Oct. 27, 2025

From Womb Kicks To 90s Grit: LaureNicole’s Rock Story

From Womb Kicks To 90s Grit: LaureNicole’s Rock Story

Send in your music story! A name that sounds like a solo act but moves like a band: Lauren Nicole joins us to unpack how a family-first rock project found its voice in 90s alt grit, pop clarity, and the kind of bridges that turn songs into memories. From kicking in the womb to Springsteen’s beat to taking the stage at eleven, Lauren’s path blends fearless beginnings with a modern, DIY engine—co-producing with her drummer husband, Jim, and partnering with veteran producer Dick Hodgin to drop j...

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Season 2

Send in your music story!

A name that sounds like a solo act but moves like a band: Lauren Nicole joins us to unpack how a family-first rock project found its voice in 90s alt grit, pop clarity, and the kind of bridges that turn songs into memories. From kicking in the womb to Springsteen’s beat to taking the stage at eleven, Lauren’s path blends fearless beginnings with a modern, DIY engine—co-producing with her drummer husband, Jim, and partnering with veteran producer Dick Hodgin to drop just the right “specials” where a track needs to snap.

We dive into the new EP, Preserve Love Here, and why each of its three songs stands alone while threading a bigger story: unapologetic self-love, intimate partnership, and protecting the spaces that keep you grounded. State of Preservation hits like a jolt of energy; Here With You glows with 90s DNA and a lyrical first line that opens the door to the whole emotional house. Lauren breaks down her process—mood first, chords second, words that arrive fast when the moment is real—and explains why she champions the bridge as the place where a song finally says what it’s been trying to say all along.

Expect talk of influences that actually shaped the craft: Christina Aguilera’s vocal athleticism, Jenna McDougall’s lyric reach in Tonight Alive, and a dream of a dark-acoustic collab with Meg Myers. We trade summer anthems, monster-truck bangers, and march-ready rally songs, then circle back to the heart of it all: a band that produces itself, protects its vision, and loves rock enough to keep it honest. If you crave big choruses, sharp metaphors, and a thoughtful studio process, queue this one up and tell us—are you Team Hook or Team Bridge?

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01:04 - Hosts Welcome And Guest Reveal

02:22 - Naming The Band And Its Identity

03:41 - Musical Origins: Womb Kicks And Springsteen

06:05 - Daughtry, 90s Vibes, And Stage Muscles

07:04 - Song Spotlight: “What’s Next?”

10:30 - DIY Production And The “Specials”

13:40 - Marriage, Band Chemistry, And Process

15:42 - New EP: Standout Tracks And Themes

19:39 - Lyric Craft: Metaphor, Mood, And Flow

23:00 - From Darkness To Light In Songwriting

27:16 - Early Releases, False Starts, True Debut

29:10 - Family Support And First Stages

31:26 - Influences: Aguilera To Tonight Alive

33:56 - Dream Collab And The Case For Bridges

38:01 - Mixtape Game: Summer To Monster Trucks

43:10 - March Anthems And Island Songs

46:18 - Parents, Lyrics, And Teenage Cringe

50:18 - Sibling Bits, Inside Jokes, And Wrap

57:34 - House Moves, Merch, And Sign-Off

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I'm the worst person to have a podcast.

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I do fail.

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What's up, everybody?

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Welcome back to the show.

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I am your host, Harley, joined as always by my co-host and little sister Taylor.

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Hello, very, very super special guest today.

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I'm actually super excited for this interview.

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Up and coming artist.

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The band is incredible.

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I really love the like 90s like alternative sound that you guys have mixed with like some pop elements as well.

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But your voice is incredible.

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I'm gonna be honest with you.

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I I should have asked this before we started, and I feel like such a jerk for not, but you should.

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I don't know how to pronounce the name of the band.

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I want to give it a shot though.

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Oh, give it a shot.

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I just want to see what you come up with.

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So so it's it's one word, but it's two names.

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That's right.

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So I'm gonna give it a go.

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I'm gonna say Laura Nicole.

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Laura Nicole.

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Laura Nicole, okay.

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So basically, we kind of are going for like this Van Halen daughter thing.

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So Lauren Nicole is my first and middle name.

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And uh being that all of the efforts that go into our project, it's really uh a band family, and everybody's role is so important.

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So I wanted it to not be just like an artist name of Lauren Space Nicole.

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I wanted it to be a cohesive unit, as uh, you know, that kind of shows what the identity of of our band is.

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So yeah, you didn't.

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Yeah, I love that.

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I definitely thought you were gonna ask how to pronounce her name.

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Like I thought that's where that was going, and I'm like, yeah, take a shot.

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It wouldn't be the first time, so it's no no offense.

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It's it's no offense to me.

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Um, so we're gonna dive into the new EP uh momentarily, but I do want to talk about uh a little bit of like your music history.

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So I know that you've kind of been involved in music for quite some time, some time now, but um I also know that uh when you were still in the womb, you seem to also love music.

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Uh you've told it before on other shows, but I I think it's a fun one.

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So go go ahead and tell us a little bit about that.

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Oh yeah, I feel like this is like the story that like never gets old.

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So if people are new to me, like watching this, then yes, this is this is my my musical identity story, honestly.

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But um my mother was eight months pregnant, and she was sitting in front of like they had like a big boom box stereo system.

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I have no idea.

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This was the 90s, who knows what they had.

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But basically, she was listening to Bruce Springsteen's dancing in the dark.

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Ironically, I start dancing in the dark, and I start kicking in her stomach to the exact beat of the song.

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Um, so she was like, there is no she first she didn't believe it.

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She was like, turn it off and see if this see if she keeps going.

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Turn some music off, I stop kicking.

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Turn some music back on, I start kicking again right to the beat.

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She's like, There is no way that this is not a musical child.

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So yes, it was definitely in the blood for sure, renewable.

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So I love that story.

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I'm I'm a new father, so my son is one year old.

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Um thank you, thank you.

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But I was insistent as a musician on involving music throughout my wife's pregnancy, and as soon as he was born, basically.

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Um, so one of my one of my favorite hobbies is to put a vinyl on and listen to an album front to back.

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So when he was born, that's what we would do.

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I would hold him and kind of rock and bounce around and throw on different music, and he loves stained.

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So I was really yeah, he loves stained and he loves Snoop Dogg.

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Oh, yeah, those are his two.

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Yeah, I love that.

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That's a good appreciation of music, is multi-genre faceted.

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So that's good.

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Big fan.

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The only thing I'm upset with is the Bruce Springsteen.

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There's so much music out there.

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Bruce Springsteen is what you dance to.

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I have no idea.

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I'm like, I'm like, this story, like it could have been any song, but the fact that it was like dancing in the dark, and I'm literally in the dark, it was just like the irony of that.

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I'm like, you're right.

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She's just like, no, I swear.

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I'm like, okay, that's pretty cool.

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Um, speaking of Daughtry, I recently went and saw Daughtry last week.

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Nice.

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Incredible.

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I was um so I was expecting the the mom-loving Daughtree of every mom loves Daughtree.

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Oh, yeah.

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I was expecting that, and I got a completely different version of Daughtry that I didn't know existed.

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He has gone full metal, and I am here for it.

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I love it, it's incredible.

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It's the new album is incredible.

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Yeah, like unleashed his like alter ego or something.

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Right.

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A totally different Chris than we've known before.

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So he also has like every muscle known to man in that arm.

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It's wild.

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Like how like how much work goes into that?

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Like, honestly, that's a lot.

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I I don't have patience enough for that.

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Like, I'm like, nope, I'm good.

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I'm A-OK.

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I'm A-OK.

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So I listened to your earlier stuff as well.

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Um, and there's one song that I want to highlight that I absolutely adore.

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Okay.

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It's called What's Next?

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Yeah.

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Um, I think that is such a fun song.

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Um tell me a little bit about like the writing inspiration because I know that you're like the primary songwriter.

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Um, but that that song is so vastly different than most of your catalog.

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Um is the story is the story deep on it?

