEAKER_12 1:36:39

No, there's another song on here that I actually prefer more than Autumn's Over, but Autumn's Over is a fantastic.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:48

Yes, I'm so excited. I don't know if it's because I was so sick and like I just have a newfound love of life, but I am genuinely having a great time, guys. I need everyone to know that.

SPEAKER_12 1:36:59

This song I found a new look for um when we started doing our podcast and we were looking into intros.

SPEAKER_13 1:37:07

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:07

And I I had heard this song before because I have the album downloaded, but I never really gave it enough like experience, like listen and punk rock retirement. Ah, I was gonna ask something you were gonna love punk rock retirement. So let's listen to that, guys. So I'm gonna go ahead and throw that up real quick. We're gonna give it a quick listen here. Punk rock retirement by just happy to be here. Hold on one second. I messed up. I forgot to share sound.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:43

Faith, if you're still on,

Playing “Punk Rock Retirement” Live

SPEAKER_08 1:37:45

I think you and I are gonna become best friends.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:48

There we go. Here we go.

unknown 1:37:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 1:37:55

Does anybody else talk while they do everything?

SPEAKER_08 1:37:58

Yes. Yeah. You hate an awkward silence. Me too.

SPEAKER_12 1:38:02

All right. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_09 1:38:03

I sing the national anthem personally, but this Pokemon retirement is not for me. It's for everyone else. We did 2003.

SPEAKER_12 1:41:12

That is Punk Ret Punk Rock Retirement by the band Just Happy to Be Here.

SPEAKER_14 1:41:22

I I am so happy that that you picked that one because it's really funny. I have so many stories about that song, but we never talk about them because that wasn't the single from that EP. Right. So like to tell. Well, there's so that chorus is probably my favorite chorus just because it goes dun, dunun, dun dun, dun dun, dun. I always wanted it like over and over again as many times as we could do it. And if you notice, we only do it one time. The second chorus gets cut really quick. Um, so I was like, I was really sad about that. And then to cheer me up, there is a backing vocal from Dane, our guitar, our original guitarist, who's since left the band uh for work reasons. Like he's still a really good friend, he still helps out with some newer, newer material and stuff like that. He helps us like gives us ideas or or refine some of our ideas, and he's really cool. Um, but uh there's a backing vocal that he did just to make me laugh. And now, because he's not in the band, Justin does it just to make me laugh. And every single time he does, because I don't expect it, it's the the yeah, yeah, just like when I'm holding out something, and it makes I swear they do it at live shows, and now everybody else in the band still does it, like just to throw me off because I'll laugh every single time. But we had to call it punk rock retirement, uh, because Dane was kind of the one who had like the original idea for the song. Um, because he went to like a punk rock flea market, and that's why it had to be called punk rock retirement, because he saw these old aging punk rockers, and he was like, I don't want that to be us, like type of thing. Because I was like, pop punk retirement sounds exactly the same. Can we just do that? He goes, No, it was at a punk rock flea market, it has to be punk rock retirement, we have to leave it this way. Um, yeah, and that was it was such a fun song to to collaborate, and even the the beginning with all of the the different voices, like the a cappella part. We were like, What what are we doing here? Like, because you know, it's it's so goofy and over the top. Like, I think we recorded like eight different tracks for that just that part to what are we doing for this thought?

SPEAKER_12 1:43:39

But uh, yes, Taylor, you have uh you have a question there.

SPEAKER_08 1:43:43

What now? I'm sure that I know what this is, but I don't know if Harley and Shabard do. Um, what is a punk rock flea market?

SPEAKER_14 1:43:53

You've never had you don't have punk rock flea markets. They have I have a flea market, they have they have some in New York City, they have some in Asbury, they have some in uh like Atlantic City. Like it's it and maybe it's like a Jersey, New York thing. I just thought it was a regular thing.

SPEAKER_08 1:44:10

Do you buy punk rock people?

SPEAKER_12 1:44:13

No, you can't buy people, Taylor.

SPEAKER_08 1:44:15

No, I didn't think so.

