March 11, 2026
New Forensics Reignite Doubts About Kurt Cobain’s Death: The Darkside Of Music
Send in your music story! The Kurt Cobain case never stopped haunting music culture, but the latest round of reporting throws gasoline on the debate: independent forensic claims are once again pushing the idea that what was ruled a suicide in 1994 may have been homicide. We sit with the uncomfortable part, not just the theories, but the logic gaps that keep showing up whenever people reexamine the evidence. We dig into the specific details listeners keep bringing up when they search for answ...
The Kurt Cobain case never stopped haunting music culture, but the latest round of reporting throws gasoline on the debate: independent forensic claims are once again pushing the idea that what was ruled a suicide in 1994 may have been homicide. We sit with the uncomfortable part, not just the theories, but the logic gaps that keep showing up whenever people reexamine the evidence.
We dig into the specific details listeners keep bringing up when they search for answers: missing fingerprints on the weapon, questions about the scene, and why certain facts feel incompatible with a clean “case closed” narrative. We also talk about how internet-era true crime changes the way cold cases are challenged, and why a high-profile death like this draws endless reanalysis from podcasts, researchers, and everyday fans who can’t shake the inconsistencies.
Then we zoom out to the real-world mechanics: what does it actually take to reopen a closed case, and who has the power to make that happen? Along the way we explore motive lanes people argue about, from intimate partner statistics to music industry pressure, plus a few wild hypotheticals that show how wide speculation gets when official clarity feels thin. If you care about Nirvana history, true crime forensics, and the messy intersection of celebrity and policing, this one is for you.
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00:13 - Welcome Back And Listener Reactions
02:28 - Breaking News On Cobain Case
09:14 - Forensics Flags And Missing Fingerprints
14:29 - How Do Cases Get Reopened
23:06 - Who Could Have Done It Allegedly
29:08 - Industry Motives And The Note Theory
39:07 - Wild Theories And Dave Grohl Talk
47:46 - Courtney Love Theory And Final Takeaways
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Hello everyone.
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Welcome back to the dark side of music.
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Danny, how are you, sir?
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I'm doing good.
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Look, I am I'm excited to be here and everything.
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Like just happy to be here if I had to say.
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Um, but I look exhausted and I apologize because I I had I had a show all day slash night yesterday.
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And so like if I'm I'm feeling it, I'm feeling it right now.
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But but I'm really I'm I'm excited to be here.
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I I'm just I just look tired, I swear.
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But anyway, if you're listening to this, you have no idea, and that was just a very confusing thing for me to say.
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But if you're watching the podcast, I look tired, but I'm really excited to be here because this I mean it it's happening so early.
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Our first follow-up episode ever.
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Yeah, yeah.
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It we had to do this one, but before we before we get started, I have to tell you a piece of news.
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Okay.
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So you, sir, are being called the golden retriever of the true crime world.
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Just just so you know, they they've already coined uh uh a phrase for you specifically.
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I'll take it.
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So far, the the biggest uh comment that we've gotten is Danny is the most high energy person to have on a true crime podcast.
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I'm just I'm just excited to be here.
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Like I and and we're talking about really heavy things too, so I feel like I have to like even be like, let's every moment's a moment for comedy.
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Like, I don't know.
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Yes, yeah.
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No, I told uh I told somebody recently that that brought that up.
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Um, I said it's a it's a great mix because when you're talking about something so so heavy with two people who have a sense of humor, you have to have this level of energy because if one of us comes in too low and makes an off-color joke, we are screwed.
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Not only that, but like it's heavy, like we're talking about some real heavy stuff.
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So it's just like I got I gotta balance it out somehow.
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Absolutely.
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Uh, speaking of heavy, um, today is the Kirk Cobain follow-up based off of some breaking news that happened quite recently, uh I believe a month or so ago.
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Yeah, at this point, yeah.
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Um, so they finally came out and said that there is a strong chance that Kirk Cobain's death was in fact not a suicide.
