Nov. 24, 2025

Interview with "A New Violet"

Interview with "A New Violet"

Send in your music story! Ever want to throw a bag in the car, leave the stale routine behind, and floor it toward something that feels alive again? That’s the pulse beating through our conversation with Beth from A New Violet—a rock vocalist with a punk heart—fresh off the electricity of Warped Tour and deep in the craft of songs that move fast, hit hard, and actually say something. We dive into 66, a highway anthem that doubles as a personal dare: escape the four walls, grab the person who...

Send in your music story!

Ever want to throw a bag in the car, leave the stale routine behind, and floor it toward something that feels alive again? That’s the pulse beating through our conversation with Beth from A New Violet—a rock vocalist with a punk heart—fresh off the electricity of Warped Tour and deep in the craft of songs that move fast, hit hard, and actually say something.

We dive into 66, a highway anthem that doubles as a personal dare: escape the four walls, grab the person who gets you—or go alone—and chase a life that breathes. Beth opens up about the layers hidden in the lyric, from nostalgia and romance to self-motivation when you’re stuck. We unpack the new EP, The Heat Is Getting Hotter, calling out the line the heat is getting hotter, I’m burnt for a reason and exploring how the best hooks invite you back to discover the message underneath. Conformity takes the punk crown on the tracklist, a fast, defiant refusal to live by someone else’s plan or timeline, while Runaway channels a real friendship rift into a cathartic sing-along that still hits after the dust settles.

Along the way, we get into the studio process behind This Is My Life with Orlando’s Red Lion Studio, talk self-taught guitar roots, and debate hooks versus bridges—the hooks pull you in, but the bridge can turn a good song great. Beth shares why genre boxes feel too tight, how rock muscle and punk attitude can live in the same chorus, and why evolving sound is a feature, not a flaw. If you’re hunting for new rock music with real guitars, big choruses, and lyrics that stand for something, you’ll find plenty to add to your queue.

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01:04 - Welcome And Guest Intro

01:32 - Warped Tour Return And Highlights

04:35 - Defining A New Violet’s Sound

05:20 - Favorite Sets And The Live Energy

08:40 - Route 66 And Writing The Anthem

11:21 - Layers Of Meaning In 66

13:50 - The New EP And Standout Lyrics

17:40 - Do Bandmates Hear The Words

19:24 - Conformity And Punk Attitude

23:50 - Instrument Roots And Self‑Teaching

27:18 - Runaway And A Friendship Rift

31:10 - Anime Tattoos And Stories

35:20 - Production Process On This Is My Life

38:10 - Singles, Catchiness, And Next EP Plans

43:30 - Genre Blending And Artistic Freedom

48:10 - Fan Expectations And Staying True

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I don't work for you to have a podcast.

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What's up, everybody?

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Welcome back to the show.

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I am your host, Harley, and today joined by a super special guest, uh, Beth from the band A New Violet.

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Beth, how are you?

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I'm pretty good.

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Uh a little tired.

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I've been out all day, all weekend at Warp Tour.

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So Yeah, that's incredible.

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Yeah.

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Um, so how was Warp Tour?

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It was really, really good.

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Really good.

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I'm so glad they brought it back.

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You and me both.

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I unfortunately wasn't able to attend any of them this year.

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Um, but I'm I'm hoping that things change next year for me.

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Um, were you an attendee or were you playing?

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Oh no, I I I wanted to play, but um actually my band tried out for the Battle of the Bands thing, but we we didn't get nominated to play, so that's crazy.

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That's crazy.

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Yeah, I I mean it is what it is.

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You guys are incredible.

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I I absolutely love that you're bringing back like old school, just pure rock and roll.

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Um, it's it's a really cool, like I don't know, I don't know how people could classify you as pop punk.

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I I'm not hearing that on my end.

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Um, it's more of like a hard rock or just like like pure rock to me.

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Um maybe it's something to do with your vocals.

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You do have a little bit of a scream in there on occasion.

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Um, but no, it's it's such a cool sound to see kind of coming back, and you guys are really keeping rock and roll alive, and I I love that.

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It's it's awesome.

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Um yeah, thank you.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Uh, what was your favorite band over in Warp Tour this year?

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Uh well, there's a few bands that I saw that I really loved.

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Like I've always loved Yellow Card, um Ocean Avenue.

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I got to see them live for the first time.

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Um, Pennywise.

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Incredible band, yeah.

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Classic.

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Uh Bowling for Soup was playing today.

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Uh even like Kill Switch Engage, they freaking rot.

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Like, I'm not normally I'm not really into like metal or like hard rock like that, but like man, they they like destroyed the state.

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It was so good.

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Like work tour is so much better because you can like walk right up and be right in front of the band as opposed to like going to one of these amphitheaters and you pay like so much money for tickets and you're so far back, or it's like you have to be seated.

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It just feels so alive and like I don't know.

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I I like my my heart is happy right now.

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Just the feeling of warp tour this year overall was insane.

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Yeah, yeah.

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No, it's absolutely uh like like I saw in the lineup, and um we've had a few guests on the show that were playing this year, uh Jarrett Reddick from Bullying for Soup, um, and then a band called Keep Flying.

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I don't know if they were at the one that you went to today, um, but they uh they were there uh in DC.

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Um and yeah, I it was it seemed so awesome.

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I I really wish I had been able to go, but I hope that I hope the roster gets even better next year.

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I hope that uh I hope that you guys are able to be there.

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You know what I mean?

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That would be awesome.

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I hope so too.

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I I really want to play warp tour.

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I've always wanted to play warp tour.

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I've just not been I haven't like got my act together enough until like now, like how much more serious I am about my music.

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So I think that will we might have a better shot because I'm really like pushing our music and uh putting a lot more effort into it.

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Yeah.

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Hopefully speaking speaking of the music, let's talk about 66.

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Um, have you been on Route 66 before?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So I have never been.

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Is is it a cool trip?

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It's awesome.

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Yeah.

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Um it's well worth the trip.

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You you've got to do.

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I think every single person that lives here in the United States or it has access to that road, you've got to do it at least once in your life, you know, like take a whole trip from across, like up the whole thing, and then back down.

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And um, I also was on like I I can't remember the the name of the road, but it's like right in the middle of the United States.

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It's not 66, but it's another one.

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Oh like through Texas.

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Oh no, I didn't know that.

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I I can't remember the name of it, but it's a really scary road to go on.

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Um especially when you're alone.

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So what what would you say 66 is about lyrically?

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Just the adventure of it?

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Yeah, it's an adventure song.

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It's like, fuck this life, fuck everything.

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I'm throw I'm throwing it all away, and I'm just going on a road trip.

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And it's got like that nostalgic feeling to it.

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It also has uh a little bit of romance because it's like the lyrics are like with my head close to yours, you know, like you're on a road trip with somebody that you want to be on a road trip with.

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It could be like your best friend, but um, it could be like a lover too, like you guys are just like throwing burning the world behind you and just going.

