Jan. 26, 2026

Behind The Hook And Bridge: Fan Q&A

Behind The Hook And Bridge: Fan Q&A

Send in your music story! Plans changed fast after a storm rolled through, our co-host got called into work, and the “Pokemon live play” turned into something more revealing. We open the mics and go all-in on the real stuff: how this show started, what we’ve learned from wild guests and early missteps, and how it feels to build a community when the industry worships follower counts over actual listeners. We swap nostalgia—VHS Pokemon marathons, Yu-Gi-Oh binges, and the new Pokemon LEGO sets ...

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Season 2

Send in your music story!

Plans changed fast after a storm rolled through, our co-host got called into work, and the “Pokemon live play” turned into something more revealing. We open the mics and go all-in on the real stuff: how this show started, what we’ve learned from wild guests and early missteps, and how it feels to build a community when the industry worships follower counts over actual listeners.

We swap nostalgia—VHS Pokemon marathons, Yu-Gi-Oh binges, and the new Pokemon LEGO sets that look incredible and cost a small fortune—and sketch our dream: a true “Pokemon Classic” anthology on Switch that respects fans and preserves the games’ history. From there, we get practical about production: why some early episodes came down, how latency and live tech checks influence the flow, and the difference between a tight interview and a warm hang. Expect shoutouts to underrated conversations (Men Without Hats, Ohio Weather Band, Just Happy To Be Here) and a few candid notes on episodes we’d love to redo with the skills we have now.

The heart of the episode lands on music, mental health, and purpose. We share the songs that carried us through rough seasons, morning rituals that keep us grounded, and “parallel play” routines that make ordinary days feel gentle again. We also face the creative math: follower growth drives bookings, and that reality can sting when posts get silence. Still, a single message from a listener on a health journey or a guest who felt truly seen is enough to keep going. If you’ve ever wondered what keeps an indie podcast alive, it’s this mix of honesty, small joys, and a stubborn belief in connection over clout.

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00:00 - Storms, Intros, And A Pivot

02:20 - Taylor’s Job Update And TJ Maxx Saga

11:45 - Nostalgia: Yu-Gi-Oh, Pokemon, And Cartoons

18:50 - Pokemon At 30 And LEGO Hype

23:14 - How The Podcast Started And Early Chaos

28:29 - Guests Who Shocked Us, Good And Bad

33:44 - Comments, Critique, And Running A Show

41:54 - Off-Mic Laughs And Sibling Dynamics

47:04 - Music That Got Us Through Hard Times

55:14 - Routines, Podcasts We Love, And Daily Life

01:02:04 - Purpose, Burnout, And Finding Small Joys

01:12:49 - Failure, Growth, And Redefining Success

01:21:04 - Why Follows Matter And Support Helps

01:28:54 - Merch, Links, And Closing Thanks

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I fucking love it.

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I'm the worst person to have a podcast.

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I feel very what is up, everybody.

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Welcome back to the Hook and Bridge podcast.

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I am your host, joined today by my co-host and little sister Taylor.

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And unfortunately, we got hit with a torrential storm.

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I'm sure most of the country is going through this right now, too.

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So uh I hope you understand that Chris was not able to join us.

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He Benjamin got it.

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He had to go to work.

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Um he is he is doing his job and keeping people safe out there on the streets.

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Um, so he's not able to join us today.

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And we had something very special planned for this episode.

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So what we're going to do is we're going to call this episode 181 and a half.

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Yes.

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Right.

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So next week, or maybe even later this week, depending on when we record it, will be episode 182.

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And we are doing a full Blink 182 themed episode.

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So we need to give it away.

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That's alright.

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Um, but this is gonna be a fun one.

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Uh Taylor and I are going to celebrate Pokemon's 30th anniversary by playing some Pokemon here live on the show.

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Uh, we are going to form a team of six, and we are gonna name them after musicians.

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It's gonna be Taylor's job to pick those musicians.

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Fun.

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Are you excited?

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On top of that, we have some questions that we had the fans come up with.

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Uh, just some general like questions about the show and questions about us, just a little QA that we're gonna do while we do all of this.

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Uh, but before we dive into all of that, Taylor.

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Yes.

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There's no way you don't have some sort of a story.

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I do.

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I actually was just thinking about it today.

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Okay, so first of all, do we just want an update on Taylor's life?

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It looks like it.

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New job is going well.

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I'm a big fan.

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Um, I will find I I did find out some unfortunate things.

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I don't get PTO, which is unfortunate.

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Um, it's okay though.

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You know, it is what it is.

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You don't get you don't get any pay time off at all.

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Nope.

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Zero.

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That's because that's so because it's a small company, um, that's how they afford the position that I'm in.

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Is by like not giving my position pay time off.

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Which is fine.

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I don't miss work often.

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Do you know what I mean?

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It sucks for like weddings that we have coming up this summer that I have a week off.

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But luckily, I am not the breadwinner in the relationship.

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So like it'll it'll be okay.

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So they will let you take time off.

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Yeah, I can take it.

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I just want to get paid.

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Yeah.

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At least they have that.

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Because some people would be like, no, you don't get any time off.

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Which is crazy because I'm just like not gonna be there for a week.

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I don't know what to tell you.

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Yeah, and and luckily, the one wedding, like I'm only gonna be taking off Friday.

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You know what I mean?

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Like, it's just a weekend thing.

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I don't work the weekend.

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This is my first weekend free in six months.

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Oh, nice.

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That's really fun.

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Um, anywho, okay.

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So here's my story.

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I have a story and a haul if you would like it, if we have time.

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Uh, sure.

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Went to TJ Maxx today.

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Let me I can you hear them?

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Uh I can hear that, but it's fine.

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Dogs are dogs, it's not a big deal.

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Our fans know.

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These dogs are the worst.

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I love them though.

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So I have I can only wear like athletic wear to work.

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And this is not a problem.

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I'm not complaining about this, but my athletic wear has to look professional.

