March 23, 2026

When Pop Punk Gets Personal: Interview With July Crowd

When Pop Punk Gets Personal: Interview With July Crowd

Send in your music story! A lot of music interviews stay on the surface. We didn’t. Dom from July Crowd joins us for a conversation that starts with everyday life in Calgary and ends in the kind of honesty that makes you sit still for a second. We talk about growing up on pop punk, how marriage changes your priorities, and why the older you get, the more you notice which songs still feel true when the lights are off. Dom breaks down the story and meaning behind “The Same Way,” July Cro...

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Season 2

Send in your music story!

A lot of music interviews stay on the surface. We didn’t. Dom from July Crowd joins us for a conversation that starts with everyday life in Calgary and ends in the kind of honesty that makes you sit still for a second. We talk about growing up on pop punk, how marriage changes your priorities, and why the older you get, the more you notice which songs still feel true when the lights are off. 

Dom breaks down the story and meaning behind “The Same Way,” July Crowd’s acoustic ballad about closeness, distance, and learning to accept what won’t happen while still honoring the love that was there. We get into the songwriting moment that sparked it, plus the craft behind the recording: stacked vocal harmonies, intentional space, and production choices that make an acoustic track hit with real weight. If you’re into pop punk songwriting, emo lyrics, and music production details, there’s a lot to steal here in the best way. 

Then the conversation turns toward grief and “Like Home,” a song shaped by losing Dom’s dad and the complicated emotions that come with it: love, anger, betrayal, memory, and the weird emptiness of a home that no longer feels the same. We also hit influences (Weezer, Blink-182, Green Day, Sum 41), collaboration dreams, and we end with our Mixtape game for a lighter landing. 

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01:19 - Welcome And Quick Catch-Up

03:39 - Video Games And Growing Up

04:55 - Marriage And New Priorities

06:51 - The Story Behind The Same Way

12:58 - Building Harmonies In The Studio

15:41 - Influences From Weezer To Blink

20:17 - Party Pop Punk Writing Choices

28:30 - Complicated And Creative Guitar Ideas

30:47 - Writing Real Lyrics Through Loss

35:10 - Like Home And The Shape Of Grief

39:41 - Kids Timing And Life Surprises

42:07 - A Message For Loved Ones

45:26 - Dream Collaborations And Co-Writing

48:22 - Taylor’s Live Sketch Surprise

51:19 - Mixtape Game Rapid Fire Picks

01:09:51 - Where To Find July Crowd

01:13:16 - Final Thanks And Subscribe Plug

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Welcome back, guys, to the show.

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I am your host, Harley, joined by my co-host and little sister Taylor, and an extremely special guest today.

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Um, we have Dom from the band July Crowd, guys.

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This is awesome.

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Let's go.

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So, Dom, what's the weather like where you're at?

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Because it's getting warm over here in Virginia.

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It's uh it's about time.

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So, like I'm not a winter person anymore.

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I used to be when I was a kid.

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I like snowboarded.

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I live in Canada, I live in Calgary.

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Um, we get really cold winters and really warm summers.

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It's like one of the most extreme cities for weather uh differential.

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Um but uh right now it's finally getting warm, like as of this week, like walking outside in a t-shirt, not a winter coat.

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So I'm having a great time.

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I'm having a time of my life right now.

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I'm good.

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Oh, that's awesome.

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I personally love Canada, I just want you to know that.

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Big fan of the Maple Storm.

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Let's go.

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Um, I I have snuck over there twice, so you know, I don't know what that says about me, but you know.

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Well, what do you bring back?

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It just kind of depends what you bring back.

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Nothing.

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Oh, okay.

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Uh actually, so we were we played a show in a band that I was in right out of high school.

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Um, I don't even remember what city it was, it was right over the border in Michigan.

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So it was like just barely, like we were like just the tip, it was a little bar up there.

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Um, but the second time I went, I brought a buddy, and we were just like, can we do it?

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So and we could, and that's crazy.

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So it can they don't tell you that like a lot of the border is kind of just woods.

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Like you can you can really just park your car in some spots and walk around.

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If you watch criminal minds, you wouldn't know.

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They have a whole episode on it.

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Yeah, there's also lakes you can just swim.

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There's really big lakes, but if you have endless endurance, you can just swim.

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Harley can't swim.

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So that's true.

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That is true.

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And that's my my stature doesn't scream swimmer, much more sitter than swimmer.

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Yes, yes, yes.

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Uh are you a video game guy?

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Uh yes, not like Twitch streaming.

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I uh I I am a video gaming on my own time guy.

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Yeah.

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What uh what do you play?

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Uh well, it's changed over the years.

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Like when I was a teenager, multiplayer stuff, I was playing with everybody.

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Like I grew up with I'm on Xbox side, I grew up on Xbox, so I was playing Halo.

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Yeah and you know, Call of Duty and all that stuff.

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But now uh now that I'm like almost 30, I'm just playing like story games.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Like stuff like Resident Evil or like any other, like, you know, I like I played all the uncharted stuff.

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I'm I'm not super deep into like a lot of the different game lores anymore.

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It's just like I don't know.

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I don't spend enough time doing it.

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I play some Nintendo stuff too.

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So like every once in a while I'll loop back and play Pokemon or like do something like that.

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But uh yeah, anything that's like story driven single player, I'm into sometimes sports games.

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If I just need to like blow off Steam after the flames lose or our calculating flames lose, then I need to like go blow off Steam on rookie mode or something.

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But other than that, uh yeah, I I don't get a lot of time for video games anymore.

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It just feels like my time my day's done and whatever, then I'm just like I'm burnt out of everything.

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I don't even want to do that.

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So I just look at my phone instead when I have way more fun playing games.

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Um, I I noticed the uh the wedding ring.

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You married?

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Yeah, uh, I got married uh this past year, uh this past summer.

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Congratulations, man.

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That's awesome.

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Congratulations, it's a huge life change, all for the better, but uh it's a huge life change for me.

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Like there's priorities outside of myself now.

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Yeah.

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You know, like I'm I'm kind of responsible for uh for the other person in our house and making sure that like their life is good too, you know?

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Yeah, yeah.

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And uh and she does the same for me and and things are good.

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The biggest thing is like she's a huge, huge supporter of what I do in terms of like building a music career, and I work in like a lot of different music adjacent stuff.

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Like I work as an audio video tech um in like freelance capacity.

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So I do you know, I work on concerts on the back end and stuff like that.

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And she's like a very big supporter of a genre music that like she didn't grow up with, she doesn't really necessarily like, but I don't know.

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She comes to the shows with me now, and now she now she likes all this stuff.

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She's like, Oh, I love you know pop punk bands now, and she like knows all the songs.

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It's just it's uh it's hilarious, but super big supporter.

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Um, I couldn't like be pushing as much as I am if it wasn't for her having my back.

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I love that, man.

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I love that.

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I am coming up on five years uh in October.

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Shout out Lindsay.

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Hello, Lindsay.

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I know you don't listen to the show, but she's in the other room hanging out with our little boy.

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So we had uh a son.

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Today is uh his 18 month birthday.

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Happy birthday, Adam.

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Happy birthday, let's go, dude.

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Absolutely.

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And that's I mean, we don't have kids, but that's just as important.

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Like if if you have a partner that is like you know willing to support what you're doing and helps look after the kids when you don't have that opportunity, and then vice versa.

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Like, yeah, oh yeah, it's green, man.

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I don't know.

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I'm I'm happy, I'm over the moon lately.

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I'm good.

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That's awesome, man.

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Um that brings me to my first like music-based question.

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Uh, with all of these changes in your life recently.

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Um, this song came out two years ago.

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Uh, I'd like to talk to you about the same way.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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So tell me a little bit about the let's start with the message in the song.

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Obviously, with everything going on in your life now, I think it's safe to say that the song was different then compared to now.

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It has a different uh uh feeling, right?

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It's it's changed a bit.

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I mean, the that's a cool song that you mentioned because I think that's a bit more of like a um it was like hidden in the middle of an EP kind of it was a bit more it wasn't pushed super, super hard like maybe some of the other singles or something.

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So it's cool that you pick up on that one.

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Um and I to date it's our only released uh like full acoustic ballad.

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Um but uh a lot of the lyrical messaging in that song, like I I used to live in a smaller town.

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Um that's where my wife and I met.

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Um this song talks about like my relationship with her before we were like properly together.

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Um addresses like some of the times we were able to um actually spend some time together and maybe like you know, we were going down different paths, or with um, you know, maybe we were like in different relationships or whatever was going on.

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It kind of addresses some of that journey a little bit and just you know, some of the different like melancholy associated with that.

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Um at the ri at the risk of sounding like overly corny here, it's it dives into um just how I felt in a lot of those moments where you know I was I was wanting some of that experience and I was like close to this person, but uh you know, it just it just wasn't able to materialize.

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And so being okay and like finding a way to be okay with like letting go of that and still celebrating, you know, what's there um and like the type of love that's there, maybe.

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Um, there's a lot of that kind of theme going on in that song of just like finding ways to accept that like maybe that's not gonna work, but you still like have uh love and a place for this person.

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Um and it it attaches to like I found myself when I was writing that song, like attaching that same sort of feeling to just other like similar ways of feeling in my life, you know, like my relationship with my grandparents when I was kind of losing my grandparents and like things like that.

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I'm just the the feeling is very similar of uh that type of that type of distance and you know potential loss and stuff like that.

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That's kind of where the song came from.

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Um that's that's my ramble on kind of where the song came from.

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No, I that's exactly kind of where I was picking up was like the uh the idea.

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See, I didn't think of it as um as a melancholy as much as like uh uh reminiscence of good times had with the intent of not having that person in your life moving forward.

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So it felt much more like that grandparent type thing, much more of like the reminiscent of we had all these great times, but I know that I'm gonna lose you soon.

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Is kind of the yeah.

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That's that's the space it's written from.

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I mean, um kind of cool, but like the I had like rode out, I took a I took my longboard out and I like went out to the park and I just like went out with my acoustic guitar at 1 a.m.

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I think this is the only time I ever did this, like, and it became a song, but I like went out to like the public park.

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You're not supposed to be there after 11, but I'm there within a guitar, I don't think I'm hurting anybody.

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Right.

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And I like sat down.