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They believe now that it was in fact a homicide.
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And we're gonna dive into all of the update.
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Right.
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But I am convinced.
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So this news came out a week, I kid you not, seven days to the day after we put up our first episode.
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I am convinced that somebody either in the FBI, CIA, NSA, somebody heard us talk about that specific case and said, huh, I've I've never considered those facts before.
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And I think that we truly broke the the case here.
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I think this is our first claim to fame.
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Well, keep checking the subscriber list.
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If you see one that says like not the FBI or not the Z, then we know they're following along on the podcast.
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Uh but I mean, look, look, that that is awesome that it feels like we broke the story.
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Um, but a lot of the points that we made, I still feel like are pretty obvious.
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And it's not it's not like we're really like making really any stretches.
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Like and we're gonna get into everything, just like you said.
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But a lot of it, and I was saying this to you like when we were looking at the list, and I was like, well, we kind of said that already.
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We kind of said this, we got and it's like, yeah, because they're kind of really like super.
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I just don't understand how there's there was no shadow of a doubt to be able to call it case closed, because there is nothing but shadow of doubt.
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Like, I I I am firmly on it it there there was like even if you couldn't prove that it was a homicide and and on the other side of it, you couldn't 100% prove that it was a suicide.
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Like you to close a case, you really have to be sure.
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Absolutely.
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So, like, I don't know.
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I don't know, just the more that like now that it's like the sec the the the the part two, like the second time we're revisiting this, I'm I'm like even more like they had they didn't have any ounce of doubt the to keep it open or like to re- and the interesting part of this uh from what I've seen is uh unless it there there may be some breaking news that we haven't seen yet, but based off of the research that I've done, they're uh still closed the case.
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Right.
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They haven't reopened so basically an official report came out saying, hey, we think it was a homicide, but we're gonna just keep this one closed.
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How in what situation does that make sense?
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Well it's two different what it's like two different agencies arguing, right?
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Or is it you know, so like a private detective is now looking into like where do we get like the actual because I know what they were saying, like the the police department that closed the case officially is is still saying that there's not enough to reopen it, basically, is what they're saying.
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Yeah, more or less Seattle, Seattle uh police department.
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That's I knew it was Washington, but I just couldn't like figure out exactly.
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I didn't know, but um, but yeah, so like I I don't know what the other agency that kind of came out and said, like, hey, we don't think this was a suicide, but like it's I do believe it was a private investigator that came out and said, based off of the forensic data, we've determined that it more than likely was a homicide.
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Um, but there there was, I see, this is the the world of the news that we live in.
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There was a report that I saw that said they did open up the case, and then while I looked into it, it everything points to no, it's not true.
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They have not opened the case back up.
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Um, they're just kind of rolling with the idea of that it was a homicide.
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I don't like I don't know what goes into being able to reopen a case.
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Like, my I have you know, my knowledge of like police rules and stuff like that is like Brooklyn 99.
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So like I don't have a really good scale for like how difficult is it to reopen a case?
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And and is it like if it is like something like a a murder or a suicide or something, is it like offensive to reopen a case?
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Like type of thing, like question.
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That that's what I'm wondering.
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Like, I just but I I don't know the difficulty either.
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Like, do they have to like go in front of a judge and like plead a case to like, hey, this needs to be reopened?
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So it might be a process.
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That's the other part of it.
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Like, you may be seeing two reports kind of in a line.
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Like this might be a progression of like, oh no, we can't officially reopen it until a judge ruling, but they have to present all of you know all that kind of.
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I just don't know what kind of like I don't know if it's like cases reopen, cases close.
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Like you know what I mean?
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I I don't know what goes into it.
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I wonder, do you think that um that ice tea would come on?
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Is he is he like close enough to because he's kind of involved in both, right?
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He's kind of like a cop and a musician at this point.
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So well, we gotta that's we gotta get him on.
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Can can we get the first guest of the podcast and it be ice team?