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So like I have leggings, but they're more like lounging leggings.

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They've been through the ringer.

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I've been wearing them for four years, you know what I mean?

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So I have um one nice pair of leggings and I bought a couple pairs of joggers from Amazon.

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But I was like, okay, well, I that I'm the type of person that like, if I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna do it.

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Like when I got my job at Starbucks, I bought like four pairs of pants.

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I got a bunch of black t-shirts.

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I mean, I also was like, Starbucks, you you can't rewear clothes.

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Like that it's gotta go in the washer that night.

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Like it gets nasty.

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But for here, I was like, okay, well, let me get a couple of nice athletic black shirts because I don't have all the gear yet, right?

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And then, you know, let me get a couple nice pairs of leggings so that then I'm set for the week.

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But and I'm good, I don't have to worry about it.

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And like we have a dress code.

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So Tuesdays and Thursdays, I had to wear my polo that was given to me.

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And then Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I have to wear some sort of shirt with like the company logo.

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I only have one of those shirts because I'm new.

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So I was told that I can wear instead of that, like an all-black outfit, uh, which also is fine.

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So I go to TJ Maxx.

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I'm like, okay, well, today is like, let me go to TJ Maxx, let me get my leggings, let me get a couple black pairs of shirts.

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So I'm ready to go.

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Awful experience, awful, terrible.

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I have decided that I don't I don't like shopping when it feels like a chore.

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It felt like a chore, so there was that.

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Hello?

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Can you hear that?

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Oh, okay, good, good, good.

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Um Dylan's mom screaming, she does that a little bit.

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No, Dylan's dad is screaming.

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Yeah.

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Anywho, so I get my shirts, I get my leggings.

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I only well, I only got one pair of leggings, none of them have pockets.

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What's up with that?

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Why can't I get leggings with pockets?

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What's going on with that, guys?

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Okay, I'm a girl, I get it, but like our leggings should have pockets.

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Also, try to find black shirts.

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Tell me why.

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In all of TJ Maxx, the only black shirts are like paired with another shirt.

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I don't want two shirts.

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I don't want two of them.

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I don't.

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I only need the one, I only need the one black shirt.

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Like, I kept finding black shirts.

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I'm like, oh, this would be great.

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It's paired with like a beige shirt.

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It's paired with a brown shirt.

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I'm like, first of all, if I want to buy two of it, I want to buy it on my own.

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I don't need them paired.

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I don't need this other shirt.

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That is a waste to me, right?

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I finally found a pair that had a white shirt and a black shirt.

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And I was like, okay, I guess I can wear the white shirt.

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So that's that's my big complaint.

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Why are we doing that to women?

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I know that people think that women love overconsumption.

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I don't need two shirts.

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I only needed the one.

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Like I'm so mad about it.

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So then I um I'm also perusing, you know what I mean?

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I found something for mom for her birthday.

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I found these like glass porcelain book decor pieces that have been on my pinch list for a long time for when Dylan and I move out.

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Like, I would love to have these as like decor pieces.

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And I found like they had some at Five Low, and I do want to grab those ones too, because they're like flower bases.

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Um, but I found them at TJ Maxx.

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I found big ones that are like a bajillion dollars anywhere else, ten dollars a piece.

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There you go.

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I snagged both.

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I got two of them.

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Um, I get to check out.

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I had a couple other things.

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This woman who was checking me out, she was from Armenia.

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Okay, Armin Armenia.

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Armenia, Armenia, same difference.

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Anywho.

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Shout out uh system of a down, Armenians, the Kardashians.

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The Kardashians.

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So she gets this book and she goes, Oh my gosh, she gets she's getting my porcelain thing, and she goes, I read this book as a little girl.

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And like she's telling me all about this book and like her life growing up.

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Sorry, go ahead.

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Okay, no, I was just I was confused.

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I I thought these were like clear glasses.

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No, let me let me show you.

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Let me show you what I'm talking about.

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I didn't know there was gonna be a title on on these vases.

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So so these ones aren't vases, unfortunately.

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I wish they were.

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Oh, perfect.

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This is the one that she had read as a little girl.

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So this is what they look like.

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Okay, and they're like they're for the listeners out there.

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So this is a a porcelain, uh, literally a book made out of porcelain.

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Yes, um, it's big.

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It says Jane Eyre on the front of it.

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Jane Eyre, I think.

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I think it's ayre, maybe.

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Um, but this is an actual book, and then I got another one that's just like this, but it's little women, so these are actual like classic books.

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Yes, yeah, yeah.

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So so it's also it's white, and the accents are green.

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It's like a sage green.

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There's uh a price tag on the side of it there.

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From TJ Maxx.

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From TJ Maxx, and then I got the other one is little women, and it's pink, so it's white, but it has pink accents.

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But anyway, so she she's looking at the Jane one and she's wicked coated, very wicked coated.

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Oh, I also I'll get to that in a minute.

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Um, anywho, so she was like, Oh my gosh, like I read these, I read this as a little girl, and I watched her, like, she relived her childhood with me.

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And I I have moments in life, actually, I have them all the time because I do love people.

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You know what I mean?

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I love good people, I love human interaction.

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But like it was one of those things where I'm like, I like this moment, I was like, I am here for a reason.

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Do you know what I mean?

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Do you ever have those moments when you're talking with someone and you're like, this is my reason?

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I'm just gonna lie and say yeah.

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Well, it's it's like, what if I wasn't there and then she didn't get to relive that?

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Like, she was so happy reliving that.

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And I know that she's gonna think about just like growing up the rest of her day.

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She's gonna be like, oh my gosh, like I got to do all of these things because just because of this book, just because of this purchase, seeing that and just like the light in her eyes of being like, Oh my gosh, I read this as a kid, like it's such a beautiful story.

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And she was like, You have to read it.

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And then I said, Well, I haven't read that one, but I've read Little Women.

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She said, I've never read it.

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I said, You read little women, I'll read that one, right?