SPEAKER_14 1:44:16

I thought we were punking. I think in most of the world that's illegal. That's illegal, but it's it's really cool. It's like a bunch of indie, like you know, there might be like a booth that's like they make buttons, but they make you know music-related buttons, and so it's like punk rock bands will will have like a ton of old punk rock and vintage stuff, and it'll be like you know, leather spiky coats and belts, and and in another booth, vests, and yeah, it's it is such a fun experience, other than the I guess other than the one that our original guitarist Dane went to and thought of that idea for the song. Um, but and for some reason the sex pistols are at all of them. I don't know how they get there. Exactly. At Cartaman, they're just uh but yeah, when we were actually talking about um a single to release for that EP, that was that was one of the ones that I picked. I didn't pick Autumn's Over. Like, what's what's even crazier is there is a uh parallel universe where Autumn's Over was not on the the EP. If things had not gone the way they went, there was gonna be another song on the EP and because Autumn's Over wasn't done yet.

SPEAKER_12 1:45:24

So now that being said, um everybody watching, when you check out Just Happy to Be Here, tell me that I'm wrong when I say this, but Autumn's Over is absolutely on my Christmas playlist every year. That is a Christmas song, it's a Christmas song. You wrote the the what's her name? Uh uh who's the Christmas Queen, Mariah Carey. Mariah Carey. You wrote the the like pop punk Mariah Carey song. Like it's a Christmas song in every sense of the word.

SPEAKER_14 1:46:01

We did well, it's it's definitely a winter song. I don't know if it's a Christmas song. It's definitely a winter song. I appreciate we'll sell ornaments, we'll we'll make a limited number of ornaments.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:16

We should. That's like super dope, actually.

SPEAKER_08 1:46:19

Like you absolutely should.

SPEAKER_14 1:46:21

Well, you've you've heard the the Christmas cover we did. The Christmas cover we did

Punk Rock Flea Markets And Holiday Lore

SPEAKER_14 1:46:25

on their Christmas, yeah. Yeah, that's will always be like my personal favorite Christmas song because I heard it when I was a little kid. I have I had no idea what this was about or anything like that. Um, but it just like I got introduced to it from my dad who showed me all these weird, bizarre Christmas songs. Like, there's a ton of them that were just like really off. And he actually recorded them. I remember like some of my like core memories are my dad had like cassette tapes that were so old that they're I at this point they probably disintegrated, but they just he recorded them off of the radio and and everything, and we would play them like while we were decorating and stuff. And I was like five years old, and we were playing them, and and that was one of the songs. I mean, it had stuff like you know, Chipmunks Christmas song on it and stuff like that. But I always remembered Father Christmas, and I always said, like when once I started a band, I was like, I'm going to I'm going to cover that one day. And it was like the secret. I actually didn't tell him until we had it recorded and and mixed already. And then I sent it to him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:47:30

So yeah, wait, that's really cool. Autumn's over is my Christmas song. I I appreciate it. I'm not gonna argue with it. I appreciate it. Well, so it's it's literally when it comes on, like I'll have it, I'll it'll play on my on my shuffle when I'm in the car. And I immediately think of Christmas every time. As soon as it starts, I'm like, damn, that is Christmas to me.

SPEAKER_14 1:47:53

You know what's fun is and not a lot of people have had a chance to experience this. We don't do Christmas shows that often. We do we we do them some years, but then everybody gets really weary because so close to the holidays, everybody nobody wants to get sick. And that came from one of our very first shows ever, was a holiday show, and all of us got COVID. So we all had a quarantine through the holidays, and it was a miserable experience. So everybody has flashbacks of that, so we just really space it far out. Um, but we used to do uh for with the lights on around Christmas time, we do with the Christmas lights on, and so there is there's like limited merch out that has like with the lights on and has the string of Christmas lights on it and stuff.

SPEAKER_12 1:48:38

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_07 1:48:39

That's so fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:40

Uh I show you guys something related to all of us. It ties in the trivia question, too.