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Dude, I I if iced tea comes on the show, I might just like have him do the whole thing and I just sit and listen.
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What if we what if we got iced T on for the first guest of the podcast?
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Yeah, incredible.
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We get along, flash two, we're best friends with Ice T, and then he's it's a it's a three-man podcast moving forward.
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I dude, I am I'm so in.
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I I'll even go on law and order.
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I don't I can't act, but I can play dead pretty well.
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I mean, I I'm the same, I'll do the same, or I'll be just I'll just be like innocent bystander, like yeah, yeah, yeah.
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In the ice cooler.
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All right, so more than 30 years after the front man Kirk Cobain of Nirvana was found dead in April of 1994.
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Uh much scrutiny has reignited one of the ROC's, one of Rocks' most enduring controversies.
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What was once widely accepted as a suicide is now being challenged yet again, not by tabloids alone, but by a team of forensic researchers and independent investigators publishing new analyses of the case.
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So that was the exact headline from uh I believe it was Times magazine, um, in regards to this case and the the new evidence that came out, but the internet flooded with videos and articles, and immediately everybody was like, Oh, we knew it.
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Yeah, um, and kind of like we said, it's it's all of the stuff that we brought up.
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It's it's the the no fingerprint situation, it the we're missing blood splatter.
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He couldn't hold the shotgun with that much heroin in his system.
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Um he purchased the the shotgun.
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So him walking from said gun store home with no fingerprints on this weapon is impossible.
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Yeah, like to me, that's the biggest red flag of anything.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I I was gonna say, I was gonna say the exact same thing.
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Like, look, I know people build up a tolerance to drugs.
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Like, you use a lot of drugs, you can build up a crazy tolerance, and and there are you know, you know, outlier cases where you know someone has has really built up a tolerance so they can have a crazy amount and still be functional, not passing for normal, but they can still be functional.
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I'm not saying that's the the case in in this, I'm just saying you can explain that away with that if you want to.
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But fingerprints, if you commit suicide, you can't rub clean the thing that you use to commit suicide.
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Like there's you can't.
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Unless look, and I started looking at it this way unless they just took out certain evidence.
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Like Kurt Cobain had gloves on.
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No one's ever said anything, or like you know what I mean?
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Like, unless they just leave that kind of stuff out, which I there's no way they left it out, but like you know what I mean?
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Like you bring up a good point though.
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What if what if there were fingerprints and that evidence is just missing?
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That's uh missing, like that's the same the yeah, especially on a case that high profile.
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Like it it wasn't like uh I don't even know, like uh I don't know, a drug lord in Pennsylvania.
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You know what I mean?
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It was it was Kirk Cobain.
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So in the height of his career, like he was the biggest thing.
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Um so yeah, I don't know, man.
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I I think the other conspiracy that's rolling around the internet right now is that he didn't purchase the weapon, that somebody stuck the receipt in his coat pocket.
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Because there's there's not technically like video of him purchasing the weapon, there's not video of him showing up with the weapon, but they've always said he purchased it on his way from the rehab facility um on his way to his house because he had the receipt on him.
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But so I know there's weird laws in every state concerning guns and stuff like that, and I also know there's different laws on the type of guns and stuff like that, but don't they have to do a bat like a quick background check anytime you buy a gun?
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Like I think that would be now I feel like that would be bare bones minimum.
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Like, yeah, because I know there's a three-day waiting for certain guns and in certain states and stuff like that, but like even if like because I I I mean I don't know.
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I I have no guns of my own.
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Um, but even if it was like I'm gonna go down to Walmart to buy a shotgun, I feel like they would have to run an ID or a background check before they're letting me walk away, or maybe they still let me walk away, but like they're like, hey, uh, if anything happens, this is this is the time he bought it.
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Like, you know what I mean?
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Like, I I feel like it's that way now, but I think in the 90s it might not have been because when I was 10 years old, I I come from a family of hunters.