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So I when I listened to it, I thought of it as like uh a little deeper.

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I thought of it as a way of like saying, like, almost in a in a motivational way to yourself, like I just I gotta get off my ass and do something.

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Like like that idea of just like I'm sad, I'm depressed, I'm I'm a homebody, and and I gotta I gotta get out there and just do anything, literally anything besides what I'm doing right now.

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Yeah, and that's the great thing about the song.

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I think too, it's it's not just linear.

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There's like so many different uh layers to it.

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It could be you could make it into like running away with like someone you want to run away with, or it could be a song about like just burning everything behind you and being like, I don't even care anymore.

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Just rip your hair out and like throw a bag in the car and fuck off to the world.

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Was was there any sort of um relationship element to it that kind of drove you to write that?

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No, not at all.

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I really just like that it this is that part of the lyric where it's like um with my head close to yours, like that's that's just um something I added in there because it it just sounded kind of neat, you know.

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Like, if you're not coming with me, I'm going without you.

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Yeah.

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Um, so you're like, I'm I'm sleeping on a dirty floor, I'm writing lyric.

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I'm just like, I'm ready to experience something bigger than just these four walls, you know.

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Um, it's also like just kind of like the the vibe of going to different places and just experiencing that place for the moment and then moving on to the next thing.

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And and that was the line for me that kind of was like the you're talking to yourself in that moment.

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Like, hey, I'm going with with or without you.

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I'm going.

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You know what I mean?

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That alter ego of like, we're doing this, no matter what you think, we're doing this.

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Um let's talk about the new EP in its entirety, uh, specifically over again.

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Um there's there's a line in that song, and I I was I I was here looking this up because I wanted to get the line right, but I can't find the lyrics.

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Um there's a line that you have in there that's like the heat is getting hot, and and that's why I'm burnt, or something like something along those lines.

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I love that line so much.

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Um think of what it is.

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Um I have 66 in my head right now.

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So I'm trying to like switch over to over again.

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Um well, wait around for another seas.

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The heat is getting hotter.

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I'm burnt for a reason.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, I love that line.

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That's such a fun line.

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How did you how did you come up with that?

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I don't know how I come up with the like the majority of my music.

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I uh really just channel it in, like funnel it in somehow.

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Uh it comes in random moments, you know?

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Like I could be writing the song and then I'm I put it down and then like I just start getting more lyrics that come in.

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I'm like, oh, that sounds that's gonna sound good.

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Write it in there.

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We try it out.

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You wrote that studio CPO when you wrote that line, did you like have a moment where you're writing it down and you're like, oh, this shit's good?

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Yeah, yeah.

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But it's like you never know if anybody's gonna catch anything that you write.

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Because I I've asked my bandmates, you know, I'm like, um, like they don't even know what this song is about, you know, like they before they were in the band, I because I wrote all the music.

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Um, and some of the guys that came in later, I was like, you know the lyric that goes da-da-da-da-da.

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And they're like, What, what?

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I'm like, have you listened to the lyrics of the song?

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Or you just like he's they're like, No, I didn't listen.

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So I'm like, okay, um, this is all in vain then.

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Like, well, y'all are just what are y'all doing?

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Listen to the music.

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Listen to the whole thing, not just not just the music, like, listen to the lyrics, what the song is about, feel it.

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But anyway, yeah, I never know if anybody catches anything that I write.

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I'm so I'm glad I did.

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I'm I'm a songwriter too, so I I immediately jump into lyrics and and start analyzing and dissecting everything.

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And when like a clever line hits me, I just I gravitate towards it.

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And that one I was like, I kept playing it over and over.

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I was like, oh, that's really good.

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That's really clever.

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Um again, you your your whole EP is very like adventurous, it's very um like bubbly and and like going out.

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You have this like very like going out energy.

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Um except for conformity, in my opinion.

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Yeah.

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What what makes conformity different on the EP?

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Oh, conformity um really stands out on its own because I I think it's a little that one's like definitely more of a harder hitting punk song.

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Um it also that's just how I feel in general.

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Like I hate being boxed in, I hate time.

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You know, I think time's stupid.

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I think that it's I know that sound sounds dumb, but like time with um like the way that the world go, like, oh, you have to do this this way, you have to do it this way.

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Like that's pukey feeling for me.

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Um, so that song conformity is like I'm not doing anything you say.

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I'm gonna live.

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I live for me.

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Like when I die, when I'm not here anymore, um, who's who's gonna care what I was doing?

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You know what I'm saying?

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Right.

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Live your life the way you want, not for another man.

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Uh the whatever they're doing over there in in general, these world leaders and these men that think that they know how to run a country.

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I'm talking about women too, like just men in general, people.

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They're it they're telling, they're trying to tell us how to live our life and like what we need to do.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like, why do I have to live like that?

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So conformity is about not conforming to anything anybody has to say or about who you are, what you're about, and really living freely to who you are.

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Um, so it's just a big attitude to that.

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It yeah, it and it's like this attack on um suburban society, you know what I mean?

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That that traditional suburban American life, the the white picket fins life.

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Um I feel like you you kind of nailed the idea of like that that is kind of an outdated mindset, you know?

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Really is, yeah.

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Yeah, and I feel like your song really speaks to like that's just that's just not how things are anymore.

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We don't we don't have to be this version of everybody doesn't have to be the same.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I I love when people are just themselves and not trying to be something because they're told to be or they're afraid to not be that way.

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Um, so I I really, really, really was born like that.

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I came out that way.

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So it's not it's not like I just was like, yay, I like punk music and I'm gonna be punk rock.

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Like I was born punk rock, like ask my parents, you know, they they couldn't keep me contained for anything.

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So um I that's why I love that's why I call my music punk too, because like even if it has like more rock elements or whatever, punk is like the thing that drives the music, you know what I mean.

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Like the punk attitude, the punk um vibes and the what I'm saying in my music.

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So yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think the the the music screams rock, but the lyrics scream punk.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, I'm not traditional punk, it's not like I mean I could write songs like that or all day, but I like a little more depth to the music, something that people can feel.

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So now are you an instrumentalist yourself?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Uh what what do you play?

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I play guitar, uh a little bit of keyboard, but that's just the kind of fine stuff.

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Um, I can play bass, but I'm not really into bass.

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So I would say guitar is like my main instrument.

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Yeah.

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How long have you been playing?

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Well, I picked up a guitar when I was a kid, so it was an old guitar from a uh what do you call it?

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Yard sale.

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Oh nice.

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And it I think my mom picked it up or something, and I I just started strumming it because I used to just make up songs when I was a kid, just verbally making up songs.

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So um when I got the guitar, then I could really like start writing stuff and I didn't know how to play at all.

00:15:51.799 --> 00:15:54.200
Um, but I self-taught when I was a teenager.

00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:57.960
So like I started really learning how to play guitar.

00:15:58.439 --> 00:15:59.960
Yeah, I'm also self-taught.

00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:02.200
I I started around like 13.