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They have like a stage, um, yeah, like an outdoor stage kind of thing.

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And I just like sat on the edge of it with my acoustic guitar.

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I couldn't sleep at like 12:31 in the morning, and I was just playing some chords and I was thinking of those things, and I was very much like writing the song just in that moment, which is unlike so many other songs that I've done.

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Usually it's takes a little longer.

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You're like working at it piece by piece and injecting parts and things, but on that one, it kind of came together.

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A lot of it came together in that moment.

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So I was definitely like feeling all of the things at the same time that I was writing them instead of looking on them uh from like a later perspective or or something like that.

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Um, but yeah, it like it's definitely about that that thing and that feeling.

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And uh, you know, I may have like teared a little bit while I was writing it, and that's that's all good and it's cool.

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When I listen to it now, I almost relate it like when I hear it back now, I relate it more to um to like I said, like my grandparents and other people in where like I kind of know I'm gonna I'm gonna lose that connection or something, but I still hold the the love in the place for them and still celebrate the fact that I got to know them at all.

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That's really like I guess like the core theme um with what I wrote it about is just like I'm I'm glad I got to know you at all and I want to celebrate that with you.

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Um, even if this means that this is the end of it, like I'm glad that it happened at all.

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And uh so from a music standpoint, the the reason that this song stuck out to me so much was aside from it being the acoustic song, right?

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Like obviously when when we have you know somebody invested in rock or pop punk or anything kind of rock adjacent when there's an acoustic song that always sticks out a little more because you're like ah, this is different from everything else.

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Um but the um uh uh the the three of you harmonizing, the harmonies in that song are like perfect for what you're doing.

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Like um, who was kind of responsible for developing those harmonies?

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Is it is it just like a layered like you're singing the melody, somebody's singing like a fifth above, and somebody's singing uh the third below?

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Um, there's a bit of that.

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Um I gotta I gotta give like credit to um you know the helper and bandmates on it, because I mean I I kind of started like the core thing, and then I bring it to everybody else and we you know find ways to build on it.

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But uh we had we had an engineer working with us at the time on that whole um that whole EP.

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Uh his name is Connor uh Pritchard, and he was like absolutely fantastic.

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He's a really um he's a really big like harmony guy um in general.

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Like he really nails it with a lot of his kind of productions.

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He was the right person to have probably on that song for that reason.

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Um, where it like the song is really bare bones in the sense that there's not, you know, there's no drums and there's no there, there's a lot of space to be had, but you also want to use it on purpose and and do stuff that makes certain sections feel really impactful or or really uh intentional.

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Um and I I think we got there.

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He helped, like him and I sat down and spent a lot of time like shaping different harmony options.

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And we probably, we probably tried.

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I'm I'm kind of going back in time right now too, like being in the room working on it uh with him.

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And we spent like hours and hours just going over different harmony options and layers, and like, you know, all right, Dom, get back in there try something else, and then like bring the other guys in, and then like we'll all do some group ones or we'll do some different things.

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So there's some significant layers.

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There's also like some 12-string guitar in there that isn't it's there, it's probably not super obvious, but it it is there and it kind of helps like it does like uh the goo-goo doll's iris thing, yep, a little bit where it kind of like does like the we need the poo floating above his bed thing.

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Or that's how I envisioned it, anyways.

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Yeah, um, but we just like you know, there's a little bit of like some uh like percussion stuff.

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There's like some small shaker blended in just all these things that like if it made it better, we did it.

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And if it didn't make it better, then we just I was like, well, you know, we talked about finding some ways of adding drums or adding snare or something, and it's like, well, it's it's fine, but it didn't make it better, so then we didn't use it.

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It's so funny that you brought up the goo goo dolls.

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Uh you you beat me to this this part of the interview.

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Um, so when I showed your band to my wife, we sat down and uh ran through a handful of songs that I liked, and um, we're sitting there watching it on the on the TV, watching music videos and stuff.

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And I was like, you know, I always try and ask her, like, what kind of sounds are you getting?

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Like, this is what I'm hearing, this is who I would compare them to.

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How do you feel?

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And she actually compared you guys to a mixture of the Google dolls and Weezer.

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So that's that's crazy.

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Uh, are those two bands that are a big influence on you?

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Um, I I can't say they're not.

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Like, I I grew up in the generation, like uh, I was born in the 90s, so I grew up in the generation where like those are prime bands that are like on radio, they're like playing on TV, like iris is everywhere, you know.

00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:13.600
I I didn't listen to the Google Dolls that much, so I can't really accredit them, but obviously, like there's a couple songs that are everywhere, and it's like it's on the mixtapes.

00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:18.159
Like, I'm sure there's like one or two songs that are like on like some burnt mixtapes that I would have had as a kid.

00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:22.560
Um Weezer a ton, just like more by proxy.

00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:27.279
I don't think I ever like intentionally went and like, oh, this is a band that I like I'm obsessed with them.

00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:32.639
I think they just like always played in whatever like mixtape rotations I had and and stuff.

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And um, I've never seen them live though.

00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:45.519
I I try to see like as many live bands as as possible just because the experience is is always great, but uh um yeah, like you know, blue album being being the big one, but I also loved the red album a lot.

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Like now that I'm older, I go back to that one a lot of the time.

00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:49.679
I think there's like interesting.

00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:51.919
It's like no one's favorite, I think.

00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.879
Yeah, if it's someone's favorite, like send me a message and say what's up because that's awesome.

00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:11.120
But um the I don't know, like pork and beans in some of those, like they just feel like super raw in a different way than how like blue album is where it's feels like um not I don't say like super produced in a bad way, I just mean like very polished, I guess.

00:17:11.279 --> 00:17:11.840
Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:13.279
Right.

00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:17.600
And then even some of the later Weezer stuff is like really cool, like the white album where they love the white album.

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All kinds of other stuff.

00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:21.840
Like that was the black album was also so good.

00:17:22.080 --> 00:17:23.200
Yeah, dude, absolutely.

00:17:23.279 --> 00:17:28.640
They just dabble in all kinds of like fun stuff and kind of do what they want, and they they push themselves musically too.

00:17:28.720 --> 00:17:34.240
Like they're a they're a better band than I think they maybe want people to think they are, or something.

00:17:34.320 --> 00:17:49.360
I don't know, I don't know how to phrase that right, but um, I think they're just a better band than um than maybe people like remember them for being or something in terms of like musicianship and and creativity and being willing to try a new thing every time they get back into writing songs.

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They're not just kind of like, oh, we've got a formula, let's rinse this over and over until everyone's tired of it.

00:17:54.639 --> 00:17:56.240
So I always appreciate bands for that.

00:17:56.319 --> 00:18:08.799
Like I grew up on a lot of Green Day and Blink 182, and though those being the big ones, Sum 41, um, all the Canadian ones too, like Simple Plan and uh and Avril, and like you know, everything like from there down.

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And uh all those acts for me, like we're willing to kind of try new things every record and not just like you know, Green Day is like, oh, we've got Dookie, we've got the thing, we're just gonna do that forever.

00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:31.119
They like, you know, they they have the thing that they they like, and then they would explore and see like where they could push themselves, or like can we make better music, or can we be influenced by something else and still sound like ourselves?

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And and some people don't like that, but I love it.

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Like, if I want to listen to Dookie again, or if I want to listen to like you know, blue album again, I'm just gonna go listen to that.

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And then if they make something new, I want it to be like a new experience for me.

00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:45.679
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:18:46.159 --> 00:18:56.479
Um, so though, yeah, I mean, there are definitely some influences, but like I'm a hodgepodge of like all kinds of like emo pop punk stuff, um poppier stuff.

00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:58.399
Like I grew up with like country everywhere.

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I live in like Canada, there's just country music everywhere.

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You you grow up like having to like it, otherwise you just end up hating everything because of the whole time.

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So you might as well just like it.

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That's our experience here in America too.

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Dude, absolutely.

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It's everything.

00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:39.359
So I just like I pull from all those places, not on purpose, but I'm sure it happens, and like those two specific bands, I'm sure I pull like things from not necessarily like one-to-one things, but just certain kinds of vibe or like willingness to like try different ways of um approaching the writing or not being like, oh, this is like exactly how it has to be in this section, because that's the the cut and paste template, like right.

00:19:39.919 --> 00:19:44.879
Just if the writing feels good, then you're probably in the right direction, then you just keep tweaking it from there.

00:19:45.199 --> 00:19:51.199
Um, so speaking of Blink 182, um, this is uh even older song of yours.

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Uh this is what I would say um is how would I describe this?

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Um oh I'm sorry, it's not older.

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My bad.

00:20:00.959 --> 00:20:08.879
Um the song Happy Ever Afterthought that is about as blink as it gets, man.

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Dude, I'll take I'll I'll take that comparison any day, but um I I like that song more than I think anyone else did.

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I don't like in terms of like the band or something.

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Um it it felt like it felt poppier at the time than than anything else we've done.

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Not not that everything didn't have like a pop over tone to it, like it obviously does, but uh uh it felt more like clean and and crisp in a way, like it didn't have like the the really sort of like rough, scraggly kind of tone of like the very first EP or something.

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It felt like it had a little more polish or something.

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Um, but I don't know.

00:20:46.319 --> 00:20:47.599
I I like that song a lot still.

00:20:47.679 --> 00:20:48.799
Like that one holds up for me.

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Me too.

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Honestly, like that is to me, that's your party song.

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Like I listen to that and I'm like, this is this is classic Blink, classic Sum 41, classic simple plan, like classic Fallout Boy.

00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:10.559
You kind of fit right in with all of the songs that when I'm hanging out with my friends having beers, this is what I want to throw on.

00:21:10.959 --> 00:21:23.359
Um and lyrically, I would say it's it's uh uh song that kind of goes outside of the depth and more of the surface level of like it's a pretty straightforward.

00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:24.959
This is the song.

00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:44.319
Um tell me about the writing style for you from comparing that to let's say uh your newest song, um like home, like that, those are two very, very different, astronomically different writing styles.

00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:50.799
Yeah, I mean, I think like our band is a few years in now.

00:21:50.959 --> 00:21:56.159
I mean, we were definitely like trying out different things, not necessarily like on purpose.

00:21:56.239 --> 00:21:57.599
We're gonna try something totally different.