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So when I was 10 years old, it was like a mandatory rite of passage.
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You're gonna go out, you're gonna get your hunting license, you're gonna go hunting.
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And I was able to purchase a shotgun as a 12-year-old at a Walmart with my parents, that's and they just handed it to me.
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And that's crazy.
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So I don't know, man.
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I think it's different now.
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But but did they check your your your hunter license?
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Did they check your parents' stuff?
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I think they checked my mom's ID, but they didn't they definitely didn't run a background check.
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It was more of just like somebody over the age of 21 has to purchase the weapon, but yeah, there was no paperwork involved, nothing.
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It was just like, here you go, kid.
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Wow, that has always bothered me.
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So wow, I always thought that was like, hey, that's a little far, don't you think?
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Um, so I think it was just more of a relaxed time.
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You figure this was also before like 9-11.
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This was before um a lot of the major mass shootings in the United States.
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So probably was just a more like, yeah, here you go, man.
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Welcome to America, Second Amendment.
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Holy crap.
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But I mean, yeah, I guess, like, like I said, there's there's stuff that I mean, it it's just more of like seriously, there's no shadow of a doubt you were able to close the case.
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Like, yeah.
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We have this many questions, and we don't even have like we weren't there, we weren't able to like look at the real evidence and and stuff like that, like that the police collected and everything, and still we we had we were able to close the case without a shadow of a doubt.
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That I was isn't is that the beauty of the internet though?
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Like, oh yeah, internet is a terrible place for a lot of reasons, but when you think of crime or just like shut closed cases with today's technology and everything, and especially the internet and everybody being obsessed with crime as a subject, like we how many cases, not just in music but in general, have been completely landscape changed by a couple of people talking about it on the internet.
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Yeah, I mean, it and there's a ton of podcasts that have actually been able to, you know, like get the right evidence and and give it to the right person that that can actually either a reopen the case or can actually you know run the lead on it and and stuff like that.
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Right.
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Um, yeah, I mean I think it's yeah, like exactly like what you said, it's great for for stuff like that where like you you can really use every resource at the tip of your fingers.
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Um I was gonna I I completely forgot what I was gonna say.
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I was gonna, it was something along that.
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Oh, have you ever seen they had there's this show on Hulu that's exactly what happens is it's uh three people in an apartment building start uh a true crime podcast.
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Yeah, a crime that happened in their building.
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It's wasn't uh Selena Gomez is on that show, right?
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And Steve Martin and Martin Short Martin Short, yeah.
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Only murders in the building or something like that.
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Yeah, it was it's a the first season's great.
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I haven't watched all the seasons.
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The first season's great, though.
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Um, but it's it's I mean, fictional, but it's exactly like that.
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They they start a podcast and they solve a murder that happened in their building through the podcast.
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Do you think what do you think that says about the um not judicial system per se, but like the policing system in the 90s and and prior?
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Like, I I don't want to I don't want to necessarily say that it was lazy, but like I feel like it was one of those like all right, well we don't know what happened, so that's it.
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Like I feel like they didn't they didn't take the extra steps on a lot of this of uh investigations uh are concerned.
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Uh I feel like uh the system kind of I'm trying to find like a more like politically correct way to say what I'm trying to say, but like I don't want to call it laziness, but it kind of is laziness.
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Like, how did how did we have a system in the 90s and 80s and 70s where they were just like, all right, well, I guess that's that man.
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Let's move on.
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Like, like I said, I don't know what goes into a hundred percent, you know, closing a case, reopening a case.
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Like, I don't know what that process is.
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And I'd be really interested, like I'm I'm more saying it of a of like uh I'm interested in in kind of learning what that process is so that I can understand.
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So, like, you know, for future stuff, we maybe we can understand of oh, they are in the process of opening this, like even for this, we don't know.
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Like, maybe they are, maybe we just don't know.
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Maybe that process actually does take a long amount of time.