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Like, anywho, so then I had gotten mom this really pretty, like, crystal cross.

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Okay.

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And she goes, Oh my gosh, is this for you?

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And I and I said, No, it's for my mom, you know, her birthday's coming up, and I know that she'll love it.

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And she said, Are you like, are you a believer?

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And I said, I am, you know, it's a very important part of me.

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And then she was like, you know, me too, obviously, where she grew up.

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So then we started talking about that.

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And she said, if you ever get the chance, you know, if you ever have the chance to go visit, she said, the churches are gorgeous.

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She said, Go to Jerusalem, go to Bethlehem.

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She was like, You'll feel like she said, I've never felt closer to God than than being in those places, like going through this whole thing, and again, just watching her like relive everything.

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It was a really great experience.

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That that sounds wonderful.

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Can I also just say, uh, currently, in in the current state of things, maybe not?

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I have not got setup plans.

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No, no, I'm not going.

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But but I'm like, no, like a wild thing to say in 2026.

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She, I mean, she that's where she grew up.

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Like, she she has no problems with it.

00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:53.039
Like, it was just, I don't know.

00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:59.600
Yeah, it was um she's just out there like, oh, if you ever get a chance, the Gaza Strip, especially this time of year.

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Um no, it it was.

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It was a it was a really sweet interaction, and it truly made my day.

00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:08.639
I will say I spent too long in that store.

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I didn't get I still had to go to Aldi.

00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:14.879
Um, but I actually didn't go to Aldi because I had to come here and do this podcast.

00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:15.600
You're welcome.

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There you go.

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Um, so I'll go to Aldi later.

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Commitments.

00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:21.679
Anywho, that's my story.

00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:26.159
I also have been having some nostalgia moments recently.

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Really?

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Yeah, I I recently um with with the current issues of Pokemon cards and and trying to find them in any capacity being damn near impossible, um, started getting back into Yu-Gi-Oh! and I started watching um the show from the beginning a couple weeks ago.

00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:58.000
Just turned it on when you know, at because Adam is at a point where like we're trying to limit his TV time.

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Yeah.

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So I try to put on cartoons, but not cartoons that are his age, so he doesn't care.

00:13:04.960 --> 00:13:07.759
Well, he just doesn't really care about them, but they're still cartoons.

00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:16.000
Well, yeah, because cut cartoons his age are are screaming at him and have the bright colors, and they're they're meant to trap your kids.

00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:17.759
Well, uh die on that hill.

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So what I did was I started doing uh Yu-Gi-Oh and got through season one and just finished up season two, and then yesterday I watched the movie, and then this morning I watched another movie.

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Um, so I've just been getting super into it, man.

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I I've really been enjoying myself.

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Started playing it on the Switch again.

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Yeah.

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I feel that way whenever Dylan and I like watch Pokemon.

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I know, because it's like I get I get really emotional with Pokemon.

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Like, I I don't know, something about Pikachu jumping off the side of a building that like makes me cry.

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Anywho, um, I I do I get that way whenever I'm showing Dylan, you know things with Pokemon.

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I'm like, ah, I remember the good old days.

00:14:04.480 --> 00:14:06.879
Like, I remember watching it on VHS, right?

00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.039
Yeah, no, that's understandable.

00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.279
Yeah, we um we started watching.

00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:15.200
I don't know if if you've ever seen it, I didn't see it because we didn't have cable.

00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.840
Um, but Total Drama Island.

00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:19.279
Have you ever seen that?

00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:23.440
I've seen bits and pieces of it like throughout my life.

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I've always thought it was kind of crazy that that was a children's show.

00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:35.360
I just remember seeing like naked people, and I'm like, yo, this is this is on Cartoon Network right now.

00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:36.559
It's crazy.

00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:39.039
Dylan, it's there's only two seasons, okay?

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Probably for a reason, but there's only two seasons.

00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:42.399
Dylan put it on the other night.

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He went to go get a shower, and I was like, Oh, I've never seen this.

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And he goes, That's crazy.

00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:48.480
He said, You have you have to see it.

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So he puts it on the TV.

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I'm I'm three episodes in.

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I text him, I said, dude, what is this?

00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:59.279
Like the commentary, the commentary is in yeah, yeah.

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Um, I'm like, this literally could not air today.

00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:04.960
Also, like it's wild.

00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:11.679
I didn't watch that, but as an adult, um like within the last five years, we had cable.

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They had like uh they revamped it, but they're all like kids, like little kids.

00:15:18.480 --> 00:15:22.480
And then there's like the sergeant guy, and he like runs the daycare.

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Uh, what's it called?

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I think it's called like total drama rama or something like that.

00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:27.440
Exactly.

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It's actually it's great, so funny.

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It's so funny.

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It's so good.

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It's so funny.

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It's like the Teen Titans Go, but the Yeah, it's so good.

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I just I did like that.

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I love Teen Titans Go.

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And Dylan and I were trying to figure out what to watch yesterday or not yesterday, the other day.

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Teen Titans Go is a great option.

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Teen Titan Teen Titans Go is a great option, but I told Dylan I was like, like in the mood to watch Family Guy.

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I said, I just want to watch like a brain rot TV show.

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Like, I just want to laugh with you.

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I want to, I just want to watch it like we're on the couch watching it.

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And he goes, Well, if you're just gonna put on Family Guy, I'm just gonna sit over here and watch basketball.

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Like, I thought you wanted to watch a movie.

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I said, That's a crazy choice.

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I hope it was worth it.

00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:04.159
That's wild.

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Anywho, then I turned off the TV.

00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:10.639
I turned on Jurassic, uh, Jurassic World Rebirth last night.

00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:16.960
I have it on DVD now, so threw that in the old Xbox and played it while I was cleaning.

00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:18.399
Yeah, it's a great movie.

00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:19.279
I love that movie.

00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:24.720
Um so do we want to first off?

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Did you see the Pokemon Lego announcement?