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It feels like just kind of like uh you were writing towards the masses.

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So it's I really wasn't, it was kind of a weird writing.

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Um honestly, I didn't think that song was gonna make the album.

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So it was one of those songs, and not because that it is like I would consider one of like our harder, edgier tracks.

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Um, but it was a song it was really difficult to get an intro for, number one.

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I had no idea how I wanted to get into the song.

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Um, and the first I think part of the song that was written was the chorus.

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So I kind of started with the hook and then kind of had to like tiptoe around the verses.

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And then the bridge was something that came, I think almost a year later from when I had the idea of the yeah, like it was something that was like very much workshopped for a while.

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Um and my husband, who is the drummer in the band, Jim.

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Oh, nice, he yeah, he was very instrumental, I shall say.

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Um nice pun, right?

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Um, in keeping that song in the catalog, he was like, We we have to finish it, we have to make that there's just something special about the hook of that chorus, and like we can't just let it fall by the wayside.

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So I kind of had it like in the back like burner running because of that.

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And um and yeah, it just kind of morphed into this really big, epic, angsty track.

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And um, I had not released music for like five years.

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So when I wanted to release a new song, I kind of wanted to go like balls to the wall.

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And so that song was definitely a good, like, hey, I'm back.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, so um, but yeah, it and I feel like it it did it did its job with this in the scope of the album, telling the overarching story we were trying to tell with with kind of like where it falls emotionally, um, in the bigger, in the bigger picture of it.

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But um, yeah, it was definitely uh single, single-worthy for sure.

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Yeah.

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Uh so are you involved uh heavily on the production side as well?

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Yeah.

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So everything that you've heard with the new EP and the album from within, um, that was basically all produced by me and Jim, uh, the drummer.

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Um, so when we go into studio, we basically like have already cut a demo with the band before we go in.

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And collectively as a group, we kind of sift through parts.

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So when we go into studio, it's like we already have done this essentially.

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Right, right.

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Um, so it makes that that like process a lot more smooth.

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But I guess in a way, we're all kind of producing it because we're all putting the layering and knowing the layering that's gonna kind of fit within the song.

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Um, but yeah, as far as like what needs to come up in like the mix and things like that, we do have a lot of say.

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Um, we are fortunate enough to work with a producer here locally.

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His name is Dick Hodgin um at Osseola Studios.

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And he is a great producer, sound engineer.

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Uh, he's worked with major artists like Hootie and the Blowfish from like back in the day, like um so many others that I can't even like name them all, honestly.

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But he is also the type that lets you drive.

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Um a really great thing to find if you can, um, because it allows you to kind of have your own creative input.

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But then also he has ideas that he offers that once he kind of gets a grasp for your vision, he's kind of like, hey, you know what?

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I hear a little bit of like this, maybe and this little special here that might just make it pop a little bit more.

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Um so like circling around, like what's next?

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That little like cut action in the bridge.

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That's that's what I was gonna ask.

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Yeah.

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That was uh that was a Dick Hodgin idea, a producer idea that was just definitely needed.

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And and he calls them specials, which I love because it is, you know, you don't want to you put that on every single thing in a song, then it loses its magic and power.

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So yeah, um, but yeah, so it's fun working with him because he has some really good ideas too.

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That makes so much sense, too, knowing that he's worked with like Hootie and and is more of a 90s guy because that's such a 90s move.

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Like I assume he he did it with like a like a toggle switch on the guitar.

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No, um, I think that was like manually cutting, like really yeah, like chopping it out.

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Yeah, that's impressive.

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Yeah, that's time consuming.

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Yeah, and he's quick about it too.

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Like, what was so weird is it was he actually did that when I was laying down my vocal, which we had like messed with like the instrumentation.

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So he's like, Hey, I know you just like did the bridge, but like hold up, I got like an idea, and so he's like over there, like surgically working, and he does it in like 20 seconds.

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He's like, Okay, all right, now sing it.

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And I'm like, Whoa, what is going on in my headphones right now?

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Yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

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Yeah, as soon as I heard that, I was like, I love this song.

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I was like, I'm I'm such a 90s kid, so immediately I was like, Pearl GM audio slave.

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This is like right where I want to be.

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Um so working with your husband that closely as somebody who produces a show with his wife.

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Tell me how that is working out for you.

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Honestly, um, like he's my soulmate.

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Like this, it doesn't feel like work.

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It really doesn't.

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Like, we do this because I've been doing music since now, you know, like literally before I was out the womb.

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Um, and like he was the same with drums.

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Like there are videos, like baby videos that his parents like bought him these like little tiny Mickey Mouse kits, you know, and he's just like standing, not even like on a throne, just like standing, like hitting the symbol, you know, like hitting the snare at this.

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And um, so yeah, it's it's definitely like Kiss Mitt that we work together and like we love what we do when we pour our heart and soul into like everything with the project.

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So um, for me it's a treat because it's just like not everybody gets to have like a hobby with the person for sure, you know.

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Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah, it's exciting.

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How long have you guys been married?

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We just celebrated our five-year wedding anniversary.

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Oh, congratulations!

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I believe is this my fourth Taylor?

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Yeah, yeah.

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This I also feel like you should know that information.

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Well, you know.

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I just not here.

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Um like I feel like maybe we should stop asking me for the important dates in your life, and you should know that.

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You know, you know how it is.

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You're supposed to know like my my birthday, wedding anniversary, mom's birthday, Lindsay's birthday, Lindsay's birthday, Adam's birthday.

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Yeah, Adam's son.

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I do have a very important job.

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I have to text him and remind him to tell people.

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Um, yeah, I think the 22nd, isn't it?

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No, the 23rd.

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I know the day.

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I know the day, October 23rd.

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Yes, it's four years.

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Yes, yeah.

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Awesome.

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So congratulations.

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That's awesome.

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Thank you, thank you.

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Um let's talk about the new EP real quick.

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Yeah, so what do you think is like the standout song?

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Because I think I have a differing opinion.

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Okay, well, the stand, so this is that's hard to say, just because they are all three very purposefully different.

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So being that they are on an EP all together, um, I feel like they are all kind of standalones in their own vein, but collectively, it's so difficult.

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Like I always crutch to state of preservation just because it's very like in your face, again, you're out there, very catchy chorus, you know, it's got a strong hook.

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Um, but on the other hand, from like the commercialization and this like cinematic feel, I really feel like here with you is the strong song on the on the EP.

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So I don't know, and I'm biased.

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I wrote them all, you know, it's it's tough.

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They're all my little babies, yeah.

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So I I was thinking you were gonna go with preservation, and my opinion was gonna be here with you.

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I think that song is incredibly written.

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Wow, thank you.

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It's so reminiscent of um ironic.

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Um yeah, as soon as it's as soon as it started, it was it was like a mixture between ironic, Taylor.

00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:51.519
You I know Taylor hasn't heard the song yet.

00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:53.600
Um why are you calling me out like that?

00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:54.080
That's crazy.

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Well, anyway, well, because well, and it's not her fault, it's not her fault.

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She didn't know that we were even doing this show until today.

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That's on me.

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That's on me.

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No, never.

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Oh my gosh, are you kidding?

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This is a blast.

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I'm excited.

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Yeah, that's that's completely my fault.

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Um, it's been a busy week, so I didn't communicate very well.

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That's okay.

00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:15.360
That's okay.

00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:16.240
We're all here now.

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Yeah, yeah, right.

00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:24.480
But that song, Taylor, I think you would love it because it also reminds me of Breakfast at Tiffany's.

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Oh my god, I never got together.

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But yes, I totally get it.

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As soon as it starts.

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Yeah.

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Oh, that's one of my favorite songs.

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That is the prize.

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Like, thank you, and thank you for like bringing that to the table.

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Like, yeah, I can't wait to go tell that to the band and be like, they're gonna be like, yeah, actually.

00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:58.080
Like, I'm honestly so excited to listen because we've had a lot of guests on, but I've never heard Harley be so genuine about being oh, can we put that out?