SPEAKER_15 1:48:52

Oh that's awesome, totally new one, new uh ornament. But I've had this since I was a kid, really, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:49:04

So that's incredible. You just had that on hand.

SPEAKER_10 1:49:07

That is pretty incredible.

SPEAKER_08 1:49:09

Yeah, amazing. Gosh, I bet that's worth a bajillion dollars, too.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:17

Yeah, I don't know, but I I don't know. It's one of the things I've been able to hold on to out of the many things that I lost over the years.

SPEAKER_12 1:49:27

Uh, are you guys all uh Jimi Hendrix fans? Obviously, Shavar Dante is, but Danny, you uh a Jimi Hendrix fan?

SPEAKER_14 1:49:35

Yeah, I mean growing up, my dad, I mean, I got really like and I've said I've said this to you, and I know I think I might have said it in the interview that we actually had a long time ago at this point. Um, I got really lucky growing up. Like my dad showed me everything rock classic rock, modern rock, and then I kind of shifted towards pop, uh like punk rock, scott, and then pop punk, and then I showed my dad pop punk, and now he loves. Story So Far is like one of his favorite bands. A data remembers one of his favorite bands. Like, I got him into that stuff, and he got me into all the original stuff. So it was like really cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:08

So that's super cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:50:11

What is the most overrated Jimi Hendrix song? Not your favorite. The one that you're like, that song's not that good, and they play it a lot.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:23

Oh no, that's that's tough. My favorite songs aren't even the main songs people listen to, though, to be honest.

SPEAKER_11 1:50:31

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:34

I think my favorite song is a song on the first album, May This Be Love. And it's like this like later track that's like kind of a chill one.

SPEAKER_12 1:50:46

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:50:48

I actually don't know that album.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:51

Yeah, R You Experience, that first one. Yeah, there's some that one is.

SPEAKER_12 1:50:55

Oh, R You Experience. Oh, okay. Oh, oh, that's the name of the song. I actually don't know that song.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:00

Yeah. May This Be Love. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:03

Oh. It might be it might be one of those ones where you've heard it, but you just don't remember.

SPEAKER_08 1:51:09

Yeah, that could be a story of my life.

SPEAKER_12 1:51:13

For me, it's um it's all along a watchtower. I think that's a a heavily overrated song in general, but I feel like the Jimi Hendrix, I'm gonna say version right now, even though you know there's a lot of versions of that song, but um his version of that song I feel like is just more overplayed on classic rock stations.

SPEAKER_15 1:51:40

Yeah, first from part.

SPEAKER_12 1:51:42

Yeah, and it's a great song. Like, truly, it is a great song, it's got an incredible guitar solo in it, but like I could go with that. I would prefer to listen to like Castle's Made of Sand all day long.

SPEAKER_08 1:51:52

Oh, that's my favorite Jimi Hendrix song.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:55

Are you on are you uh looking at Spotify right now? Because oh yeah, uh, all along the watchtower is actually number one in popularity. Is it really? Wait, 858 million in change for streams.

SPEAKER_12 1:52:11

I mean, people love that song. It's a good song, like and that guitar solo is sick.

SPEAKER_08 1:52:16

What's crazy if you're gonna say it, stand 10 toes down.

SPEAKER_14 1:52:20

What's crazy is second song, second most popular song, half as many plays.

SPEAKER_15 1:52:26

Oh, really? What is it? Purple Haze. Purple Haze. I figured it's that one.

SPEAKER_14 1:52:31

But that's such a crazy margin of like one to the other. I did I I would have I would have put purple haze like 1A, 1B, like as far as popularity of that song.

SPEAKER_12 1:52:43

You hear the I think I think it's probably because they put Watchtower in a so many movies, especially like the the tail end of the first verse leading into that guitar solo. That plays in anytime you see a movie with Vietnam in it, like oh yeah, every time. Every time.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:00

Yeah, it's like that and like CCR.