00:16:02.439 --> 00:16:05.240
Um I started from guitar hero, actually.

00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:06.679
So I was playing guitar hero.

00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:07.320
Yeah, yeah.

00:16:07.480 --> 00:16:07.720
Yeah.

00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:37.330
I was like, yeah, I could probably do this.

00:16:38.050 --> 00:16:41.410
I know, I I could never get into guitar hero because I was like, this is lame.

00:16:41.490 --> 00:16:43.009
I'm just pressing buttons.

00:16:43.810 --> 00:16:44.850
But yeah.

00:16:45.810 --> 00:16:49.970
Um, let's talk about Runaway.

00:16:50.050 --> 00:16:54.290
When I first heard the song, I thought it was going to be a cover.

00:16:54.530 --> 00:16:56.770
It ended up not being a cover.

00:16:56.930 --> 00:17:00.450
Um, tell me about like the lyrical story of Runaway.

00:17:02.290 --> 00:17:03.650
Oh, we're on Runaway now.

00:17:03.730 --> 00:17:04.049
Okay.

00:17:06.210 --> 00:17:09.809
So uh my friend and I actually had a big falling out.

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Um and so that song was kind of inspired by that friendship and our argument, like our fight, like um, like her talking shit, and then me responding with like, come on, bring your guns out, you know.

00:17:30.129 --> 00:17:40.290
So Runaway was yeah, that's how that that song became something because it was inspired by like a big fight I got with my friend, but now we're friends again, so it worked worked out perfect.

00:17:40.370 --> 00:17:44.210
And when she heard it, she's like, I knew Runaway was about me.

00:17:45.730 --> 00:17:53.490
I was like, Well, it wasn't all about you, but it was definitely inspired by our big fight we got in because it it was just like off the wall.

00:17:53.570 --> 00:17:55.890
I'm like, what did where did this come what happened?

00:17:55.970 --> 00:17:56.370
You know?

00:17:56.610 --> 00:17:56.770
Right.

00:17:56.930 --> 00:18:00.770
So I was like, all right, you're gonna be you're gonna be the muse for this song.

00:18:02.610 --> 00:18:08.770
Now, uh, do you do you plan on doing a follow-up to Runaway since the relationship has been rekindled?

00:18:10.130 --> 00:18:12.610
It's hard for me to write songs that are nice.

00:18:12.770 --> 00:18:13.570
I don't know.

00:18:14.210 --> 00:18:18.370
I usually write a lot of my songs through angst or like things that bother me.

00:18:18.690 --> 00:18:21.010
Um, but maybe I don't know.

00:18:21.090 --> 00:18:23.010
Maybe I should try a different avenue.

00:18:24.050 --> 00:18:28.690
I think that would be that would be a cool uh sequel in the next DP for sure.

00:18:28.930 --> 00:18:29.570
Yeah.

00:18:29.890 --> 00:18:30.290
You know what?

00:18:30.530 --> 00:18:32.290
Maybe I'll stick song.

00:18:32.530 --> 00:18:33.810
Yeah, there you go.

00:18:34.050 --> 00:18:36.770
Um I want to talk about your tattoos.

00:18:36.850 --> 00:18:41.010
I I'm trying to the the sleeve you have there is so cool.

00:18:41.330 --> 00:18:42.210
Oh, thanks.

00:18:42.370 --> 00:18:45.010
Yeah, I've got uh I really love anime.

00:18:45.170 --> 00:18:49.410
I've always been big anime, uh just inspired.

00:18:49.490 --> 00:18:51.090
Like I used to just draw.

00:18:51.810 --> 00:18:58.370
Um, like I'd get those books from like Barnes and Noble and draw anime, yeah.

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So I was I just love anime.

00:19:00.930 --> 00:19:04.130
So I've got like a pull-up doll here.

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Uh it's kind of like anime style.

00:19:06.690 --> 00:19:08.050
Got another one here.

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She's like falling from the sky.

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It's very like cause.

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She's meditating.

00:19:16.050 --> 00:19:16.690
Nice.

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Yeah.

00:19:18.930 --> 00:19:23.010
And the guy that did this tattoo, he was on meth when he did it.

00:19:23.730 --> 00:19:24.610
I didn't know.

00:19:24.690 --> 00:19:26.770
Like my friend, she's like, You want to go get a tattoo?

00:19:27.090 --> 00:19:27.490
Like, sure.

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So she brings me to this guy that's really like he's a meth addict.

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And I was a little worried when he started, but he was a pretty good artist.

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Um, but the reason I bring that up is because he added something to it.

00:19:40.530 --> 00:19:41.410
Right here.

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I don't know if you can see it.

00:19:43.330 --> 00:19:43.730
Oh, wow.

00:19:43.810 --> 00:19:44.690
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:45.010 --> 00:19:46.930
This is not supposed to be there.

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Um, it's just like her hair, and she's just like, you know, I never went back.

00:19:52.130 --> 00:19:55.410
I didn't see like I never finished it because I was like, I'm not going back to him.

00:19:55.650 --> 00:20:02.210
Um, but yeah, this here, I I found out later that he tattooed that on everyone.

00:20:02.450 --> 00:20:09.810
Every tattoo he did on somebody, he would add that, like holes like in the tattoo.

00:20:09.890 --> 00:20:11.730
So it was like a signature of his.

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That's crazy.

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And I thought of it as like holes in his brain, like meth holes.

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Right, right.

00:20:18.690 --> 00:20:21.570
That's the way that I like when I look at that, that's what it means.

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It reminds me of you're into anime.

00:20:28.770 --> 00:20:31.330
What uh did you grow up watching any at all?

00:20:32.050 --> 00:20:36.290
Uh Howells Movie in Castle was like a huge- Yeah, there you go.

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That's like one of my all-time favorite animes, and like anything from him.

00:20:41.570 --> 00:20:44.530
I I I can't remember his name.

00:20:44.690 --> 00:20:46.290
The oh yeah.

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Um I always forget how to say it.

00:20:49.650 --> 00:20:55.090
Uh Ghibli, Studio Ghibli is the studio, but I don't remember his actual name.

00:20:56.050 --> 00:20:56.610
Yeah.

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Uh anything by him, like Spirited Away and things like that.

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Yep.

00:21:00.450 --> 00:21:05.890
But I just find anime like on Netflix, and I'll just watch certain ones.

00:21:05.970 --> 00:21:10.530
And have you seen um have you seen Flow with the Cat?

00:21:11.170 --> 00:21:15.250
I started watching that, but I have not got into it yet.

00:21:15.330 --> 00:21:19.330
Because I'm I'm working on like a few other ones, but yes.

00:21:19.810 --> 00:21:22.130
So I have a I have a one-year-old, right?

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And and he loves cats.

00:21:24.610 --> 00:21:27.250
So I was like, let's watch this cat, you know.

00:21:27.490 --> 00:21:28.450
Hey, there you go.

00:21:28.610 --> 00:21:29.170
Yeah.