00:16:58.399 --> 00:16:59.440
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:06.559
Okay, okay, but like so, like so genuine about loving the music that I'm excited to go listen to things.

00:17:06.880 --> 00:17:09.440
Well, you'll have to tell me, you have to message me on social media.

00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:10.400
Yeah, absolutely.

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What you think about it 100%.

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It it's incredible.

00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:23.599
And and I love um, like obviously, uh the the three songs in question are all love songs from different perspectives, right?

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It's um love yourself is right on the nose.

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Right.

00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:30.799
Um, I feel like uh Here With You is kind of kind of on the nose as well.

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That's love yourself, love your partner.

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Yep, and preservation is loving your surroundings.

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Is that pretty close to yeah?

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Like I consider state of preservation like self-love.

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Like you're creating a happy place and you are totally unapologetic about that.

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So it, you know, it's not like fear of missing out, you know, you're like you're totally happy with the fact that I could be like watching TV for like eight hours on a weekend, and all my friends are outside and they're like texting me, come out, and I'm like, I'm not going to, and I'm like totally okay with that.

00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:05.359
Yeah.

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Like I love that.

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And even though, even though here with you, I would, I guess, consider it a ballad, um, it's really teetering a line.

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It's not really, I mean, it's it's it is, but it's not right.

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It's kind of yeah, it does kind of do this like dance because it's like mid-tempo-ish, but it's kind of like soft in a way that kind of makes it feel like it's a ballad.

00:18:28.160 --> 00:18:29.039
So yeah.

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But the lyrics in that song are awesome.

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I think the opening line is like it starts with one chord, leans into another.

00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:37.440
Yep.

00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.400
Let's walk through some of the wording that you choose.

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Like, you are very talented uh as a writer, and and your word choice is interesting.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:52.160
So, how do you how do you craft like the um what's the word I'm looking for?

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Uh, metaphors and similes that you choose uh specifically in that song.

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So I have been a songwriter now for goodness a long time.

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And there is always something about it that I can never really put my finger on.

00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:22.079
And like Hear With You is one of those songs where I was completely alone, like in my little, we have like a little silent rehearsal studio space, and so I was completely alone in there.

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I had my my headphones on, I had my guitar, I had a microphone, so I could hear everything.

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And the the song started with a chord progression.

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And depending on like my mood, it's always a mood.

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It it is.

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It's like I I start playing the guitar and then like something just kind of like it hits me, and I'm like, it'll just start flowing.

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And not every song, like not every time I write a song is like that.

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There, there's certain times where I'm like, okay, it's been a little while since I've written a song.

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Let's just get on the horse, see what happens.

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A lot of times those sessions are not very successful because I'm just trying to push something that's not necessarily there, but it's kind of stimulating those senses where, like, maybe in a week or two, something that really is genuine comes because I've already kind of been playing with that part of the mind, you know.

00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:26.880
But but for Here With You, I was just really like happy and content, and the chords, the it's just a D major chord into a C.

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It was just really like speaking to me.

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It was really, really vibing with it with my energy that day.

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And um I wrote that whole song in probably 20 minutes.

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It's just like once I once you like start going with it and you're in that mindset and you're feeling these things, I don't even notice that I'm like doing like a metaphor.

00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:50.880
Right.

00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:52.480
Like what you're saying.

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Like I I'm just writing what I feel is speaking to me, like in that in that very present moment.

00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:13.839
Um, and I I do feel now doing this for so long, I do feel like those are when I write my best songs, is when I'm in that special, it's like lightning in a bottle, but I have no idea how to create the lightning.

00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:18.480
It's just it has to strike at the right time that I'm there presently, waiting for it.

00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.160
Um, and Here With You is definitely one of those experiences.

00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:29.920
How do you how do you go um from writing um hold on, I want to get the name right here.

00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:35.680
How do you go from writing something along the lines of uh yeah, that's what I thought.

00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:56.000
Um, along the lines of hated from your last album to three songs that are almost polar opposites, but like I I'm a songwriter as well, and I find myself unable to write from a happy perspective.

00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:59.359
Um, everything I write always comes out dark.

00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:09.519
Um so how do you how do you go from what is quite literally a much darker series of music to a much happier state of mind?

00:22:09.920 --> 00:22:12.720
Um, you and I are very similar in that regard.

00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:14.079
I will tell you that.

00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:21.519
Um, I have pretty much always danced in that darker music vein until this EP.

00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:30.160
Um I do think that kind of like embracing my darkness a little bit on this EP comes out and love yourself.

00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:43.279
Um, because it's kind of got that, it's like it's telling somebody to love themselves, but it's almost like you're telling them in a way where you're very angry that you even have to tell them that.

00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:47.119
You're like, why are we having this conversation right now?

00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:50.400
Like you should know better from everything we've been through.

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You should know that first and foremost, you need to love yourself before you can love me.

00:22:54.799 --> 00:23:09.200
Um, so I very much empathize with you when you say the dark writing is kind of where you that that is where I like to go and veer um in my normal writing.

00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:13.519
Um, and it really wasn't honestly, it was it was Jim.

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I mean, he was truly a proponent because I told him that.

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I was like, you know, I'm how am I how am I gonna like evolve as like an artist out of this mindset when because I'm afraid that I'm gonna write dark stuff, but it won't be genuinely dark anymore because I'm not really in that same headspace.

00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:40.640
So it's almost like writing the dark music out of a comfortability and not from actually what I'm experiencing now.

00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:43.039
And of course, his answer is always the same thing to me.

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It's always time, just give it some time.

00:23:45.680 --> 00:24:01.519
And eventually those emotions end up becoming the forefront, whereas maybe we're in some pretty significantly bad situations that made those darker emotions and darker feelings more of the prominent inner focus.

00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:04.559
And that's why the writing would always kind of lean there.

00:24:04.880 --> 00:24:21.279
So uh I think that just you know, with time and and now with this EP, it just kind of shows that inner shift that I've made as an artist to be able to be like, you know what, I can write in a positive way and and it still be like authentically me.

00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:24.160
Because that's part two with a happy song.

00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:30.960
You don't want it to be like, you know, cheesy, you know, like like yeah, you know, it seems like oh, she wrote a love song, you know.

00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:36.000
It it needs to be like it needs to take you there, just like a dark song takes you there.

00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:38.079
The happy song needs to take you there too.

00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:43.680
And um, I just chalk that up to the emotional place that you're in at the time when you write it.

00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:45.279
Interesting.

00:24:45.599 --> 00:24:50.400
Um, Taylor, do you have any questions you want to get to before I move on?

00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:57.920
So I did, and then I got too engrossed in everything that you guys are saying, and I forgot my question.

00:24:58.160 --> 00:24:59.599
No worries, no worries.

00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:00.880
I'm sure it'll pop up.

00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.680
So if I randomly am like, hey, I need this.

00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:05.759
Time out, time out.

00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:10.720
Um, I did, I did have one.

00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:12.960
Let's dive a little bit into the history.

00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:18.799
So I know we briefly touched on it in the beginning, but you've been doing a music for a long time.

00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:25.759
Um, your first album, I believe, was released in like 2018, 2019.

00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:27.680
Uh from within, yes.

00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:36.079
So before that, I did many little album EPs that I kind of like took offline.

00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:49.680
Um, there's probably some traces out there of certain things, but uh none of those I call them like versions of my artistry weren't really, it was still like flicking ideas.

00:25:49.839 --> 00:25:51.920
It wasn't like me.

00:25:52.400 --> 00:26:04.960
So um, yes, so we we I mean, I consider the album we released last year to be like my first real album.

00:26:05.279 --> 00:26:09.680
Um, but I mean, when I I mean I put my first real album out when I was like 17.

00:26:10.079 --> 00:26:15.920
Like so yeah, like I and that was a so that was actually Lauren Nicole.

00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:18.640
Like that was not a band, that was just me.

00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:25.359
Um, I worked with a producer and I didn't meet a single person who recorded the instrumentation on that album.