SPEAKER_12 1:53:03

CCR, yeah. It's all always, always sometimes back to back.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:08

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:12

We just make like a war movie soundtrack at this point. I think they did. I think it's the Forrest Gump soundtrack. Yeah, I think you're not wrong.

SPEAKER_12 1:53:23

Uh another fantastic movie. I love that movie. Great movie. Forrest Gump.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:29

Oh, Little Wing, Hey Joe, Boodo Child.

SPEAKER_12 1:53:32

Oh, yeah, yeah. Little Wing's great. Okay, yeah, that man, that's Hey Joe's another one, though, that I could kind of go without. You know, it's a it's a fun song, but like Yeah, but for sure.

SPEAKER_08 1:53:48

Yeah, what's the song Hey Jude? Is that the Beatles?

SPEAKER_12 1:53:50

That's the Beatles. Do we like the Beatles here? What's our opinion about the Beatles?

SPEAKER_15 1:53:56

I do for sure.

SPEAKER_12 1:53:56

I do. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:00

I have a question for the crowd, and this is live, so this is gonna be great. How do we how do we feel about Helen Keller?

SPEAKER_02 1:54:07

Oh god, Helen Keller.

SPEAKER_12 1:54:12

Yes, yes, Shawar. Taylor here is what you would call no a Helen Keller denier.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:23

No, no, she existed. See, this is this is where this is where we get the the whole she's real. I'm not saying she's not real.

SPEAKER_12 1:54:32

Come on, let's litigate it. Let's do it.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:35

She just didn't do what they say she did.

SPEAKER_12 1:54:37

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_14 1:54:38

It's crazy. But here's the thing is the only person, but but here's the thing. Like, I feel like there's you you find that out about a lot of I don't even know if I can I can call her a historic figure. Is that fair to say you find that out like where you know they kind of add on as the the decades go on, type of thing. Like you thank you. I don't think I I'm not blaming Helen Keller for that though.

SPEAKER_08 1:55:07

Like I just I just don't think I don't think she wrote books.

SPEAKER_12 1:55:14

So listen, so listen.

SPEAKER_11 1:55:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_12 1:55:16

The only the only thing, the only thing that I can common, like find common ground is we did read a story about them saying that Helen Keller flew a plane. We immediately we immediately debunked that story because she technically, technically, she flew a plane, but there was a pilot that brought her from the cabin up to the front, similar to like if you have a kid on a plane and they go up to the cockpit. That kid can now say he flew a plane, you know what I mean? Like she took the controls for a few minutes on a plane.

SPEAKER_11 1:55:52

That I will give you a stretch.

SPEAKER_14 1:55:55

Whoa, but when did this happen? Because we're planes are basically giant computers now.

SPEAKER_07 1:56:03

That is true.

SPEAKER_14 1:56:04

But like if you think about it, like how long ago was this? Because if you're taking the controls, you may be manually flying a plate.

SPEAKER_12 1:56:11

You would be very interested to know. This is a fun little game we played, too.

SPEAKER_08 1:56:14

This is a fun game. So, okay.

SPEAKER_12 1:56:16

When when do you think Helen Keller lived, guys? Tell me how long ago do you think Helen Keller was?

SPEAKER_08 1:56:23

She she passed away in 1968.

SPEAKER_12 1:56:26

Oh, you weren't supposed to tell them.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:27

Like, yeah, I was gonna say, I thought it was late 1800s.

SPEAKER_12 1:56:31

Yeah, that's the thing, is like when you think of Helen Keller, you think of her as like the 1800s or like like the early 20s, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_14 1:56:39

Yeah, I was more gonna say like uh 1910, 1920.

SPEAKER_10 1:56:45

She didn't pass away until 1968.

SPEAKER_14 1:56:48

Wow.

SPEAKER_15 1:56:49

Yeah before TikTok. This was crazy. That now here's my thing.

SPEAKER_08 1:56:57

Here's my thing, and here's what I'm going to say. I'm going to defend myself a little bit. I don't know how much you guys know about Helen Keller. I did a big deep dive. It's kind of a whole thing. I got on the wrong side of TikTok. Like it's a whole thing.