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It just kind of happens because we're still figuring out how to get like a really comfortable writing songs and like what really feels um like what we feel the most connected to, maybe.

00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:16.159
Um, but with with Happy Ever, um that one ended up being like very like straight up, like super party pop punk kind of vibe.

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We tried to capture that when we did like the music video too.

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Um we uh we ended up like uh going to our we our buddies' place set up.

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We had like a venue lined up or something that we were gonna shoot this at.

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And then they like dropped out that week.

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Um like, oh no, we had like a couple of friends.

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We had a grant to do the video, so it helped financially a little bit.

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So we're like, oh, you can you know binge a little bit more and and and uh and spend some money.

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Um and then like the venue couldn't do it anymore or whatever.

00:22:41.199 --> 00:22:44.959
We were supposed to have like a, I don't know, I think there's like a backyard with a pool and all this stuff.

00:22:45.039 --> 00:22:50.879
It didn't work, so I like called my friend and I was like, dude, can we please like just use your backyard and like just well, we're just gonna like make it work.

00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:52.559
Um and it ended up being super fun.

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We just like set up instruments outside, neighbors were not happy, doesn't matter.

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Um, but we we like captured the vibe of what that song was kind of in the video too.

00:23:00.719 --> 00:23:02.399
Um, but that that was it.

00:23:02.479 --> 00:23:05.679
Like the I had the lyrical theme for it, the the happy ever.

00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:09.679
I kind of had that like tagline sort of happy ever after.

00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:12.959
Like you hear happy ever after in like so many pop punks.

00:23:13.199 --> 00:23:16.399
And and emo songs, like that's such a sort of like a cliche.

00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:16.959
Yeah.

00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:17.759
Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:23:18.159 --> 00:23:18.639
Whatever.

00:23:18.879 --> 00:23:23.599
You left me, and I'll never have my happy ever after is like such a common thing.

00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:33.759
Um, and I kind of wanted to play on that and like just sort of twist it a bit um with this like happy ever after thought, where like it's pretty self-explanatory.

00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:38.559
Like I thought this relationship was gonna go somewhere very different than what ended up happening to me.

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And uh I, you know, decided that I probably need to not be there anymore.

00:23:43.199 --> 00:23:56.639
And uh it but it's like it's so surface level compared to um writing, but it's still real, like it still comes from a very real place, and it's pretty like bar for bar what like how my actual experience was.

00:23:56.879 --> 00:24:13.359
But uh I feel like it has a way of being still relatable where I think like everyone's had a turn on that carousel, you know, like every everyone's had like their own episode of that happening, and so it's very um, you know, non-unique in that sense, at least the way it's worded.

00:24:13.519 --> 00:24:19.119
The verses, I tried to keep them just like super um like bouncy and and moving forward.

00:24:19.199 --> 00:24:29.759
And I had to like find a way to like write lyrics that weren't too um you know, too personal about it, because then I thought it might lose in this context its relatability.

00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:50.079
Uh especially when I compare that to like the newer music like like home, which I'm sure we're gonna get into a bunch anyway, but um that song is like almost very directly like uh not personal, but well, personal and uh less rudimentary, I guess.

00:24:50.239 --> 00:24:54.399
Like it kind of really goes into like the nitty-gritty of like how I felt or whatever.

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Whereas with happy ever, I'm kind of just like skimming over like you know, this one happened.

00:25:00.239 --> 00:25:08.319
There's so much that's left where it's like you don't have to say it because you can piece together exactly how the thing went because everyone's seen it or felt it at some point.

00:25:08.399 --> 00:25:10.719
So I feel like I didn't need to go into it as much.

00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:18.959
Well, and and the idea of being somebody's afterthought is such a better way, um, in today's day and age, if you ask me.

00:25:19.119 --> 00:25:29.279
Like, because it's not just it's not just about being an afterthought of like where you thought a relationship was going to go, but uh it happens in all forms of relationships.

00:25:29.439 --> 00:25:40.079
Uh your your relationship at your work, your relationship with your spouse, your relationship with anybody can you can always be an afterthought with your friends, especially.

00:25:40.239 --> 00:25:54.319
Like being an afterthought for a friend is almost just as hurtful as as being in a relationship because you're like you're supposed to be the the person I turn to in these times of need, you know.

00:25:54.559 --> 00:26:08.319
Um so like I I loved that kind of concept of like not necessarily pinpointing a a relationship, but more of just being somebody's like second choice is like hugely relatable.

00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:09.119
Oh, yeah.

00:26:09.279 --> 00:26:14.159
Well, I mean, when I say the word relationship, I don't necessarily mean like partnership relationship.

00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:15.119
Right, right, right.

00:26:15.439 --> 00:26:23.039
There like some of my songs, that's kind of where it comes from, but then there's others that maybe like lyrically match that motif, and that's not you know where it came from at all.

00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:40.079
It's more of like a brotherhood thing or like uh um, you know, it comes from a different kind of um a song that came out that same year, 2024, um, complicated kind of talks about some like you know, relationship vibey stuff, but it's not actually like a like an intimacy relationship thing.

00:26:40.159 --> 00:26:46.719
It's um more like another musician uh friend thing that like where that's okay, okay.

00:26:46.959 --> 00:26:53.439
But then it kind of still comes out in that same sort of um way where like we've all felt stuff like that.

00:26:53.599 --> 00:27:07.039
So it it we end up just relating it to, you know, whatever experience we're in at the time or something, um, or felt that's like, yeah, I felt like that exact thing, but it was with my boss or it was with my partner or it was with my mom or whatever.

00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:15.519
Um I kind of am willing to let people decide like what the song means to them instead of telling them like, no, you're wrong.

00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:17.279
This is about uh a relationship.

00:27:17.439 --> 00:27:31.039
And it can only be that's the way we feel and the way we like emotionally connect with all these things is the same often, regardless of if it's a partner or a family member or a friend that you thought was a friend and actually isn't, you know, they're uh a fake or whatever.

00:27:31.199 --> 00:27:35.439
So um yeah, I think that's like that's where that came from, man.

00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:39.039
And then the lyrics just tried to keep it uh fun and poppy.

00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:51.119
I want it to be like sing-alongy in a sense, where um like where it's not so unpredictable, like you do kind of know what I'm gonna say next, and I'm kind of just like just grabbing the overall vibe of it.

00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:57.839
I haven't done all my songs that way, but that one it just felt right to do it that way, and I just committed to writing that way.

00:27:58.159 --> 00:28:04.719
Um, speaking of complicated, um, the guitar work in that song is phenomenal.

00:28:04.959 --> 00:28:13.679
Like the the um the riff right before the chorus is I I dude, I love I love what you did like guitar-wise in that song.

00:28:13.919 --> 00:28:14.559
Oh, cool.

00:28:14.719 --> 00:28:17.279
Okay, I'm uh I'm stoked.

00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:18.399
Thank you.

00:28:18.639 --> 00:28:23.199
Um I love deep diving into the songs because like I don't really do that on a daily basis.

00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:27.439
So it's kind of fun to uh to just like talk about where they came from a little bit.

00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:28.639
Yeah, absolutely.

00:28:28.879 --> 00:28:38.959
It's like you know, through the music, there isn't necessarily usually an outlet other than like this kind of discussion where we get to talk about um you know where they came from and and hopefully it's interesting to people.

00:28:39.199 --> 00:28:41.039
Um but complicated, yeah.

00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:53.919
Complicated came from a place of like I I had a friendship that I like thought was gonna be, you know, blossom into like a friendship, and then it turned into like knife in back, you know, not really.

00:28:54.079 --> 00:29:02.159
Yeah, you know, they it it kind of played me, and I was not, you know, I was so mad about it, I went and like pen to papered it immediately, you know.

00:29:02.239 --> 00:29:04.079
So welcome to the music industry.

00:29:04.399 --> 00:29:10.479
Yeah, I was so um yeah, I found myself like writing it kind of depends.

00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:21.839
I'm not always writing lyric first, but I'm always like putting down ideas or like if I'm feeling something emotionally, I almost try to like disconnect myself from it at times and then just like put some notes down on paper, even if it's not rhymes.

00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:26.559
Like I love writing poetry now and like doing that kind of stuff it just on my own time.

00:29:26.639 --> 00:29:45.359
It's not a shared thing, but um, I will take like you know, I'll poach just lines of ideas from whatever I wrote down, whether it's poetic or just like I can't believe this guy did blah blah blah, you know, almost like a journal entry, and then I'll take that journal entry and then like uh a few weeks later or something and go, Hey, oh yeah, I remember feeling you know that angry about it.

00:29:45.439 --> 00:29:49.199
I'm kind of moved past it now, but I'd love to write a song about it and just like really stick it to him.

00:29:49.439 --> 00:29:49.679
Right.

00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.719
That's kind of where um the person has a song about it, they have no idea, and that's fine, it's just gonna stay that way.

00:29:54.879 --> 00:30:21.839
Yeah, oh yeah, I'm sure they're not even watching anyway, so dumb that um so speaking speaking of being a songwriter, um as uh somebody that writes as well, do you find it difficult to kind of because of the genre that you tend to write towards, leans more heavy into darker themes and uh places of sadness and and anger?

00:30:21.919 --> 00:30:24.719
You know, it's it not always the happiest, right?

00:30:24.799 --> 00:30:31.039
There are happy emo pop punk songs, but like it's it tends to lean more on the heavier side.

00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:37.519
Do you find it difficult to kind of pull yourself out of that writing and and write something a little more cheerful?

00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:40.719
Um you know what?

00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:54.000
Yes, but uh kind of now I found like uh the new song being like home is like a pretty emotional, kind of like pretty heavy theme thing.

00:30:54.239 --> 00:31:05.199
Um, and a lot of the new writing that's been coming out of us lately is in that world, like more the the emo influence stuff of of pop pong, like the emotional influence stuff.

00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:09.599
Um early on, uh I I always commit to writing about real things.

00:31:09.759 --> 00:31:14.159
Like I don't want to make something up and then like try to sell it as convincing because I just don't think I can.

00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:20.799
I'm sure there's like there's other songwriters that can do that really well and tell a story, um, and it's still a great story and a great delivery.

00:31:20.959 --> 00:31:22.639
Um, I find I can't.

00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:25.039
I I think I have to pull it from real things.