00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:33.920
Um, he would just send the rough scratch track to people he had in California or in London or wherever, and they would send him the track back and he'd line it up and then he'd call me in.

00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.160
He'd be like, Hey, I got your song ready.

00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:37.680
Come on over and do your vocal.

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I'm like, oh, okay.

00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:40.240
I'm like, who's on this?

00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:41.680
He's like, don't worry about it.

00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:44.079
I'm like, okay, all right.

00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:55.759
So I had like a ghost band for like my first album, and then everything else after that, I kind of like dallied in like southern rock, and that was definitely not me.

00:26:55.920 --> 00:27:04.319
Like, I I was trying to like write music to help me get onto like bigger like shows or like yeah, festivals, you know what I mean?

00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:08.319
Like things like and it just wasn't accurate to me.

00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:14.960
And so I I you know, I consider from within, I mean, we were it's coming up on a year, October 12th.

00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.119
It will be that we released it.

00:27:17.359 --> 00:27:34.640
Um, yeah, I I consider that to be like my first like real album, and everything else before was just kind of like target practice in a weird way, like not to discredit like what the musicians did and what we did all together, but like in a way for me, artistically, I felt like it was like target practice.

00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:36.319
Yeah, you know, absolutely.

00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:43.920
Um, so it sounds like you had a pretty supportive uh family as far as your music goes.

00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:45.200
Yeah, yes.

00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:49.279
My uh so I'm an only child and um I knew it.

00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:50.400
Yeah, right.

00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:52.559
Only child energy.

00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:54.880
I'm glad I have a big sticker on my fork.

00:27:56.000 --> 00:28:03.359
Yeah, um, but yeah, so uh my my parents um had me a little older in life.

00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:05.839
So um my mom was almost 40 when she had me.

00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:08.799
Um I was a child, yeah.

00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:14.240
Um, she was told she was probably not gonna have kids, and um then here I come.

00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:24.720
And uh, but yes, they have always been very instrumental in just their support with me and and my my journey as an artist.

00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:42.000
Um I mean, I don't think you'll hear too many stories of parents taking their 11-year-old, who, mind you, was in private school, on a Friday after they've done a week of school to a smoky karaoke bar.

00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:50.799
And they're, you know, hey DJ, would would it be you know, we're her parents, would it be cool if you know she gets up there and sings in front of all these people, you know?

00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:53.680
And he's just like, yeah, yeah, if you're staying, that's totally fine.

00:28:53.759 --> 00:29:03.359
So they're over here making deals with like a DJ for an 11-year-old to get up on stage and sing like a random Martina McBride song, like, you know, like like because why not, you know?

00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:08.720
So I think it was like there they wanted to see two things.

00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:12.720
They wanted to see if I could handle it at a young age, being in front of a crowd.

00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:20.960
But they also wanted to see if do we have Rose colored glasses on about this chick, or do we really think that she can actually sing?

00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:23.519
So, you know, two birds with one stone.

00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:33.519
But um, but yes, that was the beginning of of their support, you know, in my in my growth there with like stage performance and things like that.

00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:51.599
So um, but yes, to this day, they are they come to most of my shows, and they're always every time I get in the car with them if we're like going out to dinner or something, I know that they're gonna just immediately put on Spotify some of my stuff or have the CD in their car player.

00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:54.400
I'm like, here we go.

00:29:55.359 --> 00:29:58.640
Oh so yeah, they're definitely my biggest fans.

00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:08.079
With all of that being said, um what would you say is like your inspiration?

00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:14.960
Like what what's the what's the like artist that you would say you're inspired most by?

00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:19.039
So it changes of course with age.

00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:28.160
Um absolutely I would say when I was a kid in my karaoke bar days, um, I was very much a Christine Aguilera fan.

00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:38.640
Um so I would get up there and just start singing the voice within and uh trying to take on all the divas of the time, Whitney, Mariah, you know, trying to get up there.

00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:44.400
It had to be like the biggest song, like go big or go home every Friday at this little bar.

00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:58.640
Um, but but Christine Aguilera, I really appreciated not maybe so much the music, but just the fact that she could really use her voice as an instrument and do all the runs and the range and everything.

00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:05.839
Um, but it wasn't until I got older that um I discovered Tonight Alive.

00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:39.599
Um, but Jenna McDougal is the lead singer, and she she is just I I don't even know how to put into words my respect that I have for her vocal ability, but her her lyrical writing, and the fact that she was able to make an incredible record with Underworld with this pop punk element and just such an expansive vocal range, too, that um is always just very impressive.

00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:45.279
And then she goes out and she does her solo gig called Heaven's She.

00:31:45.519 --> 00:32:01.039
And she base it's not really pop punk, it's more of like um, it's got an alternative feel, but it's very original in the sense that it's like it doesn't, it's it's not confined to one specific genre.

00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:09.200
Um, and so that's that is definitely an inspiration for me because I don't I don't want to keep writing the same thing over and over again.

00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:17.039
I always want to try and write something different and be kind of expansive and and push the limits where I need to push them and everything.

00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:25.039
Um, and I I admire Jenna because I feel like she does that, and she's done that with both Tonight Alive and then her solo project, Haven's she?

00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:26.400
So yeah.

00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:30.480
Um, so we have two final questions for the interview portion here.

00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.240
We ask all of our guests.

00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:36.079
Uh, my new favorite question is this next one.

00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:47.920
Um, what is an artist or band uh that you feel would be like a dream collaboration um that would fit your sound?

00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:56.319
Maybe not somebody that you idolize per se, but like somebody you think that if you were to sit down and collaborate with, you would put out something special.

00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:06.480
So um one artist that comes to mind um who is another big inspiration for me is Meg Myers.

00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:07.599
Yeah.

00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.000
I really love Meg Myers.

00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:39.279
Um, I feel like she is very authentic and um she writes music from that metaphor place, you know, that that I can tend to do at times, but she's she's got this edginess and angstiness with the way she delivers uh her vocal performances and choruses that I feel really convey um the the correct emotion for the song.

00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:49.119
And I I've always thought it would be cool to like do like this like dark indie acoustic thing with her and like do some cool harmonies or something.

00:33:49.279 --> 00:34:04.240
Like that would be a and like it, I I would I would settle for like it us never necessarily performing the song, like just like sitting barefoot, cross-legged on some living room floor with guitars and just like making some like magic right there, you know.

00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:08.559
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, like that would that would be pretty that'd be pretty cool.

00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:17.920
I would so Taylor, I know you don't remember this, but um Meg Myers did the cover of a song called Running Up the Hill.

00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.320
Yes, yes, she did it.

00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:41.519
I thought that she was the original artist, and we oh my god, yeah, and we had a whole thing on the show where I tore down Kate Bush for her performance on Stranger Things, and everybody was obsessed with that song from Stranger Things, and I was like, Meg Myers did this first.

00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:43.519
I don't know why we're all obsessed with it.

00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:49.440
Yeah, had no idea it was a conversation, and then he came back the next week and apologized.

00:34:49.760 --> 00:34:53.119
Yeah, so that did a great job.

00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:58.079
I mean, she she did, I mean, listening, was it placebo that also did a yeah, yeah.

00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:04.960
Placebo also did a and she did a more placebo style, and I loved that style, yeah.

00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:13.119
Yeah, because she's kind of that way in her music, you know, with like right listening to songs like Desire or my one of my favorite songs is Jealousy.

00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:17.199
If you ever listen to Jealousy and it's jealous C, like S E.

00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:17.920
Right.

00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:21.360
Um it is just in the music video.

00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:23.199
Oh my gosh, it's so good.

00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:29.519
Her acting in it, she does this like weird, like snakey thing, and I'm like, Oh, it's so dark and great.

00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:30.000
I love it.

00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.440
Like, oh my gosh, so good.

00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:38.800
Um, so yeah, that that's that was uh my Meg Myers experience.

00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:42.880
But this next question I'm actually really excited for as well.

00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:47.360
I don't normally enjoy asking this question because we get the same answer.

00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:48.079
Same answer.