SPEAKER_14 1:57:11

Your algorithm sounds weird.

SPEAKER_12 1:57:16

Helen Keller denier videos, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson.

SPEAKER_08 1:57:23

So she got an illness when she was, I want to say it was like a year, year and a half old.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:30

I think. I remember I think she was like 19 months or something.

SPEAKER_08 1:57:34

Yes, yeah, like 19 months old.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:57:37

And that's when she had lost like her vision and her hearing. Now that like she died in 1968, so I think she was born in what? Like 1920.

SPEAKER_17 1:57:50

I think she was born in 18, late 1800s. Like late, yeah, I think late 1800s actually. 1880, maybe.

SPEAKER_08 1:58:00

So how much did doctors know back then? Yes, 1880.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:06

1880, June.

SPEAKER_08 1:58:09

You know.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:58:11

It's like how much did they know? And also, did they test her as she got older? Here's my thing. Here's my thing. I think she wasn't fully deaf. I think she was fully blind, but hearing is like the last thing to go. And I think they caught her illness, like they were able to treat it. I don't think she was fully deaf. What did she think she what did she get?

SPEAKER_14 1:58:32

Like, what did she have?

SPEAKER_08 1:58:34

Umitis.

SPEAKER_12 1:58:37

Oh, I don't remember. She had a high fever, leaving her totally deaf and blind. Doctors that diagnosed it at the time as a brain fever. Experts today believe she suffered from scarlet fever or meningitis.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:53

Or meningitis. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:58:55

So it's like, was she fully deaf? Because here's sorry, I'm very passionate about this. She like I understand teaching her sign language in her hand. I get that. But also, how did she know what those were? Like, that's my whole thing. Like, you can sign ball all you want, but like, how do you know what a ball is? Do you know what I'm saying? Without being able to like visually see the ball.

SPEAKER_12 1:59:20

Here's how I discredit this entire argument. We have videos of this woman. This was she died in 1968. She conversed with people for a very, very long time.

SPEAKER_08 1:59:31

I'm saying she's real.

SPEAKER_12 1:59:32

But hear me out. If she wasn't fully deaf at some point in time in her life, you don't think she would have signed to somebody and said, Hey, just so you know, I can slightly hear you. I don't think so. Can we maybe fixing this?

SPEAKER_08 1:59:51

I think she was in 2D. You don't think you're crazy? You're crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:59

Oh man.

SPEAKER_08 2:00:00

Anyways, that's my icebreaker. I should have started out at the beginning.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:05

She's like, she's too invested. This is like an episode of curve. She's like

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SPEAKER_02 2:00:10

too invested to learn what enough.

SPEAKER_08 2:00:17

I I do, I do think she was real. I do think that she did, like, I do think that she learned these things. I I genuinely, though, I genuinely don't think she was fully deaf. I think she was like very, very, very deaf. Don't get me wrong. Do you know what I mean? Like, but I think there's a little part that, like, if you yelled loud enough, I think she could probably hear she wouldn't be able to understand what you're saying.

SPEAKER_12 2:00:37

She never learned that language.

SPEAKER_08 2:00:40

Unless they figured out she wasn't fully deaf, and that's how they taught her. I just need to know like what the test was back in the 1800s. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think about how much we've progressed since then.

SPEAKER_12 2:00:54

I mean, I guess, but even then, like imagine, Taylor, Taylor, imagine that you woke up one day and you couldn't see out of your eyes.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:05

I were in contacts, buddy. That's my life.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:07

Hold on, hold on. You you don't think that you would spend the rest of your life insisting to everyone you come in contact with to try and fix your eyes? You think she wanted to live that life?

SPEAKER_08 2:01:21

I don't know if she had a choice. That's what it was the 1800s. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:24

By the time we probably had the technology, she's probably saying here, what you're saying here is that her parents not only realized that she could, in fact, still hear, but were able to use that to teach her and not not English, but an entire different language that she invented.