00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:28.559
Otherwise, like I've tried and then it just comes out like this is fake as hell.

00:31:28.639 --> 00:31:31.359
Like it's just not even believable at all.

00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:38.799
And I guess I have to believe it to then also like provide a vocal delivery that you know makes the lyrics believable too.

00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:41.519
Um early on, like I could write about anything.

00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.079
I do happier songs and like more melancholic songs.

00:31:44.159 --> 00:31:54.559
I think I felt I always had to like give it some kind of spin that had to be at least resolving or like you know, melancholic, or it couldn't just be pure like sadness.

00:31:54.719 --> 00:31:58.879
It had to like have some kind of don't worry, maybe it's gonna get better twist to it.

00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.559
Um I don't think I did it on purpose, but I think it was just always happening.

00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:15.759
Um, and then after the 2024 songs, um, I had uh I had lost my dad that summer and yeah, like he died pretty young, and like that hit me like a freight train.

00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:21.839
And obviously that immediately like you know, that changed a lot of like what's going on in my personal life and how I felt and all that.

00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:40.159
And then when it came to like writing songs and lyrics, which I still have to do, um so much of the themes like tied back to that event, or like I just couldn't find myself willing to write songs that were like, oh, I'm gonna write like a poppy fun one like happy ever or something when I'm just not feeling that.

00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:42.000
Like I don't feel that way right now.

00:32:42.159 --> 00:32:55.679
And it would be disingenuous for me to write something that isn't like conductive of what I'm going through uh or what I've just gone through or like what I'm you know, what I'm feeling in my heart right now.

00:32:56.079 --> 00:33:06.159
Um I I couldn't like I couldn't sell myself out that way and and say something that would be disingenuous when like I'm going through, you know, I'm going through a hard time.

00:33:06.239 --> 00:33:09.119
So I have to, you know, I have to tell the truth about that.

00:33:09.199 --> 00:33:14.000
And the songwriting becomes more natural and more easy and just more real because of that.

00:33:14.239 --> 00:33:16.479
I don't want to write like only sad songs forever.

00:33:16.639 --> 00:33:22.159
I just want to write about like how I am, you know, experiencing the world around me in that time.

00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:32.399
And if it's not good, like I'm not going to lie in my songs and pretend that it is and try to convince everybody that is the case when I don't expect my listeners to do that either.

00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:45.439
Like if my listeners are going through a hard time or something or dealing with loss and and or difficult times or trauma or whatever, like I don't want them to feel like they have to pretend that everything's okay when it's not either.

00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.199
They can feel the emotions and be real and work towards getting better.

00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:54.239
Um, and when you are like when things are easy and they're happy, then uh listen to happy ever and I'll have a great time.

00:33:54.639 --> 00:34:03.439
And when they're not, I'm gonna listen to the songs that uh that are more conducive of how I'm feeling now and um and uh and help me work through whatever I'm going through.

00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:06.879
Songwriting has always helped me work through whatever I'm dealing with at the time.

00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:11.039
When I you know first started writing a lot of that, like I was still in college, just finishing college and stuff like that.

00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:12.800
So a lot of songs are about what I was going through then.

00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:19.920
And then, you know, a couple years later, it's different relationships and and challenges and things, and the songs are either good or bad about that.

00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:30.079
And then now with with like home, um, a lot of like unburied stuff or a lot of buried stuff started to unbury itself and and come back, you know, into my heart and my mind.

00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:36.239
And um, you know, it'd be it would be like illegal of me to not write about it.

00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:37.119
Yeah, yeah.

00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:54.960
Speaking of the the loss and the song like home, uh I hate to I hate to say this question, but like go that song is heart-wrenching in the most beautiful way.

00:34:55.280 --> 00:35:05.840
Um it tackles a lot of what like loss feels like, and uh that's it, dude.

00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:10.640
I it's hard, it's a hard it's a hard listen in the right way.

00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:13.760
So uh Taylor Taylor hasn't heard it.

00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:18.000
I didn't tell her about it because we just lost our grandmother recently.

00:35:18.720 --> 00:35:24.400
Um so yeah, it is like you really, really helped out.

00:35:24.640 --> 00:35:29.040
Um tell me a little bit about what that song is for you.

00:35:30.160 --> 00:35:33.120
Yeah, well, I mean, I'm my condolences.

00:35:33.200 --> 00:35:34.480
I'm I'm sorry for your loss.

00:35:34.640 --> 00:35:40.480
I you know, I know how hard it is, and and that's where a song like this comes in.

00:35:40.640 --> 00:35:48.240
Like it's this is a shared experience that every one of us as like a human, um, enjoying the human condition.

00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:54.240
Like, we have to go through this at some point with the people that are closest to us, and it's just something we have to deal with.

00:35:54.400 --> 00:36:00.800
And it would be unfair to not write and talk about it when that's you know the place that I was coming from at the time.

00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:30.160
This was fresh for me where I had, you know, I'd lost my dad and I uh it it comes from, you know, like the feelings of betrayal in a way when you know they left early and it wasn't, you know, to me it wasn't his time to leave, but that's just what was decided for him, and and uh I have to kind of work through that in the most brutal way.

00:36:30.240 --> 00:36:46.640
Like there's stages to that kind of grief where like it's you feel like you've been let down, you feel like you've been, you know, betrayed not just by uh by life or by God or or or whatever, but also by them because they they left you by yourself, they left you alone, you know.

00:36:46.720 --> 00:36:55.440
And I don't want to hate him for leaving, but you can't you can't like skip that part of the grief either because it it's natural and it happens.

00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:02.480
It you know, it that song is supposed to be as cathartic and like expressive as as it is.

00:37:02.720 --> 00:37:15.280
I um I wanted to provide, you know, imagery that really detailed the way you know the the words like home really kind of sell it, but like all of the way the verses are written and and the chorus too.

00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:22.720
Like I'm really trying to drive this sort of home feeling empty without someone that you're used to being there all the time.

00:37:23.040 --> 00:37:30.800
And it it un it like you know dug up a lot of different kinds of emotional things from when I was young too.

00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:39.040
Like my parents were great parents and they they cared about each other and they they got along until the end, but like they weren't always, you know, together or they weren't always close.

00:37:39.120 --> 00:37:43.520
And there was, you know, there was times where it was really, really rough or difficult.

00:37:43.680 --> 00:37:58.560
And um, a lot of that comes up in that grieving process too, where like, you know, you remember all the great things, but you also remember all the things that, you know, caused you maybe a lot of pain or heartache, like growing up in that kind of broken home or or something.

00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:04.480
So this song kind of tackles all of that at once because I felt it all at once.

00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:28.080
So it wouldn't be fair to just single out like just one or two things when I was feeling that whole wave of like weight and emotion and love and sadness and betrayal and um, you know, and like going back 20 years to my relationship with him then and then 10 years and and five years and in the final you know, year or moments too.

00:38:28.240 --> 00:38:46.480
So it uh hopefully the song is something that people can turn to and just like it helped me work through it, it can help you know someone else work through it because like growing up in a in a home that is tattered is is not unique like you know, a lot of us have.

00:38:47.120 --> 00:38:52.160
I I was lucky that my you know things were difficult at times, but my parents always loved me and they cared.

00:38:52.400 --> 00:39:06.400
Um, you know, there's levels to that stuff, but everyone can relate to the loss of it and the way that like you know that losing that person in the hollowness of your home can feel when you don't have that person anymore.

00:39:06.720 --> 00:39:08.800
Absolutely, absolutely.

00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:14.000
Um so you just recently got married.

00:39:14.240 --> 00:39:16.800
Uh do you guys plan on having kids?

00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:29.280
Uh we're not like anti-kids, but uh like every time we've talked about it, every every time we've talked about it, we're like, yeah, not at the moment.

00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:34.560
Um it's you know, if if we had a kid, we'll love him or her very, very much.

00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:38.320
But uh that that's not where we're at in our lives right now.

00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:42.560
My my wife is like uh, you know, she's she's a professional, she's got her career.

00:39:42.720 --> 00:39:45.040
I'm uh doing my best to have mine.

00:39:45.680 --> 00:39:57.440
Um so like it it wouldn't really be a good like a fair time to to bring in a kid and then you know maybe not be giving the time it would deserve or something.

00:39:57.600 --> 00:39:58.880
Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.

00:39:59.120 --> 00:40:04.000
But like, but if if it happened, then we would love that kid very much and take care of him, blah blah blah.

00:40:04.160 --> 00:40:07.280
Um we bounced the idea, but I don't think we're there.

00:40:07.600 --> 00:40:16.400
So my wife and I had uh a talk about it, and we were like, you know, we're at a place where if it happens, it happens, great.

00:40:16.640 --> 00:40:21.200
If not, not a big deal, but we're not necessarily trying, right?

00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:21.840
Yeah.

00:40:22.160 --> 00:40:35.840
And then I hit us a spot during the show where I was like, hey, you know, things are starting to get good, things are kicking off, we're getting a little traction, I'm getting a lot of new offers that I never thought I would see in my life.

00:40:36.080 --> 00:40:41.760
Um, I think that I'm getting to a point where I would like to try and do this full time.

00:40:42.720 --> 00:40:49.200
And then that afternoon, after having that talk with my wife, she hands me a positive pregnancy test.

00:40:49.680 --> 00:40:50.640
There you go.

00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:53.600
I was like, oh, okay.

00:40:54.560 --> 00:40:56.960
And Hems is the greatest little guy in the whole world.

00:40:57.200 --> 00:40:57.920
Oh, he's awesome.

00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:58.640
He's awesome.

00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:01.440
He's the coolest kid I know.

00:41:02.080 --> 00:41:04.160
It's the reason part of it, man.

00:41:04.240 --> 00:41:07.600
Like that's it's a part of it's a part of life and a part of the story.

00:41:07.680 --> 00:41:19.840
And if like, you know, if I'm I'm a believer in in like fate, so if it's that like you'll be told when it's time, right when you're ready, or if it's supposed to happen for you or not.

00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:25.280
And like you do have to take your own initiative and like with anything you do, and that involves kids or something too.

00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:34.000
Like, um, but it just like I don't know, you're told like your the universe will tell you when it's time, and then you just be like, Yep, there's the stick.

00:41:35.680 --> 00:41:42.320
Now, I I ask you these questions because this is the overarching question that I'd like to ask you.