00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:50.880
I have all delivered not the same answer.

00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:52.000
Uh imagine.

00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:58.960
Well, you're one of the few artists that I know that have been on the show recently that still do bridges.

00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:02.559
Yeah, and they're everyone, yeah.

00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:03.360
Really?

00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:04.719
Everyone's doing hooks.

00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:09.119
The question is we are called the hook and bridge podcast for you are yes.

00:36:09.679 --> 00:36:12.960
Um, I consider myself to be more of like the hook of the show.

00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.199
Taylor's more of the bridge of the show.

00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:16.400
I love this.

00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:27.840
So when you're producing music and writing music, what is more important to you as far as uh writing or producing side, the hook or the bridge of a song?

00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:30.239
I I love this question.

00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:35.360
I just have to say you need to ask this to every person always.

00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:37.679
Like this should be the staple moment of the show.

00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:45.199
Um so of course, a hook is very important because that is the catchy element of absolutely, you know, there's there's importance.

00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:59.679
But a bridge the bridge is monumental in a song because it is saying what the song is in a way that has not been said yet.

00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:05.119
And you've gone through two to three verses to two chorses by the time you get to that bridge.

00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:17.599
That bridge has to summarize in a different way, and honestly, in a way that should hit harder than any other portion of the song before you just sprinkle that hook right back on it.

00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.880
So I think bridge is probably depending on, of course, the song, right?

00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:28.480
Not every song needs a bridge, but the songs that need a bridge, I think that that's where the real power is.

00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:31.039
I love that answer.

00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:34.639
That wasn't the answer somebody else did.

00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:41.440
No, well, so a lot of times we'll have artists on and they just they don't do bridges really anymore.

00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:43.920
A lot of people be like, Oh, it's obviously the hook.

00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:46.159
Yeah, the hook is the only important part to them.

00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.360
Yeah, no, I'm very monumental.

00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:51.280
Yeah, I love a bridge.

00:37:51.440 --> 00:38:00.400
I do the way I've always said it, and I've said it several times on this show, is that a bridge can take a song from a great song to a legendary song.

00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.000
Yes, legendary song you've ever heard has an incredible bridge.

00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:05.440
You got it.

00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:06.000
Yep.

00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:08.079
Hotel California is always my main.

00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:10.079
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:11.119
Classic.

00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:12.480
Hi, yeah.

00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.360
Um, so are we ready for this game?

00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:16.559
I'm so excited.

00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:21.280
This is why I like to just show up because I don't know the game, and it's a little surprise.

00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:22.880
I don't know it either.

00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:24.639
So we're both surprised.

00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:28.159
Well, you're gonna love this one because you are a 90s baby like me.

00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:32.480
So are you familiar with a game called Cards Against Humanity?

00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:34.400
Yes, but I never played.

00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:35.599
Okay, that's okay.

00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:40.079
Yeah, so this this game this game is called Mixtape.

00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:49.599
The reason I love doing this game with up-and-coming artists is um it's a way for your audience and my audience to get to know your personality a little more.

00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:57.679
Um so basically, I'm gonna ask a prompt and you give an answer of a title of a song.

00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:01.679
So uh just for like a really simple one, just to get us started here.

00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:04.559
Like the best summer song.

00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.000
What would you consider like the best summer song?

00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:19.280
Man, I don't know why summertime sadness by Lana Del Rey and that remix comes in my head.

00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:34.400
I don't know why, but like that vibe, like when you're at the beach and you're like, I just imagine everybody owns a core, like a Corvette with a convertible, and the top is down, and everybody is vibing to the same emotion when they hear that song.

00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:39.920
Um but man, uh 90s music, like oh, what is the band?

00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:41.840
I'm blanking on their name right now.

00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:48.000
Um the song, the song ironically, I think is called Hook.

00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:49.840
Oh, yeah, blues traveler.

00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:55.679
Blues Traveler, like a whole blues traveler like album is like a summer song.

00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:58.559
Like I'm I'm actually going to see them on Sunday.

00:39:58.719 --> 00:39:59.519
Are you really?

00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.559
Yeah, aren't you supposed to be moving?

00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:03.519
Yeah, dude.

00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:05.440
I do I do a lot of things.

00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:12.320
I would also I would like to point out that our mom is literally on her way to Virginia to help him move.

00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:15.440
Yeah, she'll be here in like two hours.

00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:17.519
He's making plans.

00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:21.039
You're like, I finished the podcast, I was very productive while you were driving.

00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:26.239
You know, well, you if you get a chance to see Blues Traveler, you gotta go.

00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:29.199
My husband is a huge fan of them too.

00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.119
So I'm like, you know, that we need to make this happen.

00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:48.079
Like I actually originally, so our intro song is uh ladies and gentlemen by saliva, but my original plan was hook, and I was going to re-record it, and the the hook of the song was gonna be the hook and bridge podcast instead of just the hook brings you back.

00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:49.360
I love that.

00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:51.440
I right it's a great idea.

00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:52.239
You know what?

00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:58.320
Maybe since we're on the topic of summer, all of your summer podcast interviews can just we can change the intro.

00:40:59.280 --> 00:40:59.840
Oh, there we go.

00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:01.599
That would be so fun.

00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:02.800
That would be cool.

00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:06.960
I the only reason I didn't do it was because it is expensive.

00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:10.000
Yeah, yeah, that's fair.

00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:15.039
When we started looking into songs, um, Saliva was surprisingly free.

00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.480
Um that is surprising, yeah, yeah.

00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:22.480
And and uh Hook by Blues Traveler was pricey.

00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:27.360
So I was about to say it was definitely not free, definitely direction, yeah.

00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:29.519
Um, all right.

00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:30.559
Next one.

00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:36.159
If you had one classic rock to listen to while stranded on a desert island, what would it be?

00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.360
Like a song or an album or just an artist?

00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:41.119
Um uh we'll go with an album.

00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:46.719
You get an album because classic rock, an album's a far more interesting answer.

00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:47.440
Yeah.

00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:56.960
Oh my, I would say, oh man, everybody's gonna be like, Of course she said that.

00:41:57.039 --> 00:41:58.480
I've got to go with guns and roses.

00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:03.760
I like appetite for destruction, yes, because there's so much like variety there.

00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:19.679
Like, I just for some reason when you said that, I was thinking if album-wise, I gotta do something that's got range, and I just keep thinking of when I listened to that album the first time and I got to patience, and I was like, Yeah, I'm sold, I am so sold on like this whole vibe.

00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:21.679
So, yeah, that's what I would say.

00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:23.199
Good answer.

00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:29.280
I could definitely pick a song, but if you said an album, like I couldn't even begin to pick an album.

00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:36.320
There are so many I mean the first one that pops in my head obviously is uh uh Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon.

00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:37.360
I love that album.

00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:42.559
But again, if I'm on a desert island, do I really want to listen to Pink Floyd every day?

00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:48.800
Like, like some days, like you might wake up and it's like welcome to the jungle.

00:42:48.880 --> 00:42:57.199
I'm on this island, oh yeah, and then like there could be days where you're soaking up the sun and it's like, all right, this is you know, happy.

00:42:57.280 --> 00:42:59.440
Like maybe I'm feeling sweet shot of mine.

00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:00.079
Like, I don't know.

00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:00.559
Right.

00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:03.039
Variety with your mood on that album.

00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:06.480
Yeah, no, that's such a good answer.

00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:13.199
Um, best song to listen to while driving a monster truck in a monster truck rally.

00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:18.480
I saw this crop card and immediately thought of my answer.

00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:27.599
Um but I don't want I don't want to I don't want to stay before hers because I don't I don't want to take it in case it's I got it, I got it.

00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:32.079
I'm gonna go with Hail to the King by Aveng Sevenfold.

00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:44.800
Oh, what a great answer! Um can you believe in four years I have interviewed probably 75 plus people, and in four years, you're the first person to ever bring up the word Avenged Sevenfold on this show.

00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:46.559
Come on, isn't that crazy?

00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:48.159
You're so right.