00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:34.639
Yes, question mark.

00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:37.759
These Lego sets look so good.

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I'm sure they're sold out everywhere.

00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:50.879
Oh, I'm sure they're also way out of my price budget, but they have the starters um evolutions.

00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:58.559
So Blastoise, Venusaur, Charizard, and they they go, they come on this setup and they they're like on a stand.

00:16:59.039 --> 00:17:00.320
Yeah, I'm sorry.

00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:05.359
I just looked at eBay, someone bought it and is reselling it for eight hundred dollars.

00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:07.519
That's not even that bad.

00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:09.680
Do you know how much it costs?

00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:11.759
$700.

00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:15.519
They're only making a hundred bucks.

00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:18.240
Dude, what?

00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:21.680
Um, so I mean it looks awesome.

00:17:21.839 --> 00:17:26.000
It does, it looks incredible, but it's again, it's way out of my price budget.

00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:31.440
I am I'm not a Lego collector per se.

00:17:31.680 --> 00:17:39.200
Yeah, I have a lot of hobbies and I have Legos, but I have like five sets of Legos still in the box.

00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:43.759
I still have the the Pokedex that you got me still in my Pokedex, yeah.

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I think for my birthday, but it's it's still in the box.

00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:54.400
And then like Lindsay got me a Jurassic World Lego set that is like a little tiny dinosaur still in the box.

00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:58.640
Um, yeah, I just I don't have anywhere to display them.

00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:04.319
As you can see behind me, I have literally like look at that.

00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:08.559
It's literally insane how many Paw Fungos that I have.

00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:17.359
Um, so I yeah, I just do not have the uh the space per se.

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Yeah.

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So they're sitting in boxes.

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Um, and I mean they look really cool.

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I really like the Eevee one.

00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:29.440
I think that one's the Eeve ones are really cute.

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Yeah, it's the most affordable, it's like 50 bucks.

00:18:32.400 --> 00:18:38.799
Yeah, uh, but hopefully they have some new sets coming out that'll be a little more priced in my life.

00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:42.559
Yeah, even like mini set, like why aren't they like little sets?

00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:44.559
Like they're crazy looking sets.

00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:48.240
Well, so the those ones are for adults, says right on 18 plus.

00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:55.359
Um, but I think they're gonna have some for kids that are small that'll be smaller and more affordable.

00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:57.279
Yeah, like 25, 30 bucks.

00:18:57.519 --> 00:18:58.160
Yeah.

00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:06.319
Um, so anyways, Pokemon is celebrating 30 years this year, Taylor.

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On February 27th, I believe.

00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:11.839
That's crazy.

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I believe.

00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:13.839
Hold on, let me faster.

00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:15.440
Are you 31 or something?

00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:16.960
I am 31.

00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:18.319
That's crazy.

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February 27th, yep.

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How does that mean out in 1996 in Japan?

00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:30.640
How does it look like I feel to be older than Pokemon?

00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:32.160
Just barely.

00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:34.160
Yeah, but you still are.

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I think about that with Google.

00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:38.559
Like, I'm older than Google.

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Yeah, I'm a lot older than Google.

00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:47.279
But like sometimes I think about that and I'm like, I'm gonna have to tell my kids that like I'm I'm older than the internet.

00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:50.400
How's that?

00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:57.279
How are those fossil fuels for ya?

00:19:58.480 --> 00:19:59.680
That's crazy, dude.

00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:08.799
But yeah, nineteen ninety-six red and green came out in Japan, and then I believe in nineteen ninety-eight they came out in the US.

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And it was red and blue.

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Uh I played red, I played gold, silver, crystal, um, and then every other game moving forward.

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I've never played blue, if if you can believe it.

00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:25.279
Yep.

00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:33.039
Um, but we're we're very, very excited to celebrate 30 years.

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If is there anything that have we already talked about this?

00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:44.559
Is there anything that you're like looking forward to as far as like what they could release this year?

00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:49.920
Well, not this year, but just the one for the Switch, the new one.

00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:53.839
The Pocopia, yeah, the Animal Crossing.

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Yeah.

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Or like I would love an update on Scarlet or like even an update on ZA.

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I just want more Pokemon.

00:21:30.490 --> 00:21:33.769
Yeah, I don't see that happening, honestly.

00:21:34.009 --> 00:21:37.690
Um, what what I would like to see happen this year.

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Everyone has said this, but I'm gonna say it because I do.

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I would like to see this happen.

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What I would like to see happen this year is Pokey.

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They they're the fans call it Pokemon Classic.

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I think that that's a great idea.

00:21:54.650 --> 00:21:55.769
I think they should do this.

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Basically, the idea of like they would have Pokemon Classic red and then Pokemon Classic Blue, and it would be$60.

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And if you bought red, it would come with like red, silver, um, ruby, uh, diamond, heart gold, you know, like all of the one version of all those classics, and then you would buy the blue version, you'd get the opposite of all of those classics.

00:22:25.769 --> 00:22:36.090
And then they could do another version, and it'd be the yellow version, and it would have like emerald and yellow and uh what was the other one?

00:22:36.250 --> 00:22:38.090
Platinum, you know, all of those classics.

00:22:38.569 --> 00:22:42.650
I would like to see something like that, but I don't know, I don't know if it's gonna happen.

00:22:42.730 --> 00:22:43.210
I really don't.

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If it doesn't happen this year, it's never gonna happen.

00:22:45.690 --> 00:22:49.130
Yeah, but they should listen to fans more.

00:22:49.690 --> 00:22:55.210
Speaking of fans, let's jump into some of these great segues.

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Uh first fan question: how did the hook and bridge podcast actually start and who had the original idea?

00:23:06.170 --> 00:23:08.569
Um, do you want me to answer?

00:23:08.730 --> 00:23:09.930
Yeah, you go ahead.

00:23:10.170 --> 00:23:14.890
So I don't remember how it first like came about, but I know that you had the idea.