00:41:42.720 --> 00:41:46.400
Um there's a good strong chance that your wife will see this.

00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:49.920
There's a good strong strong chance that a lot of people in your life will see this.

00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:58.480
What is a message today that you would like to leave your loved ones for the future?

00:42:00.640 --> 00:42:01.440
Oh man.

00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:14.160
Um I I've really become a person that like stands on being real and genuine.

00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:17.520
I'm so like beyond fake nonsense.

00:42:17.680 --> 00:42:25.360
There's so much stuff in our world that's like fake BS and propaganda and noise and like social media amplifies all those things.

00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.240
And we love social media, but it also, you know, it it shows us things we don't want to see.

00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:47.840
So be like I want to continue to live this way, and I hope the people around me like continue to do so as well, but just be like genuine to yourself and the people around you, and don't try to be something that doesn't feel you know genuine and real to you.

00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:54.560
Like if you're feeling emotions, if you're going through difficult times, like tell the people around you, be open about those things.

00:42:54.640 --> 00:42:59.520
You don't need to hide and conceal that stuff because if things are hard, people will help you.

00:42:59.600 --> 00:43:02.240
And if if things are great, then you can be helping others.

00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:06.640
So I I'm trying to live by those models of being real.

00:43:06.720 --> 00:43:08.160
I'm trying to do that in the music too.

00:43:08.240 --> 00:43:14.160
And and just music is such a big part of my life that it becomes the alleyway for me to to feed that message.

00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:19.360
But um, I think I just have to stand on that, like, you know, yeah.

00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:30.960
It's more than just choose love over hate because it's that, but also like if you're if you're going through difficult times and and things are hard and challenging, and you, you know, you're you're battling with something to say, like just talk about it.

00:43:31.120 --> 00:43:34.240
Tell tell the people around you it's scary as shit, and it just is.

00:43:34.720 --> 00:43:38.400
And then you move past and you just kind of get good at it after a while, and it's okay.

00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:52.080
Um, so I I hope myself and you know the people around me will maybe like I can have that influence on them where they feel they're allowed to be vulnerable and they feel they're allowed to talk about um what's happening in their life and and what's going on around them.

00:43:53.600 --> 00:43:55.120
That's a beautiful message.

00:43:55.280 --> 00:44:00.480
Um Dom, I have two more questions for you, and then we're gonna play this very fun game.

00:44:00.640 --> 00:44:02.640
Sorry to get so deep on you at the end.

00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:05.360
It flew naturally into it.

00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:09.680
I didn't want to uh standbag it at the beginning.

00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.640
So um sorry, it's crazy.

00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:14.240
Um, it's real, man.

00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:24.960
It's dude, life life is like easy for a while, and then it's hard for a while, and then it's like kind of easier for a bit, and then it's hard again, and you just like you have to that's the human condition, that's like the gift of what we get to do every day.

00:44:25.040 --> 00:44:53.120
And we can't appreciate like when things are awesome and you you know you've got like your first kid and you get like all those moments, like those moments are great because you also have moments that suck and you know what like the bottom feels like, so right, you know, you can't really have one without the other, so you have to have both, and like being able to accept and like find you know, not lose yourself and lose your your direction and your morale and and your you know sense of morality in those moments is like what makes us ourselves, right?

00:44:53.920 --> 00:45:04.240
Um if you could collaborate with somebody uh who do you think would fit your band and your sound best?

00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:18.400
There's there's so many answers that I'd love to because like I I I grew up without internet, so I was listening to like CDs that I had, you know, like I had Good Charlotte, I had Green Days, like Good Charlotte was my favorite band growing up.

00:45:18.560 --> 00:45:24.560
Like I can't say they're not now either because they just still are like the the the whole like Madden universe.

00:45:24.640 --> 00:45:25.440
Like I love all that stuff.

00:45:25.600 --> 00:45:27.760
So I uh like they're my favorite band.

00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:39.680
Obviously, like a dream collaboration of some kind, but there's also so many like smaller artists that I listen to now that it does a lot of that doesn't matter to me if it's like it's like oh I don't want to just collaborate with like the biggest artist ever.

00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:50.880
You know, like it's more, you know, I want to make the kind of music that like I want to create and I want to collaborate and and work with people that share like that sort of genuine vision.

00:45:51.280 --> 00:46:02.080
Um I think like these days I'm so influenced by bands like uh like Knucklepuck and Real Friends and the story so far and like a lot of the the next wave of of bands.

00:46:02.480 --> 00:46:07.600
Um probably real friends, like I love everything that they do, I love their band lyrically.

00:46:08.080 --> 00:46:15.680
Um I uh I got to meet Kyle bass player at one of the shows when they came to Canada last time, which is a while ago now, and they should come back and hang out.

00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:30.480
But uh um, but like if I could collaborate with that band in some way, whatever that means, whether that's like putting like doing a song together somehow, or like you know, working on writing a real friend song or working on writing a July Card song, or just like I don't know, opening for them at a bar.

00:46:30.560 --> 00:46:31.040
I don't care.

00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:34.240
Like some type of collaboration with them would be super fun.

00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:38.560
Um, I don't know, eat just eat pizza and like hang out and talk about music, sure.

00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:40.960
Uh anything like that would be fun.

00:46:41.120 --> 00:46:47.360
But there's also like there's so many good like Canadian bands that are you know a short drive from me.

00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:54.480
There's bands like there's like Chief State in Vancouver, who's like a super, super good pop punk kind of emo band that like I'd love to do something with them one day.

00:46:54.560 --> 00:46:58.720
Or there's like Sucker Punch in on uh in like Montreal.

00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:01.440
They just got on warp tour for the first time this year.

00:47:01.680 --> 00:47:05.360
Like they, you know, we've known that band for a long time, and like I'd love to do something with them sometime.

00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:07.200
So it's just it's tough.

00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:12.400
Like, I just enjoy the process too much, and I'm all like, everything's great.

00:47:12.640 --> 00:47:17.440
Um, I I just I love the process of of making music and I love co-writing with people.

00:47:17.600 --> 00:47:24.720
Um, a really, really good friend of mine, Jake from uh Jake Alexandra from the band The Burden, um parcourt band.

00:47:25.040 --> 00:47:28.240
Um he is a co-writer on Like Home.

00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:29.680
Oh, really?

00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:35.680
Yeah, we uh he's been a friend for a long time and we ended up like hanging out for a couple days and we had started that song together.

00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:42.960
Um, just you know, we're hanging out with like his kid and it was like having a good time, and then we ended up like going to the basement playing some guitars, and then we started working on that song.

00:47:43.040 --> 00:47:50.400
So um I just loved the spirit of of collaboration and just like trying making music together, so right, yeah.

00:47:50.640 --> 00:47:51.600
I love that.

00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:56.640
Um so that concludes the interview side.

00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:59.600
Dom, thank you so much for being on the show today.

00:47:59.920 --> 00:48:04.080
Uh Taylor, what have we been working on this episode?

00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:10.400
So I I want to I want to explain Harley and I came up with this idea.

00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:12.800
Well, kind of.

00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:22.000
You know how at weddings you can have people that paint, you know, like the the bride and the groom, the first dance, that whole situation.

00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:23.760
Okay, yeah.

00:48:24.560 --> 00:48:26.960
I like to think of myself as an artiste.

00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:37.120
So during the show, I promise I was listening and I was drawing your ideas and your stories as you were telling them, but I would like to share.

00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:40.000
This is the very first one ever.

00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.080
This is the first time we've done this on the show.

00:48:43.120 --> 00:48:43.600
Let's go.

00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:46.160
And I'm very excited, okay?

00:48:47.200 --> 00:48:48.880
So here's my drawing.

00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.120
Oh, it looks just like me.

00:48:56.320 --> 00:49:02.080
I knew you were doing something the whole time because I kind of saw you like I thought you had a penny, and so I thought you're scribbling something.

00:49:02.560 --> 00:49:03.440
And it works great.

00:49:03.520 --> 00:49:07.600
It like it's very nice for my brain to be doing something else while I'm listening.

00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:10.800
Um, but we have your blink 182 here.

00:49:11.520 --> 00:49:13.360
You're married, you're from Canada.

00:49:13.600 --> 00:49:17.360
This is you on the stage writing in the park.

00:49:17.680 --> 00:49:19.680
That actually looks alarmingly like it.

00:49:21.680 --> 00:49:25.760
The stage thing is surprisingly similar because it's just got like a tree line around it and there's like a little ambient.

00:49:26.160 --> 00:49:28.320
Yeah, I assume thank you.

00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.880
I assume all stages and parks look like that.

00:49:31.120 --> 00:49:31.680
Nailed it.

00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:32.240
Well, I don't know.

00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:34.000
Not all parks have trees, so I don't know.

00:49:34.160 --> 00:49:38.160
Um, the blue and purple is like self-titled blink era colors.

00:49:38.240 --> 00:49:40.560
I I recognize that color scheme anyway.

00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:46.080
What's crazy is before you even started talking about blink, I was like, I'm feeling blue and pink, blue and purple.

00:49:46.240 --> 00:49:47.840
And then I was like, perfect.

00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:49.200
It's because I was here.

00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:51.840
Right, you were just giving the vibes.

00:49:52.640 --> 00:49:53.200
I love this.

00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:53.920
That's great.

00:49:54.160 --> 00:49:54.560
Thank you.

00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:58.560
Um, do I get like a like do I get like a copy of it mailed to me?

00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.360
We are going to send that to you.

00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:02.560
That is yours, sir.

00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.000
We're gonna we're gonna sign it and send it to you.

00:50:06.160 --> 00:50:10.400
A little memory from your time here on the Hook and Bridge podcast.

00:50:10.720 --> 00:50:19.360
I've got uh we just like we moved into a new place recently, and as you can see, the wall behind well, it's kind of blurred, but like this white, there's so much room for just more posters.

00:50:19.520 --> 00:50:26.240
This way, it's all like band posters and like different memorabilia from some of our own shows and then like also going to shows over the years.

00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:30.400
Yeah, um, there's some up here too, just like happens to not be behind the camera.

00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:31.200
So you're right.

00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:32.720
Um I need to have on that side too.

00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:34.320
So, yes, please, absolutely.