00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.119
I know I love Avenged Sevenfold.

00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.239
I feel like I now have to go buy a monster truck.

00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.079
Like now we have this discussion, like it has to happen.

00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:04.639
It's crazy too because we've interviewed bands like The Used and Drowning Pool.

00:44:05.199 --> 00:44:06.320
Yeah, how cool.

00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:08.239
That's I love the used.

00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:12.079
We actually we just went to the mountains and we literally were spinning.

00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:13.840
Um, was it heartwork?

00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:15.840
Like the whole yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:17.920
My god, I love his voice too.

00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:23.280
Like birds absolutely, um, but you would think that one of them would bring up event centres.

00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:24.800
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.

00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:26.239
They're so right.

00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:29.679
Let's go get some monster trucks, y'all.

00:44:30.159 --> 00:44:30.800
Let's jump.

00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:34.559
My answer, my answer is uh Dragula by Rob Zombie.

00:44:34.719 --> 00:44:35.039
Oh, yeah.

00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:39.679
Yes, oh, love it.

00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:41.760
Yeah, love that song.

00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:47.119
Um, best song for a snow day at school.

00:44:47.280 --> 00:44:49.599
So back back when you were in school.

00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:52.159
Okay, all right.

00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:57.760
Oh, it's because I watched Snow Day, so it has to be There She Goes by Sixpence.

00:44:58.159 --> 00:44:59.119
Oh, yeah.

00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:01.119
I love that movie.

00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:02.880
I haven't seen that movie in so long.

00:45:03.199 --> 00:45:11.519
When I think of Snow Day, I'm like, yeah, it's definitely Sixpence, like it has to be like Snow Day was the one with uh where they make the snowballs, right?

00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:14.000
They have like the fort and they have the snowballs, yeah.

00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:38.880
And like all I all I remember because I was like a hopeless romantic, oh but like I just remember him like shoveling out the little whale that was on her like uh bracelet, you know, and yeah, I'm like, I think that's like when when she like left, leaves or whatever, and he's like, there she goes, you know, it's like like sixpence is like such a depressing moment for that movie, and of course, me, the dark person, would be like, that's a great snow.

00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:42.880
That's a great snowday song for getting the feels, yeah.

00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:43.760
Totally great.

00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:44.960
That's funny.

00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:46.960
Oh, here's an interesting one.

00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.400
Best song for a woman's rights march.

00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:54.320
Oh, ooh, that's tough.

00:45:55.039 --> 00:46:00.000
We need like a real like strong, like like feminist song.

00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:03.199
Yeah, I was gonna say like roar by carry.

00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:12.239
Oh, I mean, I mean, I mean, you're gonna hear them roar.

00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:16.559
Like they're I was gonna say woman by cash up, but oh, okay, all right.

00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:18.000
Yeah, yeah.

00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:21.280
I was thinking hailstorm, anything by hailstorm.

00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:24.000
Oh, I am the fire, yes.

00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:25.199
Oh, there you go.

00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:28.639
Yeah, that would be great.

00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:29.360
Very helpful.

00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:30.880
Oh, I love I love hailstorm.

00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:31.760
Me too.

00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:43.599
Um if you had one country song to listen to while on a desert island, oh you get you get one.

00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:46.320
We'll stick with song.

00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.599
Uh um deserted.

00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:50.400
Deserted.

00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:51.440
Okay.

00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:54.719
Yeah, that because it changes the song.

00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:59.119
Um, what hurts the most by Rascal Flats?

00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:00.639
Oh, wow.

00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:02.239
Because I mean, I'm in pain.

00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:03.039
I'm on this island.

00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:08.639
I'm like, I'm just gonna be depressed and listen to his voice the whole day on this repeat of this one song.

00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:12.000
Life is a highway, also.

00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:13.039
The Rascal Flat is.

00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:14.960
That's gonna be a happier version.

00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.039
Yes, but I'm dark, I'm messed up.

00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:20.000
That's just the movie cars on repeat.

00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:24.320
Yeah, I just like the first line of that song.

00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:26.960
I can take the rain on the roof of this empty house.

00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:28.800
There's no house, I'm on a desert island.

00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.920
I'm already like, yeah, really you're just taking the rain.

00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:34.000
A house with a roof.

00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:40.320
Every time I hear that song, I just think of the music video and how crazy the music video was.

00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:41.519
I don't even remember it.

00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:42.079
What is it?

00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:50.079
It's like it's like um it's it's about like somebody's boyfriend dying in a car crash.

00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.880
I suddenly regret mentioning the song.

00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:58.800
It was crazy, it but it but it didn't have anything to do with the song or the premise of the song.

00:47:58.880 --> 00:48:04.639
It was like, why why are we showing like this tragic car crash?

00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:06.960
You know, this is sounding very familiar now.

00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.360
Does is it like like the band shots?

00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:11.360
Aren't they like performing in the rain?

00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:12.639
Yes, yeah, yeah.

00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:22.559
And then she's like in the house and she's like staring at the photograph, and like he gets in this horrible car accident, and it has nothing to do with the song.

00:48:22.800 --> 00:48:23.920
That is wild.

00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:28.719
That's uh yeah, the 2000s, dude.

00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:32.000
The 2000s, like CMT in the 2000s was wild.

00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:40.639
It really legit was like we were obsessed in the 2000s with Jack Ingram's version of lips of lips on a uh lips of an angel.

00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:48.239
Yeah, oh yeah, and it was just a song about cheating on your wife, like full on like listen to it today, actually.

00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:49.519
Yes, it's bad.

00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:53.280
No, and then what about um what was the other one that Hinder did?

00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:56.400
Um uh get stoned, better than me.

00:48:56.559 --> 00:49:01.119
Oh, better than me, yeah, about him with the chick in the dressing room and stuff, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:13.039
What you guys are like writing in this very very specific vein, yes, like you know, expand your range just a little bit, very niche population for very niche, yes.

00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.320
Yeah, well, some would argue maybe not that niche.

00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:19.679
That's fair.

00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.960
I wonder if he was married when that album came out.

00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:24.239
You know what I mean?

00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:27.920
Like, if I was that wife, I'd be like, hey, we gotta we gotta talk.

00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.159
It probably didn't pass very long after that.

00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:35.280
Like, yeah, that's a hell of a way to find out, though.

00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.119
Yeah, crazy.

00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.719
That is true, unless like I think she was just oblivious.

00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:43.440
She listened to the album, she's like, ah, it's great.

00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:50.480
So, first song you knew that you would get in trouble for listening to.

00:49:52.639 --> 00:50:02.320
So that's a difficult that's that's difficult because my mother and my father were very open with what I could listen to.

00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:03.039
Really?

00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:07.280
See, I was thinking with older parents they would be much more reserved.

00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:15.599
Yeah, they they so my my mom is a very creative type.

00:50:15.840 --> 00:50:21.840
So, like when I say creative, like she comes from background of figure skating.

00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:23.440
Like, she was a figure skater.

00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:25.840
She that's awesome, yeah.

00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:37.440
And so she would actually um my cousin was uh a national medalist, and he did tours in Europe with like uh different skating associations and teams and stuff.

00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:47.840
And she when he was younger and she would bring him up, he would do she would do his like choreography for his skating programs, and she'd like design his like outfits and stuff.

00:50:48.639 --> 00:51:00.320
So she has like a very like strong appreciation for like the arts, and like I feel like she sees through stuff, like and my mom heard like a really dirty song.

00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.039
It was like the same answer always.

00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:05.920
It was like, well, they're laughing to the bank.

00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:09.360
Like she'd always say that every single one, she's like, they're laughing to the bank.

00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:12.239
I'm like, you don't really and I would I would question her.

00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:16.320
I'm like, don't you think that like this isn't like great, like of an image for them?

00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:18.559
And she's just like, Nah, they're laughing to the bank.

00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:19.039
Fine.

00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:21.280
I'm like, all right, all right.

00:51:21.440 --> 00:51:25.440
And like, so like for me, and I think like me and her are very close.