00:21:29.490 --> 00:21:31.890
Um, that's awesome.

00:21:32.690 --> 00:21:33.570
Tell your son.

00:21:33.730 --> 00:21:36.690
I know he's one, but like cats are awesome.

00:21:36.850 --> 00:21:37.970
I love them too.

00:21:38.370 --> 00:21:43.090
Well, not to spoil it for you, but that movie is so sad.

00:21:43.410 --> 00:21:51.970
Like, 20 minutes in, I was like, completely invested in this cat's world, and like making sure this cat stayed alive through the whole movie was so important to me.

00:21:52.850 --> 00:21:54.690
Like, it was it's crazy.

00:21:54.930 --> 00:21:57.250
There's not enough information about that movie.

00:21:57.330 --> 00:22:03.010
When you play it, it's supposed to be like you know, just like a family movie, and it's so sad.

00:22:03.970 --> 00:22:05.890
Um, shout out Flo though.

00:22:05.970 --> 00:22:07.090
Everybody watch Flo.

00:22:07.810 --> 00:22:12.850
Okay, yeah, I literally I turned it on, but then I didn't end up like watching it.

00:22:13.090 --> 00:22:16.850
So now that you tell me that, I don't know if I can watch it.

00:22:17.810 --> 00:22:25.170
Like if it's anything to do with it, it's beautiful, it's not like sad, like there's nothing, no, no, no deaths, no deaths.

00:22:25.410 --> 00:22:26.450
Okay, all right, all right.

00:22:26.930 --> 00:22:28.290
Beautiful, sad story.

00:22:28.930 --> 00:22:29.650
Yeah, yeah.

00:22:29.810 --> 00:22:30.770
Cat survives.

00:22:30.930 --> 00:22:33.410
All of the all of the beloved animals survive.

00:22:34.690 --> 00:22:41.170
Um so let's jump into uh This is my life.

00:22:41.490 --> 00:22:46.130
The the first track, track one, comes in real hard.

00:22:46.450 --> 00:22:50.370
Um what was the the melodic direction?

00:22:50.530 --> 00:22:57.330
Do you get do you have any insight on like the actual instrumentation or do you just come in with the vocals?

00:22:57.890 --> 00:23:01.010
On that song, I actually worked on that song with my producer.

00:23:01.090 --> 00:23:02.770
Um awesome.

00:23:03.250 --> 00:23:09.490
Yeah, he has a studio called Red Lion Studio, and I've been working with him since runaway.

00:23:09.810 --> 00:23:13.490
So 2021, like we have such a good working relationship.

00:23:13.650 --> 00:23:14.450
I love that guy.

00:23:14.530 --> 00:23:22.850
He's uh I would say hands down top, top, top producer in Orlando.

00:23:23.490 --> 00:23:24.130
Really?

00:23:25.890 --> 00:23:26.610
Interesting.

00:23:26.850 --> 00:23:29.250
Um him and I worked on that together.

00:23:29.410 --> 00:23:35.890
We sat down and started working on instrumental and like kickback ideas, and then we came up with that together.

00:23:36.130 --> 00:23:41.810
Um but yeah, he I he's just so wonderful to work with.

00:23:41.890 --> 00:23:46.210
And I I can't really go into details about what we did instrumentally.

00:23:46.450 --> 00:24:00.770
Um because once we wrote like the basic part of it, he went in and he started adding like a couple new things to it to give it like more like the bells and whistles to it, which you probably thinking about.

00:24:01.250 --> 00:24:02.290
Yeah, yeah.

00:24:02.610 --> 00:24:10.690
Um, but the song itself is so like a perfect way to start the rest of the album.

00:24:11.010 --> 00:24:17.170
Um what what would you say is your favorite song from this EP like to work on?

00:24:19.010 --> 00:24:25.490
Uh the favor my favorite song to work well, 66 is actually gonna go on our next CP, just so you know.

00:24:25.970 --> 00:24:29.570
Um everything else is just the heat is getting hotter.

00:24:29.970 --> 00:24:33.250
Um my favorite to work on.

00:24:38.290 --> 00:24:41.090
I think it might have been This Is My Life.

00:24:42.290 --> 00:24:43.970
That might have been my favorite one.

00:24:44.530 --> 00:24:48.690
Yeah, I mean it it's such a it's like a brilliant way to to intro in everything.

00:24:48.850 --> 00:24:50.770
Like I said, it comes in real hard.

00:24:51.010 --> 00:24:55.010
Um it's a really smooth transition into Runaway.

00:24:55.650 --> 00:25:08.930
Um do you feel that on this EP Runaway would be kind of the the single per se on the album, or would you say um over again?

00:25:09.650 --> 00:25:15.890
I think over again is more cat catchy, but I think Runaway is a better song.

00:25:16.450 --> 00:25:19.490
Yeah, Runaway is this like the single for sure.

00:25:19.730 --> 00:25:22.130
Yeah, yeah, hell yeah.

00:25:22.370 --> 00:25:26.610
Um and that came out before the EP, so kind of like 66.

00:25:27.250 --> 00:25:28.210
Yeah, yeah.

00:25:28.530 --> 00:25:32.610
So what are we looking for on this next EP?

00:25:34.850 --> 00:25:35.490
I don't know.

00:25:35.570 --> 00:25:36.530
What are we looking for?

00:25:36.930 --> 00:25:37.490
Tell me.

00:25:37.730 --> 00:25:44.530
Well, so so are we able to talk about any of the other tracks other than 66?

00:25:46.370 --> 00:25:49.810
I have nothing completely recorded yet.

00:25:49.970 --> 00:25:51.810
It's all demos right now.

00:25:52.770 --> 00:26:25.010
I'm going in don't mark my don't mark my words, but planning on January being the month we're putting the we're gonna put all our work into studio because right now I'm still working working a little like I have this song I want to do, but I'm also uh adding and working with other things before I go into the studio because I want to bring a lot more than what I did the last time, so I'm a little more prepared.

00:26:25.970 --> 00:26:35.330
But yeah, I have songs that I have songs that I've written that are uh just demoed right now that I've I wrote in my garage.

00:26:35.570 --> 00:26:39.970
So uh same kind of direction as 66.

00:26:41.730 --> 00:26:52.210
So it's got like a nostalgic vibe to it, but this one of the songs that I'm talking about right now is more it's like more pop, um, more pop punk.

00:26:52.370 --> 00:27:06.290
It it kind of reminds me of Blink 182, a little vibe of that, but it's also um a song that it it like like thinking back to the old days kind of feeling.

00:27:06.370 --> 00:27:06.450
Yeah.

00:27:06.610 --> 00:27:13.330
Um the lyrically like thinking about things that you did.

00:27:14.050 --> 00:27:22.610
So it's probably a little more heartfelt than 66, because 66 is hard kick your kick you in the face.

00:27:23.010 --> 00:27:29.490
And this one's a little more like vibey, chill, but fun.

00:27:30.130 --> 00:27:31.010
Hell yeah.