00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:35.200
I want this.

00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:36.560
Hell yeah, it's yours.

00:50:36.720 --> 00:50:37.760
It's yours, love it.

00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:38.480
Thank you so much.

00:50:38.640 --> 00:50:39.280
I'm so excited.

00:50:39.600 --> 00:50:42.240
No, thank thank you for being on the show, man.

00:50:42.640 --> 00:50:47.440
Um, so now we're gonna jump into something a little more upbeat.

00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:50.080
Uh, this is a game called Mixtape.

00:50:50.160 --> 00:50:53.120
Basically, are you familiar with a little game called Cards Against Humanity?

00:50:53.680 --> 00:50:54.000
Yes.

00:50:54.720 --> 00:50:56.880
So, this is the music version of that.

00:50:57.120 --> 00:50:59.920
I'm gonna ask you a series of 10 questions.

00:51:00.160 --> 00:51:03.440
Your responses are going to be the title of a song.

00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:09.600
Um, you can choose to be funny or you can choose to be serious, totally up to you.

00:51:10.080 --> 00:51:16.880
And then we'll kind of ask why you pick the answers that you pick, unless it's like quite obviously that it's like the funniest answer.

00:51:17.200 --> 00:51:21.200
Like Genuine's pony being your high school dance song.

00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.840
That's quite obviously funny.

00:51:24.080 --> 00:51:27.680
Um, so I'm just gonna randomly pick 10.

00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:31.680
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.

00:51:32.160 --> 00:51:33.920
Oh man, I don't know if I'm that quick.

00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:38.000
I'm gonna do my best to be quick on this, but I like I always like to use Spotify.

00:51:38.160 --> 00:51:40.160
Yes, you can use you can use your tools.

00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:47.360
Okay, I've got Spotify on deck here, but like at Cards Against Humanity, I'm like, I'm the last person putting a card in, and I'm like, oh, I hope so.

00:51:47.520 --> 00:51:50.320
I don't like sometimes, but I'm just like it just takes me longer.

00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:50.640
I don't know.

00:51:50.720 --> 00:51:52.800
I'm gonna do my best to be rapid fire with it, though.

00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:53.920
I'm gonna try my best.

00:51:54.160 --> 00:51:57.680
This is this first one's perfect for you because you just got married.

00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:58.480
Let's go.

00:51:59.120 --> 00:52:02.000
What is the best wedding song?

00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:04.720
So obviously, you have to tell us your wedding song.

00:52:08.320 --> 00:52:10.560
Yeah, uh, the best wedding song.

00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:19.040
Um I know the worst wedding song, which is uh I've got a feeling because it plays at every wedding I've ever gone to.

00:52:19.680 --> 00:52:23.120
Oh yeah, the dance floor, worst dance floor anthem of all time.

00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:27.520
Um we did a lot of 40s music at our wedding.

00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:29.520
40s music, yeah.

00:52:29.600 --> 00:52:33.040
Like doo-wop, like uh like big band.

00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:38.160
Uh a little bit of that stuff, and then a lot of like uh like a lot of like the wartime.

00:52:38.720 --> 00:52:39.120
Really?

00:52:39.600 --> 00:52:41.280
Kind of like the early 40s stuff.

00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:46.960
Um, so like uh a lot of our wedding themed, like dinner and and dance and stuff like that.

00:52:47.040 --> 00:52:50.400
We we went into that world and had like just the most wonderful time.

00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:52.480
Everyone I think dressed up real real snazzy.

00:52:52.560 --> 00:52:53.360
We were dressed in full.

00:52:53.520 --> 00:52:54.480
It was awesome.

00:52:54.720 --> 00:52:57.520
Like like Great Gadsby style, yeah, totally.

00:52:57.600 --> 00:52:59.040
Yeah, okay, all right, yeah.

00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:00.720
That's sick.

00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:07.120
It was uh it was it was different than like any wedding we went to, and like both my wife and I like a lot of that stuff.

00:53:07.680 --> 00:53:11.520
Um, so it was it was just so like naturally obvious.

00:53:11.680 --> 00:53:16.560
So I don't know, like uh like uh cheek to cheek or something from uh Ella Fitzgerald.

00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:17.920
Right, okay, okay.

00:53:19.040 --> 00:53:20.720
We're going way, yeah.

00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:21.600
Gotcha.

00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:24.480
I get that's the that's a first on the show.

00:53:24.640 --> 00:53:28.080
No one has ever brought up anything prior to the 60s on this show.

00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:28.880
Let's go.

00:53:29.040 --> 00:53:32.720
I we love that stuff, and I don't necessarily know why, we just we just both love it.

00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:34.080
Um that's awesome.

00:53:35.040 --> 00:53:38.960
Uh mine was uh Future Days by Pearl JM.

00:53:39.200 --> 00:53:41.040
Oh, yeah, yeah, okay.

00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:52.960
Um you'd think because like we're like pop punk, we'd have to do like a pop punk one, like it would have to be like a um, I don't know, like I miss here, like a blink thinger or something, but like yeah, we we went a completely different direction.

00:53:53.200 --> 00:54:00.640
I I immediately for some reason went to Brendan Uri, but I was like, you can't play that at a wedding.

00:54:01.120 --> 00:54:01.920
You can do it.

00:54:02.080 --> 00:54:04.160
The thing is with your wedding is you can do whatever you want.

00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:06.080
So yeah, that is true.

00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:06.880
It is true.

00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:13.920
It would be crazy though if somebody was like, I chime in with haven't you people ever heard of like at a wedding?

00:54:14.160 --> 00:54:19.040
That's uh that's that's a real or like what's the other lying is the most fun a girl can have.

00:54:19.600 --> 00:54:23.440
Yeah, I saw a video once.

00:54:23.600 --> 00:54:33.680
This has probably been 10 years ago, of um of somebody playing the song Crazy Bitch by Buck Cherry at their wedding.

00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:35.840
That's fantastic, dude.

00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:38.640
That one was going on the playlist.

00:54:39.120 --> 00:54:44.160
That was like I think the trashiest wedding I've ever seen in my life.

00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:46.640
I'm guessing uh what's the theory of a dead man one?

00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:49.440
Bad girlfriend oh bad girlfriend, that definitely played.

00:54:49.600 --> 00:54:50.800
That definitely played.

00:54:51.120 --> 00:54:54.480
Those have always gone on the exact same mixtape or now playlist.

00:54:54.720 --> 00:55:00.480
Yeah, let's just say there was definitely a lot of tattoos involved at this wedding.

00:55:00.640 --> 00:55:01.920
A lot of tattoos.

00:55:02.080 --> 00:55:06.960
Yeah, and anyone who didn't have them had to wear like the fake, like the sleeves, yeah.

00:55:07.200 --> 00:55:10.240
Yeah, and the ones that did have them, they were very faded.

00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:14.400
These are these are not fresh tattoos, those were a while ago.

00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:16.160
Yeah, let's go.

00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:25.360
All right, the next one is uh your vintage bottle of ooh, a fancy wine that I can't pronounce.

00:55:25.600 --> 00:55:30.800
Um, what song would you pop a very fancy bottle of wine to?

00:55:31.600 --> 00:55:33.760
Well, I pop I pop bottles too.

00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:35.120
I don't know, fat lip.

00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:37.520
I always like I went crazy at fat lip.

00:55:37.680 --> 00:55:39.520
We we used to like when I was a kid, we like party.

00:55:39.600 --> 00:55:41.520
Like that song was always playing at like parties and stuff.

00:55:41.600 --> 00:55:44.080
And dude, I love some 41 so much.

00:55:44.240 --> 00:55:48.000
That was my like I'm not old enough to drink anthem, and then would you know do the thing anyway?

00:55:48.320 --> 00:55:50.880
Like I don't drink anymore now, so that's what's kind of funny about it.

00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:55.520
Like all my drinking experiences from being like a young adult or like a teenager when I wasn't supposed to yet.

00:55:55.600 --> 00:55:56.000
Yep.

00:55:56.080 --> 00:55:57.040
So yeah.

00:55:57.600 --> 00:55:59.120
Did you listen to their new album?

00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:05.040
Like the the latest, like last one, the like double album, the heaven and hell.

00:56:05.200 --> 00:56:06.240
What did you think?

00:56:06.720 --> 00:56:08.320
Um I enjoy it.

00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.040
Like, that's a can do no wrong band for me now.

00:56:11.120 --> 00:56:18.400
You know, they've they've earned the right for me to just like put out whatever, like if they wanted to put out slop, they could, and I would just tolerate it, but um, but they didn't.

00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:19.440
I thought it was really good.

00:56:19.680 --> 00:56:21.680
Um, I I like both.

00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:26.160
Some41 kind of has the like two styles that they've always bounced between.

00:56:26.240 --> 00:56:31.040
So this album being very like you know, conclusive of that made sense.

00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:39.040
Um, I always leaned more on the pop punk side, whereas like our drummer Nick or something, like he always liked the heavier side, right?

00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:45.200
So it's uh I don't know, it made everyone happy in terms of like our band dynamics or something.

00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:54.160
Like our guitar player, he's like a huge the pop side of Sum41 fan, but he you know he could probably play every single song like on demand if you asked him to on guitar.

00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:59.840
Um, but uh yeah, I I loved the album because well, I don't know.

00:57:00.080 --> 00:57:03.440
Um, what was the the lead single they did?

00:57:03.520 --> 00:57:06.640
I remember hearing it because it got radio play and stuff, and I remember hearing it right away.

00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:15.680
Um oh my goodness, uh I can't remember the name of it now, but um it was just at first I was like, ugh, I don't know.

00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:20.320
Like it to me at first, like definitely grew it grew on for sure.

00:57:20.640 --> 00:57:27.040
Well, I just remember being like almost disappointed at first, and I I feel bad for saying that because I I love the band, and I was like, I don't know.

00:57:27.200 --> 00:57:33.760
And then my you know, my wife who was my girlfriend at the time, like she was immediately all over uh dopamine, that's what it's called.

00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:34.640
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:43.680
Um and the verses were very like very kind of straight, uh drums and like it didn't really like move a lot, it was very much like this section, this section.

00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:50.000
Um, but she was listening to it all the time, and like she'd listen to like Alt Nation or whatever in the in the vehicle, and that song would come on.