00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:30.239
And so, like, she knew who I was, and I was very like grounded as a person, like morally and everything.

00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:40.719
So she's like, you know, listen away, yeah, what you pick, you're a sponge, you know, just allow your creative juices to flow, kind of deal.

00:51:40.880 --> 00:52:00.559
Um, so I I mean, I was listening to Christine Aguilar's stripped album, which I mean's like yeah, us down, and like I mean, she's got some like Spanish songs in there that are a little bit spicy, like on the heavy spice side, if you know what I'm saying.

00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:05.360
And I'm like, you know, over here just like belting them out in the car, just like vibing out.

00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.280
She's just like, that's good.

00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:09.440
Your your range is really improving on that one.

00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:16.239
So now this isn't one of the prompts, but now I have to ask.

00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.039
Like, we've all been teenagers before.

00:52:19.199 --> 00:52:23.760
Yeah, your mom was far more open-minded than my mom.

00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:34.639
So now there has to be a moment, a song that your mom listened to that she was definitely far too old to enjoy that had to have embarrassed you.

00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:40.320
There's gotta be one that you're just like, oh no, mom, you can't be into Tupac right now.

00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:51.039
Like, I think honestly, for me, like in middle school, oh god, it was my humps by black eyed peas.

00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:52.719
I'm like, that's great.

00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:53.519
That's great.

00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:57.599
Like, gosh, she's like, but it's kind of catchy.

00:52:57.760 --> 00:52:59.599
I'm like, oh god, help me.

00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:01.280
Like, oh my god.

00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:13.280
Like, I hated that song because all of my middle school friends were just like, Yeah, this is like a dirty way for us to like say dirty things without being like, you know, really overly provocative about it.

00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:16.159
And I'm like, no, no, this is not good.

00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:23.119
And then my mom's like I played the song for my mom, and she's just like over here, like double barreled laughing, laughing her butt off.

00:53:23.199 --> 00:53:28.800
And like, and then and then we have the same experience with uh beep by pussycat dolls.

00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:29.840
Remember that gem over here?

00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:30.880
Oh, yeah.

00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:37.440
So I would say definitely those were like, okay, all right.

00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:39.280
Well, that happened.

00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:40.320
That just happened.

00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:53.199
That's like when uh Taylor, you remember when mom got obsessed with whistle by uh Florida Georgia line and had no idea legitimately thought it was about whistling.

00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:57.039
Do you remember that when we had to have that conversation that thought what it was about?

00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.119
She was like, What do you mean?

00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:00.719
And I was in high school.

00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:04.639
I was like, there's no way that I have to explain this to you right now.

00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:07.760
Obsessed with that song.

00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:18.880
Speaking of uh embarrassing high school moments, what was the most embarrassing thing for you that I listened to when you were in high school when I would come and pick you up from school?

00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:23.199
Oh, was there ever a thing where you were like, I don't want to walk to the car right now?

00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:27.599
Um I'm I'm gonna say something, and I don't want your ego to get big, okay?

00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:30.639
Oh, collectively we should take a deep breath.

00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:32.000
Yeah, yeah, no, totally.

00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:34.239
My head won't get any bigger, I promise.

00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:43.360
I wanted to be you so bad because you were the coolest person to me, so I was never embarrassed.

00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:45.199
I was like, Yeah, blare it.

00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:48.880
Like the sweetest thing ever.

00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:51.840
Yeah, I would because he would pick me up in his little what was it?

00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:52.800
What car was it?

00:54:52.960 --> 00:54:55.840
Uh it was a uh 93 Firebird.

00:54:56.239 --> 00:54:56.960
Firebird.

00:54:57.199 --> 00:55:02.400
It was a two-door, and it sat so low, and he would be blaring all kinds of music.

00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:06.480
Nirvana, um, Here Come the Mummies.

00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:07.440
What's the other one?

00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:12.480
Electric Six, Electric Six, Metallica, heck yeah, yeah.

00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:16.000
And I just thought you were so cool, and I was like, This is awesome.

00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:17.519
That this is my ride home.

00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:18.800
Like, that's sick.

00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.880
You're like just like walking away from your friends, and you're like, That's my brother.

00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:23.760
That's my brother.

00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:29.679
That's yeah, that's I also didn't have friends, so like take that as you will.

00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:30.800
You know what I mean?

00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.480
Girl, you and me are the same plot, legit.

00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:38.800
Like, yeah, the the I feel like the original people, you know what I mean?

00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:42.639
Yeah, we just you know, where the bridges are okay, you know.

00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:48.320
There was like a few years where we were just like, you know, it's a little sad, and then we're like, you know what, I wouldn't have it any other way though.

00:55:48.400 --> 00:55:55.840
Yeah, I enjoy I am unap unapologetically myself, and I love that, and I love that because I'm the same way.

00:55:56.159 --> 00:55:58.960
So exactly this is this is this is a great show.

00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:00.960
I'm having a really good time.

00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:03.360
I know this spot.

00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:05.920
All right, we have one more.

00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:08.960
Oh, oh wait, no, we already did that one.

00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:09.760
Oh, we're out.

00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:10.639
That's it.

00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:11.360
That was it.

00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:12.400
I'm so sorry.

00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:13.599
That's so sad.

00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:18.400
I almost asked you what your favorite summer song was again.

00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:23.679
Oh, we already knew Blues Traveler I got it right this time.

00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:27.840
Well, Lauren, thank you so much for coming by and hanging out with us.

00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:29.280
Um for having me.

00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:30.639
This has really been a lot of fun.

00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:33.440
Now, are you doing any any touring?

00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:38.639
No, we're kind of staying local to uh Raleigh, Raleigh, North Carolina right now.

00:56:38.719 --> 00:56:42.320
I mean, if we You're Raleigh local, say that again.

00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:45.360
You're from Raleigh, yeah, she's so close to you.

00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:47.360
Like four hours away.

00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:48.880
Oh, wait, where are you?

00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:50.800
Um, like Virginia Beach area.

00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:52.079
Oh my gosh, yeah.

00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:54.559
Like this is like great.

00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:56.800
Yeah, we're gonna go rally neighbors.

00:56:56.880 --> 00:57:03.199
Like yeah, I feel like my my two friends are being best friends together, and I'm in a different state.

00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:05.119
That's yeah, Taylor's in Florida.

00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:05.760
I'm in Florida.

00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:07.519
Oh, you need to come up, come up this way.

00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:09.039
I agree, yeah.

00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:12.000
It'll be good, it'll be good.

00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:21.360
But uh, but no, and like if we do any touring, it would I would say, you know, we all kind of have like day jobs and you know, routes and stuff.

00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:30.000
So our our passions are really just putting out music that we feel and getting into studio and releasing stuff when we can.

00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:39.519
And we of course perform locally, but like if we were to expand, I think it would be more on like a regional level, like maybe coming to your neck of the woods at some.

00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:43.760
Um, but but yeah, and sky's the limit, you know.

00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:50.559
I I can never, it's such a difficult question to ask because I never know where this crazy musical path will take me.

00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:56.800
But um, we are we're so open-minded to uh to and you know the opportunities that may potentially arise.

00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:58.480
So nothing is limits.

00:57:58.719 --> 00:57:59.199
Yeah.

00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:03.679
Well, the EP is called Preserve Love Here, right?

00:58:03.920 --> 00:58:04.400
Yep.

00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:06.559
And I absolutely love it.

00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:08.079
I love all of your guys' work.

00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:14.960
I I truly I I love the EP, but I do think from within is such a phenomenal album.

00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:24.559
Um, we I know we didn't dive super deep into it because I wanted to focus on the EP, but if if you're listening, definitely go check that one out because I think front to back, that album's awesome.

00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:25.440
So thank you.

00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:27.920
Um thanks for keeping rock alive, by the way.

00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:29.440
Yeah, you know, absolutely.

00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:30.559
That's what I'm here for.

00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:32.159
I will never not do that.

00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:34.480
All right.

00:58:34.559 --> 00:58:36.639
Well, it has been an absolute blast.