00:27:31.170 --> 00:27:33.970
Um and then I got other ones that are more 66.

00:27:34.290 --> 00:27:45.970
So I'm trying to keep it where it's not just like six all everything's 66 across the board, um where I have it breaks it up a little bit.

00:27:46.130 --> 00:27:58.290
And that's the problem with not the problem, but I know like people have an easier I easier way to keep their music together like as a genre.

00:27:58.770 --> 00:27:59.090
Okay.

00:27:59.730 --> 00:28:01.650
I've never been good at that.

00:28:02.130 --> 00:28:06.050
Um I like to pull in all different elements.

00:28:06.290 --> 00:28:14.370
So when because you were saying like I don't really see your music as pop punk, I see it more as like hard rock or rock, right?

00:28:15.090 --> 00:28:24.930
Um, so it's because I pull in so many different elements of music when I write, it's hard to just stick with one thing for me.

00:28:25.250 --> 00:28:26.370
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

00:28:26.450 --> 00:28:37.810
I mean, the and it gives the audience like you you always want to build your central sound, but it gives the audience uh a way to show your development as an artist.

00:28:37.970 --> 00:28:38.610
You know what I mean?

00:28:38.690 --> 00:28:57.170
You can yeah, each thing should be its own standalone piece, each EP, each single, it should all be its own standalone piece, and you should be able to um diversify everything without feeling oh, without feeling that you have to uh be stuck, you know?

00:28:57.730 --> 00:28:58.370
Yeah.

00:28:58.770 --> 00:29:03.490
Yeah, and that's really the like some people have actually said, why don't you just stick with one thing?

00:29:03.570 --> 00:29:06.210
And I'm like, I can't it's hard for me, you know?

00:29:06.530 --> 00:29:14.210
Um but that's why I'm you have if everybody's doing the same thing, then it's boring.

00:29:14.290 --> 00:29:19.490
So at least you know, I got some I give some people something to talk about.

00:29:20.130 --> 00:29:20.530
Yeah.

00:29:21.890 --> 00:29:25.730
You know, it's better than just being shelved, I guess.

00:29:25.890 --> 00:29:35.730
You know, I hope something finally takes off for my band, but um I'm just happy writing music, even if if nothing ever really becomes of it.

00:29:35.970 --> 00:29:38.930
It's it's just like a really it's a piece of me.

00:29:39.170 --> 00:29:50.370
Um so you know, whether it goes big or stays where it's at, hopefully it doesn't just stay, but um, I'm happy doing it, you know.

00:29:50.850 --> 00:29:51.490
Right.

00:29:51.810 --> 00:29:53.970
Yeah, and that that's the art of it.

00:29:54.130 --> 00:29:59.490
That's you know, keeping keeping your heart in the art is a huge part of it.

00:30:00.530 --> 00:30:01.970
Yeah, it's a huge part of it.

00:30:02.050 --> 00:30:02.770
It truly is.

00:30:03.010 --> 00:30:09.730
When when your heart's not in it and it's just commercialized, it it loses the authenticity.

00:30:12.450 --> 00:30:34.850
Yeah, and I I I can see how that cookie cutter uh it I can see how bands end up having to go cookie cut to keep producing music with no feeling or thought or it it really just becomes you become the machine, you know?

00:30:35.330 --> 00:30:41.490
And it's okay it's okay to do that every now and then, like okay, you gotta put some stuff about and just get it up there.

00:30:41.650 --> 00:30:46.210
But um, I think a lot of people end up losing their art that way.

00:30:46.450 --> 00:30:46.770
Yeah.

00:30:47.010 --> 00:30:47.730
Unfortunately.

00:30:48.610 --> 00:30:53.170
Yeah, and then certain bands kind of develop this sound and when they try and expand.

00:30:53.490 --> 00:30:56.450
Experiment and go outside of it, the fans backlash.

00:30:56.530 --> 00:31:01.490
And it's like, well, maybe I don't want to just be the first album.

00:31:01.650 --> 00:31:03.890
I want to do other stuff too, you know?

00:31:04.210 --> 00:31:06.530
So yeah, I'm all for it.

00:31:06.850 --> 00:31:09.410
I I feel I feel that for bands too.

00:31:09.490 --> 00:31:15.010
Uh, you know, because they'll come out with one album that just blows everybody's mind, like they love it, right?

00:31:15.090 --> 00:31:18.210
And then they come out with another album and it's slightly different.

00:31:18.450 --> 00:31:21.090
And then everybody's like, boo, what did you guys do?

00:31:21.250 --> 00:31:22.610
Sell outs, you suck.

00:31:22.690 --> 00:31:24.850
I don't even like I'm never listening to your albums.

00:31:25.010 --> 00:31:27.250
Actually, I'm never gonna listen to your music again.

00:31:27.490 --> 00:31:29.490
You know, so I really feel bad for artists.

00:31:29.570 --> 00:31:32.050
They're like, wait, but like, I thought you liked me.

00:31:32.210 --> 00:31:33.650
I thought you liked me as a part.

00:31:34.930 --> 00:31:36.130
But you don't.

00:31:36.450 --> 00:31:39.890
Um, yeah, that that I've seen that happen so many times.

00:31:40.050 --> 00:31:47.730
I had even me as like a tiny little microscopic artist in this whole big world of music.

00:31:47.970 --> 00:31:56.050
I've had some people like when I had uh some songs come out, solo stuff, and then I had this EP.

00:31:56.690 --> 00:32:00.450
Uh I had this girl, she's like, What are you doing?

00:32:01.410 --> 00:32:04.930
What what is what what is this music you're putting out now?

00:32:05.170 --> 00:32:08.610
And she's like, it's okay, I guess keep going.

00:32:09.010 --> 00:32:13.890
And I'm like, What is is it that offensive?

00:32:14.130 --> 00:32:16.450
Like, just give it a chance, you know?

00:32:16.610 --> 00:32:19.890
But it didn't sound anything like what I had put out before.

00:32:20.210 --> 00:32:22.530
But those kinds of things that they stick with you.

00:32:23.330 --> 00:32:24.450
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:32:24.690 --> 00:32:26.930
Um okay.

00:32:27.650 --> 00:32:32.290
Every negative comment, it's uh I got one, I got one for you.

00:32:32.370 --> 00:32:47.490
So I I collect vinyl records, and as a teenager, I put up a video of me explaining the difference between Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon repressed in 2014 versus the original, and somebody put a comment on the video.

00:32:47.650 --> 00:32:54.530
I'm I'm 15, 16, and somebody put on there, kill yourself, why are you touching the vinyl?

00:32:55.170 --> 00:33:01.250
And it stuck with me for I'm 30 31, so I've never forgot.

00:33:03.250 --> 00:33:07.970
Yeah, that's so messed up, it's so messed up, it's crazy.

00:33:09.410 --> 00:33:11.410
But yeah, that's like it sticks with you.

00:33:11.570 --> 00:33:12.610
You're like, why?