00:57:50.080 --> 00:57:53.440
And then I just eventually I'm like, oh, it's kind of earwormy though.

00:57:53.520 --> 00:57:57.840
I don't know, like yeah, you know, it's it's like and then it's like okay, oh you got me.

00:57:57.920 --> 00:57:59.680
And then the rest of the albums home run for me.

00:57:59.920 --> 00:58:04.400
Yeah, I thought that I thought it was a nice like final album for the band.

00:58:05.120 --> 00:58:08.800
It released, I think, at the wrong time.

00:58:09.040 --> 00:58:19.440
I think that it should have released a year earlier, but Blink 182 put out their album that year, so they pushed it to the next year, I think.

00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:24.800
And um, I think that's kind of what crushed the momentum of the album.

00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:27.440
But I thought it was a fantastic farewell of the band.

00:58:27.520 --> 00:58:29.760
Like you listen to it and you're like, Yeah, this is it.

00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:31.520
Like they're they're done.

00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:45.840
And and I think that's good to give closure because a lot of bands don't, they just kind of leave you with like the well, we might get back together someday, and then you have KISS fans for 50 years being like, Well, they're coming back, yeah.

00:58:46.240 --> 00:58:52.800
Yeah, or like the band keeps like reinventing, or like, yeah, there's new members, like I don't know, um, what is it, like black flag comes to mind or something?

00:58:53.120 --> 00:58:55.680
Yes, if not, it's a great example, yeah.

00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:58.560
And then people get pretty divisive about it and stuff like that.

00:58:58.640 --> 00:59:06.320
So I think Sum 41 like went out before people could get divisive about you know, should they still be doing like classic rock festivals?

00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:09.280
Kind of isn't it time to retire, fellas?

00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:15.360
Like they didn't they didn't get to that thing, they uh they went out like on you know on their terms or something.

00:59:15.600 --> 00:59:17.600
Yeah, um, I think I think it worked out great.

00:59:17.680 --> 00:59:20.720
Uh, I liked the uh the opening track Waiting on Swiss Fate.

00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:27.040
I love just the pace of it and the kind of like unpredictability of like where the song went next.

00:59:27.120 --> 00:59:28.320
I just I enjoyed that a lot.

00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:29.120
So right.

00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:30.640
That was my banger.

00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:37.280
Um next question best relationship makeup song.

00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:39.120
What's your go-to?

00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:47.600
You've you've pissed somebody off, you got flowers, you're trying to make right song.

00:59:49.200 --> 00:59:53.520
Uh you didn't do that load of laundry that you were supposed to.

00:59:53.680 --> 00:59:55.760
Oh the dishes are not on.

00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:05.600
Um absolutely.

01:00:06.080 --> 01:00:12.880
Um maybe uh uh Don't Let Her Pull You Down by Newfound Glory.

01:00:13.200 --> 01:00:13.440
Okay.

01:00:17.120 --> 01:00:26.560
I don't know, like it's uh the the like partnership relationships or like you know, and now marriage, like that stuff is uh is not easy.

01:00:26.640 --> 01:00:35.120
And like sometimes I'm in a bad mood and I don't want to like you know bring her down something, or sometimes like maybe she's not feeling herself, and then I let that like sink all over me.

01:00:35.200 --> 01:00:44.160
So if I make a mistake or something, I don't know, I'm gonna rock out to something like that, get myself back on track, and then and then I'll go back with flash and be like, I'm sorry, I'm you know what?

01:00:44.240 --> 01:00:45.520
I'm just gonna bite it on this one.

01:00:45.600 --> 01:00:48.800
Like it didn't matter, the argument didn't matter, or like whatever it was.

01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:54.800
Yeah, you know, I'm just going to it's totally like it's just not that important.

01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.120
Like if you have love and everything else like it, it's just not that important.

01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.720
So right I bring it back to anthem to go.

01:01:01.040 --> 01:01:01.440
Yeah, there you go.

01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:04.880
I I gotta bring it back to Buck Cherry.

01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:06.960
I would go with sorry by Buck Cherry.

01:01:07.120 --> 01:01:07.920
Oh, let's go.

01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:09.520
I read sorry of that.

01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:10.240
Sorry.

01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:11.440
Yeah, okay.

01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:13.680
Just full on blame myself.

01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:17.360
You got do you got one, Taylor?

01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:19.280
What's your what's your makeup song?

01:01:19.600 --> 01:01:23.200
Oh you've you've interrupted Dylan's basketball game.

01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:24.400
He's watching the game.

01:01:29.200 --> 01:01:31.040
It's ruining my life.

01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:38.960
Uh one comes to mind, but I at the moment can't remember the name of it.

01:01:40.560 --> 01:01:45.840
Um with my clothes on.

01:01:46.640 --> 01:01:48.960
Oh yeah, yeah.

01:01:49.120 --> 01:01:52.160
Yeah, I I respond like a golden retriever to that.

01:01:53.200 --> 01:01:54.640
Yeah, yep, yep, yep.

01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:57.200
Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm ready to go when I hear that song, man.

01:01:57.280 --> 01:02:00.320
I love, I loved that album, that whole album so much.

01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:01.680
Like I have the vinyl record of it.

01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:03.760
Like I will I will loop that endlessly.

01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:05.120
I will defend that endlessly.

01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:10.720
I saw Lit um at uh when uh which when we were young.

01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:16.560
Um I think it's 2023 was the year that they were there.

01:02:16.640 --> 01:02:19.120
I'm pretty sure it was Green Day, it was the Green Day Blink one.

01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:20.320
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:24.240
Two main stages and then Green Day and Blink like on the same night.

01:02:24.480 --> 01:02:29.840
Um and Lit played at the same time as Green Day, and they were on like stage three or whatever.

01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.320
So like it was it was brutal because like they're they're a you know legend band.

01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:42.800
Um, but everyone was at Green Day, so there's only like maybe a couple hundred people like going to see one of the biggest like emo pop punk festivals.

01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:49.360
Um, and then I got to be one of those people, and so like you know, you're just like a couple of feet from the stage, you could just run over there and then be there in the pit with them immediately.

01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:51.040
That's incredible.

01:02:51.200 --> 01:02:53.360
Yeah, and and they they gave it like a hundred percent.

01:02:53.440 --> 01:02:56.880
They did not phone it in just because like the audience was small for that festival or something.

01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:05.040
Like they brought like all their classic songs, they uh like delivered really well, they didn't like phone in the performance or something, like they were discourse or something.

01:03:05.120 --> 01:03:11.360
They yeah, they were there to be there for the fans that came to see them and they knew their fate if they're on the same time as Greendale.

01:03:11.600 --> 01:03:17.760
Yeah, um that is my like same thing party song.

01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:22.160
Like, if I hear that song, I'm like, oh, I can taste the beer right now.

01:03:24.160 --> 01:03:34.160
Those uh to to have been like in the pit at those like 2000 library, um, like the televised MTV owner, what it was like the 2001.

01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:35.040
Yep, yep, yeah.

01:03:35.120 --> 01:03:39.040
Like to be there and you know, I would have been like five or something, so it wouldn't work.

01:03:39.120 --> 01:03:43.120
But if I was like my age now and there, I don't know, all my problems would have just gone away.

01:03:43.200 --> 01:03:44.640
I'd never have a problem again in my life.

01:03:47.520 --> 01:03:49.840
All right, we got one more here.

01:03:50.720 --> 01:03:57.760
What is the song that goes with your most memorable childhood music video?

01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:05.280
So, what song from your childhood is like the most memorable music video song?

01:04:05.600 --> 01:04:09.600
Oh, dudes, like music video that I watched as a yes, yeah, yeah.

01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:22.000
Oh, it's this is so easy because like I so I didn't have internet when I was a kid, so I couldn't really watch music videos until like I would go to someone's house or something, and then I was like exposed to YouTube for the first time.

01:04:22.160 --> 01:04:34.720
And uh my buddy showed me uh this song called The Anthem by Good Charlotte, and I uh you know we we all know and love that it's like one of my favorite songs, probably for that reason, because of the early exposure to it.

01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.840
Um, but they're like I that was my idea.

01:04:38.080 --> 01:04:40.640
That was my first exposure because I was seven or something.

01:04:40.720 --> 01:04:42.960
So that was my first exposure to like what cool is.

01:04:43.200 --> 01:04:54.400
Yeah, you know, I was like, okay, riding these like sick BMXs and like just because like in the video, they're just like ribbing BMX around and singing the song, and then there's like I think like a a party that they're playing at as well, and stuff.

01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:55.360
Yep, yep, yep.

01:04:55.600 --> 01:04:56.480
That's what I want to be.

01:04:56.560 --> 01:04:57.920
I want to be like that cool.

01:04:58.080 --> 01:05:00.960
I don't know how to get there and I'm like seven, but I don't know.

01:05:01.040 --> 01:05:02.720
Somehow that's where I'm gonna be.

01:05:02.960 --> 01:05:05.680
And I don't know, I don't write BMX, like I don't know.

01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:11.280
I longboarded a bit for a while until I hurt myself, but um, I uh that that was my idea of cool.

01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:15.280
So that would be like the shaping me um music video.

01:05:15.520 --> 01:05:21.760
Yeah, have to rabble about it because I just like I remember, but I would watch it every time, dude.

01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:25.040
Like I would go every time I went to my friends, I'd be like, Can we watch the video?

01:05:25.120 --> 01:05:31.840
And then we sit down and watch the video, put it on the TV or like um or put it on like the computer, like a little home computer at the time.

01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:32.800
Yep, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:33.040 --> 01:05:39.920
You have like the corner desk, you know, the like the really old packed like thing, the CDs on the CD wrap on one side and like the other thing.

01:05:40.160 --> 01:05:41.520
The family desk, man.

01:05:41.600 --> 01:05:44.160
It would be in the corner of every living room.

01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:48.080
You had the big old monitor, little 12-inch screen.

01:05:48.240 --> 01:05:51.120
Oh dude, every every episode, every episode.

01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:51.680
There you go.

01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:52.000
Welcome.

01:05:52.240 --> 01:05:55.440
So Harley actually doesn't know how to work technology, and I love it.

01:05:55.520 --> 01:05:58.080
Yeah, I have this really fancy camera, though.

01:05:58.560 --> 01:06:00.800
It's really fancy, it's very, very nice.