00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:38.079
Thank you so much for joining us, Lauren.

00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:39.679
Thank you both.

00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:40.480
Take care.

00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:41.840
All right, we'll see ya.

00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:42.400
See ya.

00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:43.440
Bye.

00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:50.239
All right, buddy.

00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:52.400
That was so much fun.

00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:54.320
Uh are you kidding me?

00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:55.760
Guys, I had such a good time.

00:58:55.920 --> 00:58:59.760
Um, before we end the show, we have one minute.

00:58:59.920 --> 00:59:02.480
Can I share with the class what you sent to my house?

00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:04.880
Uh yes, please do.

00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:07.920
So, can I first of all Can we cover this in a minute?

00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:10.559
Because no, it's gonna be a little longer.

00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:12.000
It might be like 105.

00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:13.280
Okay, listen.

00:59:13.519 --> 00:59:15.599
So Dylan texted me while I was at work.

00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:21.119
He said, Hey, by the way, a package came for you and then told me what was in the package.

00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.360
I said, I didn't order that.

00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:25.599
He was like, girl, it has your name on it.

00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:28.159
I said, Okay, I didn't order that.

00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:29.920
So that's what I was thinking about it.

00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:33.599
And I said, I think Harley or Lindsay ordered that for me.

00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.920
So for everyone listening, I texted in the group chat.

00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:42.079
We have a group chat with the two of us, and I said, Did you guys send something to my house?

00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:46.400
And Lindsay said yes, and then Harley told me to learn how to read.

00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:59.920
They sent the story of my life by sent this to my house and I said, I will gladly read Ann's book.

01:00:03.760 --> 01:00:06.800
Also, we all have beef, and I can share this with the internet.

01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:07.840
I'm sharing it.

01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:12.800
Harley had the audacity to call one of my best friends.

01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.840
Oh, we're talking about the Taylor Swift thing?

01:00:16.639 --> 01:00:19.039
Called and then tried to bring up Helen Keller.

01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:24.159
To which Miss McKenna White said, no, sir.

01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:26.239
From my understanding.

01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:28.079
That is not how it went.

01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:29.760
That is not how it went.

01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:34.480
Because she called me after and said, you'll never guess what your brother just asked me.

01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:38.079
Because her and I were also talking about it right before you called her.

01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:44.880
I swayed her opinion back to no rooted in facts.

01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:45.440
I did.

01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:46.400
I absolutely did.

01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:48.960
I think you're lying because she would never lie to me.

01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:50.559
Hey, I'm telling you the fact.

01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:55.920
The fact is, she's she said, Oh, I didn't know that about her.

01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:58.960
And then I gave her the whole spiel about everything.

01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:05.840
I I also she was talking to one of her friends about it and just for fun, like brought it up and was like, Oh, how do you feel?

01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:16.639
And her friend literally turned around, she took a video, turned around, and got so animated about this, and was so passionately on my side that I was like, Oh, that's so funny.

01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:18.880
Because also, I need everyone listening.

01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:22.400
I just think it's a funny thing, and I like to understand people's opinions.

01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:23.599
Do you know what I mean?

01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:24.639
Like, it's just a fun thing.

01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:25.840
Like, yeah.

01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:28.559
Anywho, no, so I think that's so funny.

01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:32.400
I was gonna start asking customers today at work, but I don't know if it's appropriate.

01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:43.920
I also I have started asking everyone I during the live show, it was the first thing that I talked about in our live show.

01:01:44.559 --> 01:01:48.639
Also, can we please talk about how this book is only 145 pages?

01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:55.519
Only give her a break, she couldn't see she did or here, and she didn't write it.

01:01:55.840 --> 01:01:59.360
Hey, those are some strong words there, buddy.

01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:02.159
I'm I can't, I want to hash this out.

01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:03.199
I really do.

01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:04.559
No, I basically can't.

01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:05.519
I'm so hungry.

01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:07.119
Yeah, I'm so hungry.

01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:07.599
We can't.

01:02:07.679 --> 01:02:10.320
It's not even a hash out, it's just a fun little thing.

01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:11.760
It's not that deep.

01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:14.960
Yeah, no, but we gotta we gotta keep it going for the audience.

01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:15.519
They love it.

01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:16.239
Oh, you're right.

01:02:16.320 --> 01:02:16.880
You know what?

01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:18.400
I like how it wasn't real.

01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:22.320
This is the the the the the breaking point of the show.

01:02:22.559 --> 01:02:23.599
We should ask Lauren.

01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:27.760
Can we oh should we start doing that as a third question?

01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:29.280
Can I ask?

01:02:29.599 --> 01:02:35.039
Yes, it's like it's like that that one episode of um what is it?

01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:43.840
Ah um in practical jokers when Sal's interviewing his niece, and she was like, So why haven't you enlisted in the um army yet?

01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:46.159
Do you not want to defend the country or something like that?

01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:47.039
That's how I feel.

01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:57.119
Like you ask one question, I'm like, How do you literally, literally, I asked everyone at the live show, do you believe in Helen Keller?

01:02:57.599 --> 01:02:59.599
That's not that's not the question, though.

01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:05.599
And then and then this one uh this one lady goes, Wait, like as a person, she was a real person.

01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:08.639
And I was like, No, do you think like all the stuff she did was real?

01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:10.239
And she was like, Oh, yeah, no.

01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:14.719
Anywho, we should ask Lauren.

01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:15.679
That's crazy.

01:03:16.159 --> 01:03:18.639
We'll have her back on just for that question.

01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.320
No, Lauren was great, that was a fantastic interview.

01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:22.960
I had a blast.

01:03:23.679 --> 01:03:24.639
I loved her energy.

01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:25.679
Yeah, she's my girl.

01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:28.320
And I'm excited to listen to her music.

01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:29.760
Dude, I hope you love it.

01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:30.800
I think it's super good.

01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:33.519
I I'm like genuinely like really excited to go listen to it.

01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:34.400
Hell yeah.

01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:38.639
Um, anywho, okay guys, hope you enjoyed today's episode.

01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:44.400
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01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:47.760
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01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:53.039
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01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:56.159
We've got a merch page, all of the good things.

01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:58.159
The merch page will be active soon.

01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:00.000
It hasn't been active this whole time.

01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:05.519
Um, that's funny because I was buying and selling a house, so I couldn't set up a PayPal account.

01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:11.280
So now all of that will be done here soon, and I'll be able to set up the PayPal account, and then people can start buying merch.

01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:12.239
That's really fun.

01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:18.800
Yeah, but also the next time we do this, I'll be in a new location.

01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:21.119
Ah, so exciting.

01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:22.480
Oh, I love that.

01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:28.159
I I I heard that your baby was baffled that everything was out of your house.

01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:36.400
That's that's he came in, he was like, ah, he came in, and Lindsay said he kept going, ah word there.

01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:40.400
Anywho, he's gotten so fun.

01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:44.000
Uh he was really fun when she called me his little face.

01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:46.159
I said hi buddy, he went.

01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:54.719
He also has started saying no, but like like going like this, like understanding.

01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:56.239
Like, if I'm like, hey, do you want this?

01:04:56.320 --> 01:04:58.159
He's like, no, not really, dude.

01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:00.320
Uh he said chicken.

01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:04.000
Yeah, he's he's his vocabulary is getting pretty good.

01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:06.000
I I think that's because of me.

01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:10.639
Not to brag, but I talked to your baby nonstop for eight months straight.

01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:14.559
I mean, time he woke up until he went to bed, I talked to that baby.

01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:19.760
Um, yeah, he went chicken, and I went, huh?

01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:21.840
That's a two syllable.

01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:24.880
Anywho, all right, let's get off here so you can go eat dinner.

01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:26.079
All right, buddy.

01:05:26.239 --> 01:05:27.119
Thanks for hanging out.

01:05:27.199 --> 01:05:27.840
I'll see ya.

01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:29.599
Goodbye.

01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:35.840
Thanks for listening to the Hogan Bridge Podcast.