00:33:12.770 --> 00:33:22.130
Like, I don't know why you know logically that it's stupid, but your emotional body can't let it go.

00:33:24.690 --> 00:33:25.970
That's it's people are crazy.

00:33:27.090 --> 00:33:27.970
That's that's weird.

00:33:28.130 --> 00:33:29.010
Man, that's yeah.

00:33:29.810 --> 00:33:31.890
That was the last video I made doing that.

00:33:31.970 --> 00:33:32.930
I can tell you that.

00:33:33.250 --> 00:33:35.010
I was like, okay, well, I don't need this.

00:33:35.570 --> 00:33:36.210
Yeah.

00:33:37.170 --> 00:33:42.690
Um, so I do have I have two final questions for you, and then we're gonna jump into this game.

00:33:42.930 --> 00:33:44.930
I ask all of my guests these questions.

00:33:45.090 --> 00:33:51.090
The first one is if you could collaborate with any artist that would fit your sound.

00:33:51.330 --> 00:33:56.210
So not like a dream collaboration, not like you know, like Lady Gaga.

00:33:56.610 --> 00:33:57.090
You know what I mean?

00:33:57.250 --> 00:34:01.090
Somebody that would fit your sound that is also really cool to work with.

00:34:01.330 --> 00:34:02.370
Who would it be?

00:34:05.090 --> 00:34:10.929
Uh I've always paramour.

00:34:11.170 --> 00:34:12.210
I love I love Paramour.

00:34:12.449 --> 00:34:12.610
Yeah.

00:34:13.090 --> 00:34:17.490
But they're that's a that's kind of like a dream because they're so big.

00:34:18.130 --> 00:34:19.889
Yeah, but they think you're sound though.

00:34:20.050 --> 00:34:29.090
Like that's that's the key element is like making sure that whatever you're putting out would be like a really cool project.

00:34:31.889 --> 00:34:40.449
Yeah, I mean, there's quite a few, I could think I mean hailstorm.

00:34:41.009 --> 00:34:46.369
Are you talking about like to write write a oh you guys put together a song?

00:34:46.529 --> 00:34:49.169
Like you you write a song and yeah.

00:34:49.569 --> 00:34:52.689
I think hailstorm would fit perfectly with you.

00:34:53.009 --> 00:34:54.369
Oh, hailstorm.

00:34:57.089 --> 00:34:58.449
Yeah, you and Lizzie Hale.

00:34:59.409 --> 00:34:59.730
Huh?

00:35:00.210 --> 00:35:01.730
You and Lizzie Hale, yeah.

00:35:02.529 --> 00:35:06.449
I saw her um last year, I think.

00:35:07.809 --> 00:35:09.009
She's awesome, man.

00:35:11.250 --> 00:35:12.449
Great performance.

00:35:12.690 --> 00:35:13.329
Yeah.

00:35:14.769 --> 00:35:17.489
Um the other go ahead.

00:35:17.889 --> 00:35:22.610
Oh, the the other thing too is her brother is super into like cologne.

00:35:22.849 --> 00:35:23.809
I don't know if you know that.

00:35:23.889 --> 00:35:27.489
He's like a cologne dealer, like I think in France.

00:35:27.809 --> 00:35:28.289
Yeah.

00:35:28.610 --> 00:35:29.329
Oh, okay.

00:35:29.569 --> 00:35:31.009
No, I didn't know that.

00:35:31.809 --> 00:35:33.170
I had no idea.

00:35:33.409 --> 00:35:36.529
So he's like a cologne dealer that's wild.

00:35:36.849 --> 00:35:39.889
Yeah, it's polar opposites.

00:35:40.849 --> 00:35:41.489
Yeah.

00:35:42.210 --> 00:35:43.650
Um RJ, right?

00:35:44.369 --> 00:35:45.009
Yeah, RJ.

00:35:45.250 --> 00:35:46.289
Yeah, yeah.

00:35:46.769 --> 00:35:52.690
Um, the other question that I always ask is uh we are called the Hook and Bridge podcast for a reason.

00:35:52.929 --> 00:35:54.769
Normally, I have a co-host.

00:35:55.090 --> 00:36:00.289
Uh, unfortunately, she has to work tomorrow, so she couldn't come on the show today.

00:36:00.449 --> 00:36:02.049
Uh, it's my little sister.

00:36:02.289 --> 00:36:06.289
I consider myself like the hook of the show, and she's like my bridge.

00:36:06.529 --> 00:36:10.849
So we like to ask everybody what do you enjoy when writing music?

00:36:11.009 --> 00:36:16.929
Um, are you more of uh enjoyment in writing hooks or enjoyment in writing bridges to your songs?

00:36:18.049 --> 00:36:18.690
Hooks.

00:36:19.170 --> 00:36:19.809
Hooks.

00:36:20.289 --> 00:36:20.769
Yeah.

00:36:20.929 --> 00:36:21.170
Yeah.

00:36:22.289 --> 00:36:22.690
Hooks.

00:36:23.009 --> 00:36:23.969
All about hooks.

00:36:24.929 --> 00:36:28.210
And then bridge, but it's not too far behind it.

00:36:28.529 --> 00:36:29.090
Right.

00:36:29.329 --> 00:36:35.569
I always tell everybody the the bridge can elevate a song from good to great, you know?

00:36:35.809 --> 00:36:39.489
Uh it's it's the the hook is what keeps people there, though.

00:36:39.650 --> 00:36:42.289
You gotta have that that catchy riff.

00:36:42.849 --> 00:36:43.489
Yes.

00:36:43.969 --> 00:36:45.329
I'm all about that.

00:36:45.889 --> 00:36:46.610
How about you?

00:36:46.690 --> 00:36:49.329
What are you uh hook?

00:36:49.569 --> 00:36:50.690
Hook for sure.

00:36:50.929 --> 00:36:51.329
Yeah.

00:36:51.809 --> 00:36:52.690
And your sister?

00:36:53.730 --> 00:36:55.250
Bridge, for sure.

00:36:55.650 --> 00:36:56.369
Bridge, all right.

00:36:56.529 --> 00:36:59.009
Yeah, but I like there that's perfect.

00:36:59.650 --> 00:36:59.969
She's cool.

00:37:02.610 --> 00:37:04.449
Yeah, she's super cool about it.

00:37:04.610 --> 00:37:13.809
She um she is much quieter than I am, and when she does chime in with stuff, it's always like, oh, I never would have thought of it that way, you know.

00:37:13.969 --> 00:37:15.889
And that's what you want from the bridge.

00:37:16.289 --> 00:37:21.250
Um, but I I'm the I'm the guy that's like sitting and thinking of like, okay, what are we gonna call this game?

00:37:21.329 --> 00:37:26.130
All right, what are we gonna call, you know, this t-shirt idea or you know, those types of things.

00:37:26.690 --> 00:37:34.929
I'm always thinking of speaking of games, are you familiar with a game called Cards Against Humanity?

00:37:35.250 --> 00:37:35.889
Yeah.