01:06:01.120 --> 01:06:03.200
So we got a good look at your pores and they look great.

01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:04.400
So there we go.

01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:21.280
Um mine would be uh uh either um Avenged Sevenfold's afterlife was like my experience with my friends, but I think that like the most exposure during my childhood was the song.

01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:25.120
Um it was by the band Rehab.

01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:26.640
Do you remember Rehab?

01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:29.040
Only vaguely.

01:06:29.520 --> 01:06:33.680
Yeah, it was like it was like a bartender, I think is the name of the song.

01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.320
It was like, I really did it this time.

01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:43.520
Um bartenders, it was bartender song or something, yeah.

01:06:43.680 --> 01:06:44.160
Something like that.

01:06:44.240 --> 01:06:59.920
Yeah, I I watched that music video like hundreds of times in school because it was like the music video that we weren't allowed to watch, so we had like computer class, so we would all pull it up and sit and watch it because it was on CMT, crazily enough.

01:07:00.080 --> 01:07:06.720
Like we weren't allowed to watch it on YouTube, but we could just go to CMT's website and sit and watch it on repeat.

01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:09.680
Yeah, yeah.

01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:11.200
I was fine, dude.

01:07:11.280 --> 01:07:12.880
I was in like fifth grade.

01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:14.400
Sixth grade.

01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:18.960
Did that also influence you to be like, that's what being cool is?

01:07:19.120 --> 01:07:20.880
And now I need to shape my whole personality.

01:07:21.120 --> 01:07:22.080
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:22.800 --> 01:07:25.440
I definitely dress like that guy now, that's for sure.

01:07:25.680 --> 01:07:33.920
Yeah, I'm glad that's a shared experience because like I thought I have to like I have to become that because I nothing else will ever satisfy my need to be cool.

01:07:34.160 --> 01:07:34.480
Right.

01:07:34.720 --> 01:07:35.200
Yes.

01:07:35.520 --> 01:07:38.240
Taylor, do you have a music video that comes to mind?

01:07:38.560 --> 01:07:40.880
Uh Best of Both Worlds by Hannah Montana.

01:07:41.120 --> 01:07:41.760
Oh, okay.

01:07:44.080 --> 01:07:45.920
I had to have two lives.

01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:47.280
Yes.

01:07:47.520 --> 01:07:47.920
Yeah.

01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:56.400
That means you have to like walk through the halls at school and like you know, just mysteriously like around your headphones in the whole thing.

01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:56.640
Yeah.

01:07:56.880 --> 01:07:57.280
Yes.

01:07:57.520 --> 01:08:00.640
I am the main character in my own life, and that's why.

01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:05.520
Like walk through the hallways in school, like as if you're being filmed for a music video the whole time.

01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:06.320
Oh yeah.

01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:15.520
I used to sitting on the bus, like hand on window, raining out looking out like this.

01:08:15.600 --> 01:08:15.760
Yeah.

01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:20.079
Face like up against the window looking at it and listening to the saddest.

01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:22.880
Yeah, dude.

01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:24.319
Uh-huh.

01:08:24.480 --> 01:08:24.720
Okay.

01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:27.279
I'm glad I'm not the only one that like went through that moment.

01:08:27.440 --> 01:08:28.239
Oh, it was.

01:08:28.400 --> 01:08:28.960
Oh, dude.

01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:37.279
It was always it was either it was either like doing that or listening to like the craziest thrash metal I possibly could.

01:08:37.440 --> 01:08:37.680
Yeah.

01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:41.680
Like I was listening to either Slipknot or the Goo Goo dolls every morning.

01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:43.680
Back to back.

01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:44.560
Actually, one demon.

01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:45.279
Oh, yeah.

01:08:45.440 --> 01:08:45.680
Yeah.

01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:47.920
Yeah.

01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:48.800
Uh Dom.

01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:52.319
Mine was a pretty heavy Nemenem phase.

01:08:52.800 --> 01:08:53.279
Oh, that's true.

01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:54.239
That's true.

01:08:54.480 --> 01:08:55.039
Yeah.

01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:58.720
Um, Dom, thank you so much, man, for coming on the show.

01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:00.319
I really, really appreciate it.

01:09:00.400 --> 01:09:01.680
I'm so glad that we can get this on.

01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:04.400
My friends, thank you for having me.

01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:06.800
I uh I'm so glad to be here.

01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:08.319
I love doing this kind of stuff.

01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:14.640
I love like meeting with new people and just connecting over music and like vibe and culture and all that stuff.

01:09:14.800 --> 01:09:16.239
So thank you for inviting me.

01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:17.359
I had an awesome time.

01:09:17.680 --> 01:09:19.119
Yay, yeah, absolutely.

01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:21.600
Um, what do you got going on?

01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:23.359
Where can the people find you?

01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:25.680
It's uh it's all happening right now.

01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:29.840
We uh we we took like a year off almost last year.

01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:32.720
So now we have all this stuff ready for everybody.

01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:33.840
We're kind of rolling.

01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:36.399
Like we just put out like home a couple weeks ago.

01:09:36.479 --> 01:09:38.399
If you haven't heard it, please go listen to it.

01:09:38.559 --> 01:09:48.399
Um, I'm a human person, so you can like send the band a DM or a message or whatever if you want to like you know talk about what you're going through or like just tell me what you think of the song or something.

01:09:48.559 --> 01:09:52.640
I'd love to hear from people and I'd love to just meet people who are interested in this kind of music.

01:09:52.720 --> 01:09:56.319
So um you can, you know, you can find us on socials and all that stuff.

01:09:56.399 --> 01:09:59.279
It's just everything's just like at July crowd, so we're really easy to find.

01:09:59.519 --> 01:10:08.239
Um, but we have that song out and we have um a EP coming on March 27th.

01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:10.880
So I'm not sure when this airs now.

01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:14.079
It'll either be just before or just after, somewhere around the same time.

01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:14.960
So right before.

01:10:15.039 --> 01:10:16.079
This will come out on Monday.

01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:17.599
Let's right before.

01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:18.159
Okay.

01:10:18.559 --> 01:10:21.840
So we've got new music coming, March 27th.

01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:24.559
Um, it's a lot of songs that feel and kind of sound like Lake Home.

01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:25.920
So go listen to Like Home first.

01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:33.920
If it's, you know, if it's something that feels real to you, I think you'll love the rest of the stuff too, because it comes from a very similar, uh, very real place.

01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:35.760
I'm excited to share that with people.

01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:43.279
Uh, I'm a little nervous to share it with people just because it uh it is so um you know cathartic and so like vulnerable.

01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:51.519
But uh I hope you know coming out of that, maybe it can help people absolutely do the things that they're working through, just like I had to as well, and and still am.

01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:53.840
So yeah, um, yeah.

01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:56.159
I'm I'm so excited to listen to it, man.

01:10:56.239 --> 01:10:57.439
I'm so excited.

01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:02.319
Um I I love Like Home, I think that song is so beautiful.

01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:08.479
Um, so if that the rest of the EP is anything like that, I can't wait to listen start to finish.

01:11:08.559 --> 01:11:11.680
Like, um, yeah, I I can't wait, man.

01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:14.880
Uh thank you again so much for being on the show.

01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:22.880
When when not even if when you come to the States, when you guys perform in the States, let me know.

01:11:23.119 --> 01:11:24.559
I want to be there.

01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:25.599
Let's go.

01:11:25.840 --> 01:11:28.000
You will have a golden ticket.

01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:30.559
We will uh we will make sure you're there.

01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:33.760
If we're like anywhere nearby, we'll make sure you guys know.

01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:37.439
And uh we will have a total party because the shows are really fun.

01:11:37.519 --> 01:11:38.479
We love doing the live shows.

01:11:38.559 --> 01:11:45.119
We haven't done any live shows in a while, but we're going to the next province over British Columbia here in Canada, and we're doing some shows in April.

01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:47.760
Um, and it's our first time playing shows in a hot minute.

01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:52.000
So we've brought like better gear, we have like a way better performance.

01:11:52.239 --> 01:11:55.599
Um, it's uh I know it's exciting, and we're gonna be playing all the new stuff, right?

01:11:55.680 --> 01:12:01.680
So it's like yeah, it's just exciting to be in like in the room with people again.

01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:05.760
Um, and I can't wait to bring that to the US as well and share that.

01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:06.960
Uh share that with you guys.

01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:08.319
Yeah, heck yeah, man.

01:12:09.199 --> 01:12:09.680
All right.

01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:10.800
Well, thanks again, man.

01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:13.359
You have yourself a wonderful night, everybody.

01:12:13.519 --> 01:12:15.439
Check out July crowd.

01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:17.039
Absolutely incredible band.

01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:18.159
I can't say it enough, man.

01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:19.119
Thank you again.

01:12:19.599 --> 01:12:19.920
Bless.

01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:21.039
Thank you guys so much.

01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:22.800
I uh I can't wait to see you again.

01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:23.680
Absolutely.

01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:24.640
I'll see ya.

01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:25.599
Bye.

01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:30.720
And then there were two yes, yes, yes, yes.

01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:32.079
You signed it?

01:12:32.720 --> 01:12:33.119
Yes.

01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:34.079
Yeah.

01:12:34.559 --> 01:12:36.479
We gotta we gotta get that sent over to him.

01:12:36.720 --> 01:12:38.880
I'll get his uh info from the PR.

01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:40.720
I'll send it to you tomorrow.

01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:42.319
Cool, cool, cool, cool.

01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:42.880
Cool, cool.

01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:44.399
Um, all right.

01:12:44.559 --> 01:12:45.680
Well right, everybody.

01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:53.119
If you like today's episode, go ahead and give it a big thumbs up, subscribe, and don't forget to hit that bell notification so you can be notified every time we post a new video.

01:12:53.519 --> 01:13:00.399
And as always, check out the Instagram, check out our merch page, check out the Patreon, check out July Crowd, man.

01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:02.159
I really do love their music.

01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:03.760
I'm really, really into it.

01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:04.399
Yeah.

01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:06.640
Um, so please check them out.

01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:09.680
All right, it has been real, guys.

01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:15.599
I am I am tired and hungry, sleeping hungry.

01:13:16.479 --> 01:13:18.479
All right, peace, everybody.