00:23:14.970 --> 00:23:15.930
Obviously, it's your show.

00:23:16.009 --> 00:23:16.650
You had the idea.

00:23:16.730 --> 00:23:18.009
I helped come up with a name.

00:23:18.090 --> 00:23:28.730
If anyone cares, um anywho, so you came up with the idea, I came up with a name, and then our whole our whole brand was to get AJR on.

00:23:28.890 --> 00:23:30.170
Like, and that still is.

00:23:30.330 --> 00:23:32.170
Once they're on the show, we're done, guys.

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Shows it, shows that is true.

00:23:34.170 --> 00:23:35.210
That's our end goal.

00:23:35.370 --> 00:23:43.850
This this whole thing, and we've had a so much fun, but the whole thing is to get to meet AJR on this camera.

00:23:44.410 --> 00:23:48.410
Honestly, we already got Scott Lacey on it, so we can be done.

00:23:48.650 --> 00:23:51.289
Um that is true, though.

00:23:51.370 --> 00:23:52.330
That that is the rule.

00:23:52.410 --> 00:23:58.890
If AJR ever comes on this show, yeah, not if when yeah, yeah, that is the final episode of this show.

00:23:59.049 --> 00:24:02.970
We will be done from that'll be our sign-off.

00:24:03.289 --> 00:24:10.410
Literally now, granted, we may record that show and then I save it, you know, for a year or so.

00:24:10.730 --> 00:24:11.450
That's crazy.

00:24:11.610 --> 00:24:13.210
No, I think you should go live.

00:24:13.769 --> 00:24:15.450
Just do it live, just end the show right then.

00:24:16.730 --> 00:24:16.970
See ya.

00:24:17.370 --> 00:24:18.809
It was nice knowing you.

00:24:19.130 --> 00:24:21.930
Um, you actually weren't the original co-host.

00:24:22.650 --> 00:24:23.610
I was not.

00:24:24.009 --> 00:24:26.009
Yeah, it was Chris Yurabi.

00:24:26.730 --> 00:24:27.450
Urabi.

00:24:27.690 --> 00:24:28.569
I forgot about that.

00:24:28.809 --> 00:24:29.130
Yeah.

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I'm a sad dude.

00:24:30.890 --> 00:24:32.410
No, he's burying the storm well.

00:24:32.890 --> 00:24:33.529
I think so.

00:24:33.690 --> 00:24:34.809
I think he's doing well.

00:24:35.049 --> 00:24:35.529
Good.

00:24:35.769 --> 00:24:42.009
Um, what was the very first episode like behind the scenes that listeners never got to hear?

00:24:43.049 --> 00:24:45.690
I can't even remember the episode we did last week.

00:24:46.410 --> 00:24:48.330
Don't ask me anything about episodes.

00:24:48.410 --> 00:24:48.970
I don't know.

00:24:49.049 --> 00:24:50.250
I know it was a mess.

00:24:50.490 --> 00:24:58.090
I know when you go back to like our earlier things, like I mean, granted, it took us two years to actually get a structure down because we both have ADHD.

00:24:58.410 --> 00:25:00.250
Um we still don't really have a structure.

00:25:00.650 --> 00:25:02.490
We still know, but we're better at it now.

00:25:02.569 --> 00:25:03.289
Do you know what I mean?

00:25:03.450 --> 00:25:11.769
Like, some sometimes if I've used my brain all day and then I come on the show, like I can feel myself being annoying, and I'm like, oh, this is everywhere.

00:25:12.090 --> 00:25:16.410
Um, which my bad, maybe I should be medicated or something.

00:25:16.569 --> 00:25:21.610
Uh, but I do remember it being a hot mess, not in a bad way, like we were learning.

00:25:21.690 --> 00:25:23.450
It was really short too, wasn't it?

00:25:23.769 --> 00:25:27.769
It was uh with your band director, Matthew Newman.

00:25:29.210 --> 00:25:33.289
I was thinking yeah, I don't think that that episode is available anymore.

00:25:33.370 --> 00:25:34.970
I I did pull that one down.

00:25:35.049 --> 00:25:36.890
Um, I pulled down a handful of episodes.

00:25:36.970 --> 00:25:41.529
And honestly, if you're listening to this, I'm probably gonna be doing that again here soon.

00:25:41.850 --> 00:25:42.250
You should.

00:25:42.410 --> 00:25:43.529
I was I was thinking about that earlier.

00:25:44.490 --> 00:25:46.090
Yeah, because I'm a different person now.

00:25:46.170 --> 00:25:48.490
I don't like what I said in some of those, so I think we should just pull them.

00:25:48.890 --> 00:25:53.210
Well, and the show is just a different show, like the structure, the format, everything completely different.

00:25:53.450 --> 00:25:53.769
I agree.

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And I I feel it's a disservice to the fans if somebody's brand new.

00:25:57.610 --> 00:25:59.370
Shout out to all of our new listeners, by the way.

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I I see all of you.

00:26:00.970 --> 00:26:03.289
Um think thank you for the support.

00:26:03.450 --> 00:26:11.529
And uh yeah, it's one of those things where like it just doesn't, it's not a good representation of what the show is.

00:26:12.250 --> 00:26:14.890
So that'll probably be happening soon.

00:26:15.049 --> 00:26:21.049
Um, yeah, have you ever had a guest totally surprise you in a good or bad way?

00:26:23.130 --> 00:26:24.650
Yeah, yeah.

00:26:26.090 --> 00:26:30.490
Mine is um, I can't remember his name, but he showed us his nipples.

00:26:31.130 --> 00:26:32.330
Oh, Jason Page.

00:26:32.490 --> 00:26:33.769
Jason Page, I knew it was Page.

00:26:34.009 --> 00:26:43.130
Speaking of Pokemon, Jason Page, the original lead singer for the uh the original singer and uh recording artist of the first Pokemon.

00:26:43.610 --> 00:26:45.289
Crazy that they did him dirty on that.