SPEAKER_08 2:01:53

Um guys, this is my favorite topic. I bring it up like once a week. I need everyone to know that. And it's so I also for everyone watching, it's so unserious. It really is.

SPEAKER_12 2:02:05

I just think I just think that it might have been a lot easier to teach her English, maybe, instead of inventing a new language. Did they if they knew she could hear?

SPEAKER_08 2:02:17

When did Braille come about? Do we know?

SPEAKER_12 2:02:19

I'm 90% sure that it was Helen Keller.

SPEAKER_08 2:02:25

You're not gonna tell me she made Braille too. Oh, sorry, that was dramatic. I didn't mean to hit my hand on our lots of game down.

SPEAKER_14 2:02:36

Allegedly, is what the uh other Chris said.

SPEAKER_07 2:02:39

That's so funny if she did. If she did, I I will ten toes down Helen Keller's wild.

SPEAKER_12 2:02:46

It was invented 50 years prior to her birth. Braille was wow, but she did Braille was invent some sort of a language. Sorry, I'd have to read the 50s.

SPEAKER_08 2:03:02

Well, it wasn't it wasn't sign language, right? Like that, I feel like that's that was before her time too.

SPEAKER_12 2:03:10

So they they taught her how to communicate um with like sounds at first, and then they they taught her. How is she hearing the sounds? No, they taught her to communicate using sounds. They train her like a dog, yes, basically, but Taylor, I'm a parent, and I'm here to tell you that training a child is a lot like training a dog. Teaching language to a kid is a lot like teaching a dog a new trick.

SPEAKER_08 2:03:43

I I feel like I've found out a lot about everybody today.

SPEAKER_14 2:03:49

And that's the most important thing.

SPEAKER_08 2:03:52

You want to do wild. We all learned something. I I do I do bring this up. I think it's really funny to bring up because it really is wild. I got on that side of TikTok. It is pretty crazy. Like, it's crazy that I got on that.

SPEAKER_12 2:04:04

Not only is it crazy, it's kind of scary how quickly you can like find a video and just be like, Well, this is what I believe now.

SPEAKER_08 2:04:10

This is what I believe, but it's also like the amount of people who are younger than me, and not much younger, I mean like 18, 19, who just don't know who Helen Keller is, is wild to me. Like, I brought it up to someone and they're like, Is that a fictional character?

SPEAKER_14 2:04:27

And I said, Depending on who you ask, could be this could be uh uh an entire episode, is just stating asking everybody what year they thought something happened or something was invented, or a person was was born. Because it in my brain, I was way off on yeah, that's when we look we we actually did this on an episode.

SPEAKER_12 2:04:53

We had this, we ended up having to do another 30 minutes talking about this because it was a very deep conversation, but like but like when I looked it up that day, I was baffled because I also was like, This was prior to like videos, this was black and white photos at best, and it had the guy with the big thing, and he's like you know, you had to stand there, yeah. That's what I was thinking, but this woman 45 minutes this woman lived long enough to witness Jimi Hendrix, like yeah, that's wild, like in a stay day. And when when I thought about it and we we did the show, I was like, Yeah, like Lindsay's mother was alive for Helen Keller, like our stepfather was eight when she died, right? That's what I'm saying. Like, it is crazy how shortly ago that was because it does feel

The Helen Keller Rabbit Hole Debate

SPEAKER_12 2:05:45

so long ago, crazy, yeah.

SPEAKER_17 2:05:48

No kidding, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 2:05:51

Oh, it's wild to me. I also definitely had someone think that Helen Keller was Amelia Earhart.

SPEAKER_12 2:05:57

That's also funny, and I think that's really funny.

SPEAKER_08 2:06:00

And then I I said that and I was like, no, and then they're like, Okay, well, then I don't know who Amelia Earhart is, and I said, Well, that's worse. I'd rather you know who Amelia Earhart is.

SPEAKER_12 2:06:09

I definitely have confused pictures of um Anne Frank with pictures of Helen Keller.

SPEAKER_08 2:06:16

Yeah, do you mean yeah, not on purpose, but like man enough to say it though, huh?