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But to answer that, I mean what what what you were kind of saying, I I understand exactly what you're what you're saying.
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I don't know, we just don't like know where their headspace at or where it was at.
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I I I agree that I don't think, you know, from a standpoint of being able to look back on this to say there wasn't any doubt here.
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Like I I and and maybe that's you know, maybe that's just because we do have all of this other technology and all of this other stuff at at at the tip of our fingers to kind of you know look at everything and other people to discuss it and other people to to bring up more stuff that goes, yeah, that doesn't make sense.
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Like maybe we're just you know, that's that is you know what we've grown used to and accustomed to and and stuff like that.
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So it's like way more obvious.
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It's almost like, you know, we're almost taking for granted having all this access and having other people that can kind of bounce a theory and and we turn things into like this, you know, crowd-funded kind of not crowd-funded, but cra crowd-collected, you know, theories and and stuff like that, that that we can kind of more you know get a little bit further than like you know, one police department could, or you know, one investigator could, and stuff like that.
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So yeah, I I know exactly what you're saying, though.
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It's frustrating to go, really, really, yeah.
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I mean, no doubt again.
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If it was like a drug lord in Alabama, I could understand kind of just being like, well, sucks, man.
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I don't know, it is what it is.
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It's Kirk Cobain, like it's the equivalent of John Lennon, which also John Lennon's another one that we could go over.
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Like, yeah, it's just this idea of like, all right, I guess that's case closed.
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It's like, what?
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Well, uh, but yeah, so I I am not gonna get frustrated at the I don't know when they actually officially close the case, but the 90s cops that closed the case.
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I'm not gonna officially get it frustrated at them.
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I would be more frustrated at the people now if there is like, you know, and and this we may not know, we may not have a follow-up to this follow-up for you know a year or two years or something like that.
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Cause like I said, we don't know that process of what it is like to reopen it, or even more so on that what amount of evidence you need to be able to, you know, start the process of of reopening something?
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Is it just discretion?
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Like I could literally say.
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I think it was a murder.
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And then they can like, if I convince the right person, they reopen it.
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Or do I have to like really bring in, do I have to go to these people that did these forensic studies and say, like, okay, what do we got?
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What is like, what can we do without a shadow of doubt that, or put in a shadow of doubt to reopen this case?
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Right.
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But I will be more frustrated at the Seattle Police Department if this never gets reopened than I was at the 90s uh Seattle Police Station for closing it in the first place, like type of thing.
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One fun thing that comes out of all of this, though, on the last episode, we couldn't really because when you when you talk about cases like this, you have to base it off of the facts at hand, and we couldn't really dive into the details of like who may have done it because technically it was ruled a suicide.
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Now fair game.
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So who do you think if somebody had done it?
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Who do you think may could have possibly done it?
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Allegedly.
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Allegedly.
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Like flash allegedly up on the screen as much as a bigger one.
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I mean, look, I don't know.
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We're both thinking it, but I know, and I don't want to be the one to say it.
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I mean what is the statistic for the spouse always does it?
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Oh, isn't it isn't it something crazy?
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It's I'm gonna Google it real quick, but I think it's something crazy like it's a high percentage.
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So I'm just I without saying it, I'm just saying that that's probably my pick.
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I also think like, you know, there was things to gain, you know, that may have not been gained had their relationship ever been apart.
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Well this statistic is crazy.
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Approximately 15% of all global homicides are committed by an intimate partner.
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Out of that 15%, 50% of those homicides were committed by the female spouse of the uh 40 to 50 percent of the victims are killed by their female partners.
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You're making me real nervous to ever want to date again.
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That's a wild.
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Just letting you know, like that's a wild statistic.
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Yeah.
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That I didn't even know it was that high.
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I just knew it was like they always jokingly say that on like Brooklyn 99 or or any of the like the cop drama shows and stuff like that.
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It's always it's always the the spouse.
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It's always the spouse.
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Yeah, so I knew the per I knew there had to be like a decent percentage.
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