00:26:45.450 --> 00:26:46.970
He could have made so much more money.

00:26:47.130 --> 00:26:47.930
That's wild.

00:26:48.170 --> 00:26:49.769
Anywho, we won't get into that.

00:26:49.930 --> 00:26:52.970
Um, yeah, he showed us his nipples, so it's a great interview though.

00:26:53.049 --> 00:26:54.090
If you're listening, go check it out.

00:26:54.410 --> 00:26:54.970
It really is.

00:26:55.130 --> 00:26:56.250
It really is.

00:26:56.650 --> 00:27:14.170
It was so good that his mom, this man's mother, commented and thanked us for truly interviewing him and outlining his life and career, yeah, rather than focusing on his experience with Pokemon.

00:27:14.410 --> 00:27:16.490
Yeah, because he he's an interesting guy.

00:27:16.650 --> 00:27:19.930
Yeah, like if you're thinking that episode's just about Pokemon, it is not.

00:27:20.170 --> 00:27:23.049
This guy is a walking living legend.

00:27:23.370 --> 00:27:24.410
Literally, he's crazy.

00:27:24.569 --> 00:27:27.690
And he does some impressions, he does some of his jingles, like it's really good.

00:27:28.569 --> 00:27:35.289
Um there are definitely a handful of artists that have not only surprised me but disappointed me.

00:27:35.690 --> 00:27:36.170
I don't know.

00:27:36.410 --> 00:27:36.730
I don't know.

00:27:37.049 --> 00:27:38.090
We're not gonna get into that.

00:27:38.250 --> 00:27:41.930
I was gonna say, are we at a point in our career where we can get that out there?

00:27:42.250 --> 00:27:42.970
No, we are not.

00:27:43.130 --> 00:27:44.890
No, okay, no, we are not.

00:27:45.130 --> 00:27:47.930
Um, especially not if we want AJR on, but I agree.

00:27:48.330 --> 00:27:48.730
I agree.

00:27:49.370 --> 00:27:52.890
If you know me personally, feel free to ask.

00:27:52.970 --> 00:27:53.610
I will tell you in.

00:27:54.250 --> 00:27:56.090
Yeah, feel free for a phone call.

00:27:56.330 --> 00:27:58.250
Um, no, I agree.

00:27:58.330 --> 00:28:04.250
We've had some where we have gotten off, and I've been like they were jerks, like they were awful.

00:28:04.569 --> 00:28:07.130
Um, it felt like they were doing us a service.

00:28:07.289 --> 00:28:08.009
Do you know what I mean?

00:28:08.090 --> 00:28:12.170
And I'm like, I truly couldn't care less if you were on the show or not.

00:28:12.330 --> 00:28:16.569
Um, because I'm also the type of person I don't know what musicians look like.

00:28:16.730 --> 00:28:23.930
I mean the big ones, obviously, but like if you're in a band, I'm not gonna pick you out of a crowd.

00:28:24.250 --> 00:28:28.650
This has actually come up recently on our YouTube page.

00:28:28.890 --> 00:28:34.970
Okay, shout out to all of the people who comment on our YouTube videos.

00:28:35.130 --> 00:28:36.730
Yeah, even you negative ones.

00:28:36.809 --> 00:28:41.130
I I also see you and I comment back to each and every one of you.

00:28:41.370 --> 00:28:43.529
Uh yeah, Taylor does not look at any of that stuff.

00:28:43.850 --> 00:28:47.450
Literally, if you are talking to someone from this show, it is me.

00:28:47.690 --> 00:28:48.330
Yeah.

00:28:49.370 --> 00:28:54.250
I recently got called um self-centered.

00:28:54.650 --> 00:28:59.930
Um, I also got told that I do the bare minimum research.

00:29:00.410 --> 00:29:09.769
Um, that uh I come up with very generic questions that I don't know much about music, and most of these things are true.

00:29:10.410 --> 00:29:13.690
But hang on the self-centered thing that's crazy.

00:29:14.090 --> 00:29:19.049
I I am I am quite literally the opposite of self-centered.

00:29:19.289 --> 00:29:22.170
I will go out of my way to help others.

00:29:22.569 --> 00:29:28.970
I feel like no, it's not even like you're putting on front, like neither of us are putting on a front on this show.

00:29:29.130 --> 00:29:32.809
I will say you try to be more funny, but not in a bad way.

00:29:33.289 --> 00:29:35.690
But that's wild that they would say that.

00:29:35.769 --> 00:29:36.250
That's crazy.

00:29:36.410 --> 00:29:51.450
Also, the research part in the beginning, I will say you researched hard, but since then you have a different job, more hours, you have moved, you have an entire nother human being that you're taking care of.

00:29:51.690 --> 00:29:56.330
Like, yeah, if you're doing the bare minimum, it's because you have a life outside of this.

00:29:56.650 --> 00:29:57.210
Yeah, yeah.

00:29:57.370 --> 00:29:58.730
Well, this is like that's not even fair.

00:29:59.049 --> 00:30:06.569
This was into response uh with our interview um from earlier in our in our earlier days.

00:30:06.809 --> 00:30:08.970
Um, people still listen to it.

00:30:09.130 --> 00:30:13.289
Uh the person that we had on was an incredible guest.

00:30:13.529 --> 00:30:18.170
Um I don't want to bring too much light to it, but uh he was he was an incredible guest.

00:30:18.250 --> 00:30:27.610
And part of part of my comment to these people uh was you can say all of this at the end of the day, it is my show.

00:30:27.930 --> 00:30:34.009
I do direct the conversation, so that's where the self-centered part I think is coming from.

00:30:34.890 --> 00:30:46.730
Kind of controlling the situation, but like sometimes sometimes a guest will kind of just ramble on, or even you can just ramble on sometimes and have to gear it back in all the time.