SPEAKER_12 2:06:23

But like like I saw a picture, I was watching a video. Uh I forget what it was. It was like two people like naming like historic figures, and they would pull up the picture in the middle, right? And it was a picture of Ann Frank, and I was like, Oh, Helen Keller, and I was like, Oh man, I was so wrong.

SPEAKER_08 2:06:40

Pre-malone is pro-Helen Keller.

SPEAKER_12 2:06:43

Thank you. Fun Helen Keller, but also pro-Helen Keller, like, yeah, she exists.

SPEAKER_08 2:06:47

I agree, she exists. I just nah that's not how she did all the things or said, like, like, I I think the book thing was the lady who taught her how to do it. I think I think it was a money grab for her.

SPEAKER_09 2:07:03

I think it was.

SPEAKER_12 2:07:04

Oh man. Well, everybody, that was 199 episodes, guys.

SPEAKER_08 2:07:12

Chris Chris said that she could have hooked up with Hugh Hefner.

SPEAKER_12 2:07:16

She could have.

unknown 2:07:17

That's great.

SPEAKER_08 2:07:18

It could have been a Playboy money for all man. That I believe.

SPEAKER_12 2:07:27

Uh oh, Danny Shavar. Thank you guys so much for hanging out today. I was so excited to have you guys on the next.

SPEAKER_07 2:07:38

Let's make this the new podcast.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:41

This was a lot of fun. We'll definitely have to like have a reunion. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Reunion is great.

SPEAKER_12 2:07:48

That'll be fun. Um, this this has been 199 episodes of doing this. Next week is 200 weeks of this show, and we couldn't have done it without everybody that listens and watches, and um all of all of our amazing guests and artists, and and yeah, it wouldn't be possible without everybody involved. So um Danny from the band Just Happy to Be Here and The Dark Side of Music with me. What's the name of your podcast? Oh, uh That Recap Show. That recap show.

SPEAKER_15 2:08:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12 2:08:24

Every time you've said that, I thought you were telling me like what it was about.

SPEAKER_14 2:08:29

I was just about to say that's where the title came from, to be completely honest. It was just like, oh, you know, like how they do those those recap shows, and I was like, that's what I want to do for the show. And I was trying to think of a name, and I was like, That recap show is perfect.

SPEAKER_12 2:08:44

Literally, I've been looking for it and looking for it, and I was like, I can't, I can't find it. I was like googling your name and typing in podcasts, and I was like, I can't find it, and every time you kept saying, Y'all, the that recap show, and I said I was like, Does he not know the name of his own show?

SPEAKER_14 2:09:08

I just figured it's easier to Google that or search that, and then accidentally somebody stumbles on the show.

SPEAKER_12 2:09:14

So 100%. You're absolutely right. I'm just dumb.

SPEAKER_08 2:09:20

That's so funny.

SPEAKER_12 2:09:22

Oh man, uh, Shavar Dante. Everybody, check out Shavar Dante. Incredible music. Is so incredible music. Very cool. Um, thank you guys again so much for being on the show. I I do have to go because I promised my wife I'd be done by nine.

SPEAKER_08 2:09:39

So oh, I'm so sorry. I I brought up a hard-hitting topic at the end. I wasn't even looking at it.

SPEAKER_14 2:09:44

It's all your fault denying Helen Keller at the end.

SPEAKER_08 2:09:48

It normally is hard.

SPEAKER_12 2:09:49

Honestly, this is the most Taylor has ever been involved in this show, and I'm so happy to see it.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:56

And now you're gonna have me on TikTok looking up this Helen Keller.

SPEAKER_14 2:10:01

All of our phones already heard it. The next time you're scrolling on TikTok, that's coming up. Exactly.

SPEAKER_12 2:10:08

All right, guys, thanks again. It has been real. Thanks everybody for coming on. Thank you guys a great time. And it is the Hook and Bridge podcast. Peace out, everybody.

SPEAKER_08 2:10:19

Love you too, Chris. I just saw the message.