00:37:36.449 --> 00:37:39.889
So this is sort of like that, but it's music themed.

00:37:40.130 --> 00:37:45.889
So I'm gonna ask you some questions and you're gonna answer with the title of a song.

00:37:46.369 --> 00:37:49.250
Oh, I'm not good with titles of songs.

00:37:49.969 --> 00:37:52.690
Oh, well, then you're probably gonna suck at this game, I'm gonna be honest.

00:37:55.969 --> 00:37:59.090
People are gonna just stop listening after three seconds.

00:37:59.329 --> 00:38:00.769
Uh, I doubt that.

00:38:02.130 --> 00:38:12.289
We had we had a trivia one night with um with an artist, and um they got every single question wrong.

00:38:12.449 --> 00:38:14.690
There's 13 questions straight.

00:38:15.409 --> 00:38:16.849
There's 15 questions.

00:38:17.009 --> 00:38:17.569
Oh gosh.

00:38:17.809 --> 00:38:18.369
All right.

00:38:18.769 --> 00:38:19.409
All right.

00:38:20.210 --> 00:38:27.009
First one, what is the most American blue collar song that you can think of?

00:38:28.690 --> 00:38:30.289
Icky Breaky Heart.

00:38:30.529 --> 00:38:31.969
That's that's a great answer.

00:38:32.049 --> 00:38:33.170
I that's a good one.

00:38:33.489 --> 00:38:34.369
Okay, okay, okay.

00:38:34.690 --> 00:38:39.009
I immediately thought of um Oh, there you go.

00:38:39.170 --> 00:38:43.650
Uh, I immediately thought of uh uh who's that guy?

00:38:43.730 --> 00:38:44.849
Bruce Springsteen.

00:38:45.009 --> 00:38:46.610
Um, you know what?

00:38:46.929 --> 00:38:48.690
Born in the USA, yeah.

00:38:49.170 --> 00:38:53.329
Or that song Halfway There.

00:38:54.049 --> 00:38:54.769
Oh, yeah.

00:38:57.090 --> 00:38:58.130
Living on a prayer.

00:38:58.449 --> 00:38:59.569
Yep, yep, yep.

00:39:00.130 --> 00:39:01.730
Okay, no, I do know titles.

00:39:01.809 --> 00:39:02.289
I lied.

00:39:02.449 --> 00:39:03.329
There you go.

00:39:03.569 --> 00:39:13.409
Um you're on a 14-hour road trip, no radio, the CD player is stuck on repeat to the worst song ever.

00:39:13.809 --> 00:39:18.049
What is the worst song to have stuck on a road trip?

00:39:19.489 --> 00:39:20.769
Baby Sharp.

00:39:21.489 --> 00:39:22.529
Oh, yeah.

00:39:22.769 --> 00:39:26.210
Oh, as a new father, I've heard that song a lot.

00:39:28.529 --> 00:39:30.130
Yeah, can you imagine?

00:39:30.369 --> 00:39:32.849
Can you it's it's hell.

00:39:33.090 --> 00:39:36.929
So smashing it, punch it, kick it in.

00:39:37.090 --> 00:39:38.929
There's no way I can deal with that.

00:39:39.250 --> 00:39:41.969
Be like, it's done, destroy it, burn it.

00:39:43.170 --> 00:39:47.009
I think I could how how long do you think you could last listening to Baby Shark?

00:39:47.090 --> 00:39:48.929
I think I could do two hours.

00:39:49.569 --> 00:39:58.210
You ooh, man, you're you have way more resilience than I'm gonna patience, resilience.

00:39:58.289 --> 00:40:01.889
I I got like you got like 30, you got 30 seconds.

00:40:03.489 --> 00:40:05.809
I think the whole song is like three minutes.

00:40:06.049 --> 00:40:08.769
I know 30 seconds, that's it.

00:40:11.650 --> 00:40:19.889
Um best song to sing at the top of your lungs in order to embarrass your kids as you drop them off at school.

00:40:28.130 --> 00:40:34.849
My my brain is going because I've seen like a lot of reels where people are dropping their kids off and they like blast music.

00:40:35.009 --> 00:40:36.369
They're like, love you.

00:40:38.690 --> 00:40:44.610
I don't know, like something super lame, super, super like millennial, like Jenna.

00:40:44.849 --> 00:40:48.049
Uh Sandstorm by by Darude.

00:40:49.170 --> 00:40:51.730
Oh yeah.

00:40:52.049 --> 00:40:54.690
That's that's that could do it.

00:40:55.170 --> 00:41:02.769
When when I was uh I had I had just graduated, and my sister is seven years younger than me, so she was in middle school.

00:41:03.009 --> 00:41:10.289
Um I would I would take her home from band practice and I would blast drowning pool.

00:41:10.449 --> 00:41:11.329
That was my thing.

00:41:11.409 --> 00:41:14.369
I would just roll down the windows and just let bodies hit.

00:41:15.809 --> 00:41:20.610
I would I would think that was awesome if my brother honestly, I thought it was embarrassing.

00:41:20.690 --> 00:41:21.730
She was like, I love this.

00:41:21.889 --> 00:41:23.650
Everybody thinks you're the coolest.

00:41:24.210 --> 00:41:25.489
That's great.

00:41:25.889 --> 00:41:28.929
Um, you know what I think would be a really bad one?

00:41:29.569 --> 00:41:33.650
Uh, did you ever hear the song that it's like the Halloween song?

00:41:33.969 --> 00:41:39.569
Um, or it's Randy Randy's Randy, big Big D Randy.

00:41:39.809 --> 00:41:41.489
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:41:42.049 --> 00:41:43.170
From South Park?

00:41:43.650 --> 00:41:44.529
Last that.

00:41:46.849 --> 00:41:47.569
Oh, man.

00:41:47.809 --> 00:41:55.170
But you probably get in trouble because it is very you might not be allowed within 150 kg.

00:41:55.569 --> 00:42:10.769
Yeah, I think yeah, I think that like the attendants at the school would be like, um, you're not allowed to drop your child off at school anymore because you're very illicit and we can't have that kind of you know, at school.

00:42:11.009 --> 00:42:17.329
So to uh dedicate a song to someone uh close to you.

00:42:17.969 --> 00:42:22.849
So what who who would you dedicate a song to and what would that song be?

00:42:25.650 --> 00:42:38.289
Um all right, so let's dedicate a song to my mom, because she's like the nicest person in the world, and I've been so mean to her my whole life.

00:42:38.769 --> 00:42:48.130
Um it would be that song called I get by with a little help from my friends.

00:42:48.369 --> 00:42:49.569
Oh, yeah, Joe Conker.

00:42:50.449 --> 00:42:51.090
What is it?

00:42:51.409 --> 00:42:52.289
Joe Conker.

00:42:52.449 --> 00:42:55.809
Uh help with a little from uh a little help from my friends, Joe Conker.

00:42:56.210 --> 00:43:08.929
Yeah, that would be a good one because my mom is like my best friend, but you know, how I don't know how your sister was, but like girls and their moms butt heads really bad.