00:30:47.610 --> 00:31:03.529
But the biggest thing that sucks in this one in particular is the guest is an avid listener of this show now, and has several times emailed us to just to ask how we're doing, check in, comment on episodes.

00:31:03.769 --> 00:31:08.490
Um, he's a fantastic guy, and he wants to come back on the show.

00:31:08.730 --> 00:31:15.130
And like comments like that, you you think for one minute I didn't send that to him immediately?

00:31:15.450 --> 00:31:24.090
Like, I get it, you're a super fan of the band, but like you have to understand that we are real people, and so is we are real people, yeah.

00:31:24.410 --> 00:31:31.529
He had a great time on that show, so I don't know what to tell you to all of those negative comments.

00:31:31.769 --> 00:31:33.610
I'm trying to think of who it is.

00:31:34.250 --> 00:31:36.170
I'll tell I'll tell you after the show.

00:31:36.490 --> 00:31:37.049
That's fine.

00:31:37.130 --> 00:31:37.930
Well, you can tell me.

00:31:38.009 --> 00:31:39.130
I'm still not gonna know.

00:31:39.450 --> 00:31:41.370
You will, you will, you'll remember him.

00:31:41.610 --> 00:31:42.890
Okay, you'll definitely remember him.

00:31:43.289 --> 00:31:49.769
Well, I have like a handful of people in mind of who it could be, but um oh wait, no, I think I know who it is.

00:31:49.850 --> 00:31:51.049
You don't have to tell me.

00:31:51.450 --> 00:31:52.410
Um, anywho.

00:31:53.049 --> 00:31:58.490
What's one episode you think didn't get enough love that fans should go back and listen to?

00:31:58.809 --> 00:31:59.769
That's a good question.

00:32:00.809 --> 00:32:01.450
Todd Pipes.

00:32:01.769 --> 00:32:04.170
Todd Pipes, Todd Pipes.

00:32:04.650 --> 00:32:08.490
Honestly, uh I have a I have a handful.

00:32:08.809 --> 00:32:12.410
Like there are a handful of incredible interviews that we've had.

00:32:12.569 --> 00:32:13.210
Yeah.

00:32:13.529 --> 00:32:22.970
That because of us interviewing bands that are starting their careers, they don't get the appreciation that they deserve.

00:32:23.289 --> 00:32:27.450
Um, just happy to be here is obviously a big one for me.

00:32:27.690 --> 00:32:31.210
Uh, I think that interview went absolutely incredible.

00:32:31.370 --> 00:32:34.410
It was a group of friends having a conversation.

00:32:35.130 --> 00:32:40.730
Um, another big one that stands out to me is uh the Ohio Weather Band.

00:32:41.289 --> 00:32:46.490
That's a band that I just truly love, and I think more people should hear their songs.

00:32:46.809 --> 00:32:47.450
Yeah.

00:32:48.410 --> 00:33:00.009
Um another big one though, like as far as like an artist that we've had on and and went a complete deep dive on, Men Without Hats.

00:33:00.890 --> 00:33:01.370
Ivan.

00:33:01.930 --> 00:33:08.090
Yes, that's one of those shows that like he's a legend in the industry, yeah.

00:33:08.490 --> 00:33:12.170
And I feel like that's one that people should definitely go back and check out.

00:33:12.410 --> 00:33:13.529
Do you do you remember?

00:33:13.610 --> 00:33:14.730
I don't know if you pulled it or not.

00:33:14.809 --> 00:33:17.049
Do you remember our friend from Ireland?

00:33:17.450 --> 00:33:18.330
Oh, Sonny Greenwich.

00:33:18.650 --> 00:33:20.730
Scotland, yeah, Sonny Greenwich.

00:33:21.130 --> 00:33:22.250
I was thinking about him the other day.

00:33:22.330 --> 00:33:23.289
I hope he's doing well.

00:33:23.529 --> 00:33:25.610
Oh, he is, he's living a great life.

00:33:25.850 --> 00:33:32.890
Um I haven't pulled that episode, but that is one that I probably will pull because it just it's not the same structure as the rest of the show.

00:33:33.130 --> 00:33:34.170
No, I agree.

00:33:34.569 --> 00:33:39.850
Um yeah, no, I can go on and on with yeah, there's so many.

00:33:40.090 --> 00:33:41.049
So many.

00:33:41.529 --> 00:33:46.970
Honestly, I can even tell you there are a handful that uh are overrated.

00:33:47.289 --> 00:33:52.490
I think that our interview with TX2 gets too much love.

00:33:53.289 --> 00:33:53.930
Yeah.

00:33:54.410 --> 00:33:57.769
Like well, it's also like like that fan base, you know what I mean?

00:33:57.850 --> 00:34:03.289
Because they are doing their own deep dive for people they're obsessed with.

00:34:03.610 --> 00:34:10.409
Our episode with Drowning Pool that me and Lindsay interviewed Drowning Pool, that one is our most popular episode ever.

00:34:10.730 --> 00:34:12.250
Um that makes sense.

00:34:12.489 --> 00:34:14.730
If I could, I would like to redo that.

00:34:14.809 --> 00:34:22.250
Uh, I would definitely like to interview Drowning Pool again, uh, just because that was one of our first ever interviews.

00:34:22.809 --> 00:34:32.329
And I know far more and and I do a lot better job at interviewing people now compared to then.

00:34:32.489 --> 00:34:35.049
So I would like to redo that at some point.

00:34:35.369 --> 00:34:35.929
Yeah.

00:34:36.169 --> 00:34:36.809
Yeah.

00:34:37.609 --> 00:34:39.369
Uh let's see here.

00:34:40.889 --> 00:34:41.449
Hmm.

00:34:41.689 --> 00:34:46.089
Number five, we already kind of went over who is your ultimate dream guest.

00:34:46.250 --> 00:34:47.449
We kind of already did that.

00:34:47.929 --> 00:34:49.129
We did yours.

00:34:49.929 --> 00:34:50.809
Oh, okay.