00:43:09.090 --> 00:43:18.049
Yeah, and um my mom is very sensitive and I'm very hard, like I'm I'm I'm a little more like raw and harsh in the way I talk.

00:43:18.130 --> 00:43:28.210
So I've but I've always wondered, like I always tell them like you're my best friend though, like you've been there for me through so much, and um, so yeah, a little help for my friends for my mom.

00:43:28.449 --> 00:43:29.250
I love that.

00:43:29.489 --> 00:43:31.889
Shout out moms everywhere.

00:43:34.049 --> 00:43:34.690
All right.

00:43:35.250 --> 00:43:40.529
What is the grocery cart with the squeaky wheel theme song?

00:43:41.170 --> 00:43:42.289
It's an interesting one.

00:43:42.369 --> 00:43:50.369
So you've you're you're in a grocery store, you've got a grocery cart that's just not not moving the way you want it to.

00:43:51.170 --> 00:43:52.610
What song goes through your head?

00:43:52.690 --> 00:43:53.170
Yeah.

00:43:57.170 --> 00:43:59.809
I immediately thought move bitch get out the way.

00:44:00.690 --> 00:44:02.289
Move bitch, get out the way.

00:44:03.569 --> 00:44:05.409
Is there a song called Take Me Out?

00:44:05.650 --> 00:44:07.489
Yeah, yeah, Franz Ferdinand.

00:44:07.809 --> 00:44:08.449
Yeah.

00:44:10.130 --> 00:44:11.170
How does that go?

00:44:11.329 --> 00:44:12.769
Let's see if it's the right one.

00:44:13.569 --> 00:44:21.090
Uh do do do do do do do do do I say you don't know.

00:44:21.329 --> 00:44:23.250
You say won't you go?

00:44:23.489 --> 00:44:25.809
I say take me out.

00:44:26.610 --> 00:44:27.730
Oh yeah.

00:44:28.049 --> 00:44:29.009
Okay, that one.

00:44:29.250 --> 00:44:29.650
Yeah.

00:44:30.130 --> 00:44:31.170
That's a good song.

00:44:32.769 --> 00:44:35.569
And it's not they'd probably play that in a grocery store too.

00:44:35.809 --> 00:44:37.009
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:44:37.409 --> 00:44:43.090
It's exclusively Franz Ferdinand, Matchbox 20, uh, The Verve.

00:44:43.650 --> 00:44:44.289
Yeah.

00:44:45.329 --> 00:44:54.210
Um, if you had one disco song to listen to for the rest of your life, what disco song would you want to listen to?

00:44:54.769 --> 00:44:55.329
Ooh.

00:44:57.329 --> 00:45:21.250
Man, there's been so many songs that I've had on repeat, like over and over and over, and I'm like, I could live with this, but I I I really love solo music, so anything that it like let's just let's go with like uh let's go with like Edit James or something, or like Oh, there you go.

00:45:21.329 --> 00:45:21.730
Yeah.

00:45:22.049 --> 00:45:22.369
Yeah.

00:45:22.610 --> 00:45:27.170
You know, something classic that you're just like it's gonna be alright.

00:45:27.250 --> 00:45:33.889
Like, or we could go with like um I'm feeling good.

00:45:34.610 --> 00:45:38.130
That's all that one.

00:45:38.369 --> 00:45:39.250
That would be a good one.

00:45:42.769 --> 00:45:45.250
Is it or just some classic music?

00:45:45.730 --> 00:45:46.849
Yeah, yeah.

00:45:47.650 --> 00:45:51.250
Uh at last, is that Ada James?

00:45:53.409 --> 00:45:53.569
Yeah.

00:45:53.809 --> 00:45:54.210
At last.

00:45:54.690 --> 00:45:55.329
Yeah, yeah.

00:45:55.650 --> 00:45:57.329
Oh, I love that song.

00:45:57.969 --> 00:46:00.210
Oh man, I love that song too.

00:46:00.849 --> 00:46:03.250
All right, this is the last one.

00:46:04.049 --> 00:46:05.889
And it's and it's gonna be a doozy.

00:46:06.529 --> 00:46:10.769
Um what is your funeral song?

00:46:12.130 --> 00:46:15.969
Oh, I'm not gonna die, so you and me both.

00:46:16.289 --> 00:46:18.369
I'm gonna stick around forever.

00:46:18.690 --> 00:46:33.170
Uh my funeral song is oh, it's fuck you.

00:46:37.969 --> 00:46:41.329
Um that that song.

00:46:44.849 --> 00:46:46.690
And I'm like, fuck you.

00:46:48.130 --> 00:46:50.130
Fuck you, and fuck you too.

00:46:50.210 --> 00:46:50.610
I don't know.

00:46:50.769 --> 00:46:51.489
What is that song?

00:46:51.969 --> 00:46:59.329
I think it's uh I think it's I got so many songs in my head, like I think it's CeeLo Green, CeeLo Green, yeah.

00:46:59.809 --> 00:47:00.449
That one.

00:47:01.329 --> 00:47:02.929
That's a great answer.

00:47:03.809 --> 00:47:04.769
Not bad.

00:47:05.090 --> 00:47:05.650
Yeah.

00:47:05.969 --> 00:47:08.929
Well, that is the end of our show, Beth.

00:47:09.090 --> 00:47:10.929
Thank you so much for hanging out with us today.

00:47:11.250 --> 00:47:13.090
Yeah, thank you so much for having me today.

00:47:13.170 --> 00:47:14.130
I had a great time.

00:47:14.369 --> 00:47:15.250
Yeah, absolutely.

00:47:15.409 --> 00:47:17.009
You're welcome back anytime.

00:47:17.170 --> 00:47:21.409
Um, everybody check out New Violet, they're an absolutely incredible band.

00:47:21.569 --> 00:47:27.809
Um, 66 is out right now, and the new EP is the heat is getting hotter.

00:47:28.049 --> 00:47:29.889
I highly recommend Runaway.

00:47:29.969 --> 00:47:31.009
I love that song.

00:47:31.170 --> 00:47:33.250
Um, 66 is also great.

00:47:33.489 --> 00:47:36.289
So please, everybody, check out a new violet.

00:47:36.449 --> 00:47:38.369
All right, thanks so much for hanging out.

00:47:38.610 --> 00:47:39.250
Thank you.

00:47:39.489 --> 00:47:40.929
All right, I'll see ya.

00:47:41.170 --> 00:47:42.610
All right, thank you.

00:47:46.690 --> 00:47:49.170
All right, everybody, that is the show.

00:47:49.329 --> 00:47:50.369
Thank you so much.

00:47:50.610 --> 00:47:53.250
It is uh time for me to head out.

00:47:53.329 --> 00:48:02.610
Please check out the Instagram and um YouTube page, and it has been real peace.

00:48:04.690 --> 00:48:08.369
Thanks for listening to the Lokin Bridge Podcast.