00:34:50.969 --> 00:34:51.210
Sorry.

00:34:51.449 --> 00:34:52.569
Do you have a different one?

00:34:56.089 --> 00:34:56.730
Yes.

00:35:02.489 --> 00:35:02.889
I have two.

00:35:03.289 --> 00:35:03.849
Kanye.

00:35:04.649 --> 00:35:05.369
That's crazy.

00:35:05.529 --> 00:35:06.489
I have two.

00:35:07.769 --> 00:35:11.849
Um one, Sabrina Carpenter, Ovi.

00:35:13.210 --> 00:35:13.609
Obi.

00:35:14.649 --> 00:35:16.329
The other one, Khaled.

00:35:17.609 --> 00:35:22.089
Oh, you know, I think I think those are two great interviews.

00:35:22.250 --> 00:35:24.329
I think that would be an absolute blast.

00:35:24.489 --> 00:35:25.049
I really do.

00:35:25.289 --> 00:35:26.250
Especially Khaled.

00:35:26.649 --> 00:35:27.529
Khaled would be great.

00:35:27.609 --> 00:35:32.569
I haven't seen many interviews with him, but any interview with Sabrina, like, say what you want about her.

00:35:32.730 --> 00:35:33.769
She's funny.

00:35:34.009 --> 00:35:37.210
If you watch her interviews, she cracks me up.

00:35:37.369 --> 00:35:38.809
She's so unserious.

00:35:39.129 --> 00:35:43.529
I have been very vocal about how I feel about Sabrina Carpenter.

00:35:44.089 --> 00:35:44.809
And it's not bad.

00:35:45.129 --> 00:35:46.969
I was gonna say it's not negative at all.

00:35:47.129 --> 00:35:50.489
I mean, no, I guess you could technically say it's negative.

00:35:50.809 --> 00:35:51.609
No, I don't think so.

00:35:51.929 --> 00:35:57.929
I've I've been heavily cr uh uh uh I want to say criticized critiquing.

00:35:58.569 --> 00:36:04.649
Critiquing, but there's a word uh I've had heavy criticism of her music.

00:36:05.049 --> 00:36:07.369
Well, but but that's because you know she can do more.

00:36:07.529 --> 00:36:10.250
It's not that you think it comes from a place of encouragement.

00:36:10.489 --> 00:36:12.089
Yeah, you just know her potential.

00:36:13.129 --> 00:36:14.569
Anywho, no, I think she'd be great.

00:36:14.649 --> 00:36:15.929
I think she'd be a lot of fun.

00:36:16.250 --> 00:36:21.369
Um, what is the funniest moment that happened off mic?

00:36:23.289 --> 00:36:24.569
Ah, we have a lot of.

00:36:24.809 --> 00:36:25.689
Justin Bleeber.

00:36:26.169 --> 00:36:27.369
Ooh, that's a good one.

00:36:27.849 --> 00:36:31.689
When it like this and the story behind that, we gotta bring him back.

00:36:32.009 --> 00:36:44.889
The story behind that is it was late at night and we were delirious, delirious, and we're we're trying to like pump out a show, and I had on sweatpants, and I don't know who said it.

00:36:44.969 --> 00:36:48.969
I had on my sweatpants and my sweatshirt, but someone said you look like Justin Bieber, and I said, Let's run with it.

00:36:49.129 --> 00:36:50.329
I could start going like this.

00:36:50.489 --> 00:36:53.449
I said, Let's run with it, let's run with it.

00:36:54.009 --> 00:36:55.689
Yeah, I remember that.

00:36:56.489 --> 00:36:58.089
That was really funny.

00:36:58.409 --> 00:37:00.969
Um, I'm trying to think of another one.

00:37:01.210 --> 00:37:09.929
Um, honestly, I can't think of it like names, but a lot of times what you guys don't see is when we stop recording, guests are still on.

00:37:10.329 --> 00:37:18.169
Yeah, and like we will that happens all the time, and we will just chat and laugh and have like, you know, because there's no stakes.

00:37:18.250 --> 00:37:24.730
Like, like we're not out here to out anybody on like what they say if it's not being recorded, because that's messed up.

00:37:24.809 --> 00:37:25.689
Like, we're not those types of people.

00:37:25.929 --> 00:37:26.809
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:37:27.210 --> 00:37:31.449
Um, but like it's just so funny, like they're so funny.

00:37:31.689 --> 00:37:34.089
Um so I think that's a good one.

00:37:34.169 --> 00:37:34.889
Do you have one?

00:37:35.129 --> 00:37:44.569
Uh, I was just thinking about like even with the Justin Bleber thing, we used to make in the early days some funny like short content.

00:37:44.809 --> 00:37:45.129
Yeah.

00:37:45.289 --> 00:37:49.049
That that like would be like normal stuff you'd see on like a TikTok or whatever.

00:37:49.210 --> 00:37:54.730
Yeah, like I I did uh I did the Eddie Vetter uh impression with with uh pizza.

00:37:54.969 --> 00:37:55.289
Yeah.

00:37:55.449 --> 00:37:59.449
Um, where you know what I might even be able to just pull it up real quick.

00:37:59.529 --> 00:38:00.489
Should we just watch it?

00:38:00.730 --> 00:38:02.169
Let's just watch it.

00:38:04.889 --> 00:38:07.449
Uh while I'm looking that up, Taylor.

00:38:07.689 --> 00:38:13.849
Um, do you ever argue about music opinions off of the show and who usually wins?

00:38:14.169 --> 00:38:15.929
No, only about Helen Keller.

00:38:17.529 --> 00:38:25.289
No, I think we really do argue about Helen Keller.

00:38:25.529 --> 00:38:29.049
We no, listen, guys, Harley thinks it's so serious, and I don't.

00:38:29.210 --> 00:38:30.730
I think that's what's really funny.

00:38:30.969 --> 00:38:48.409
Like, Harley is so so bent on me believing in what I believe that it's hilarious off camera to what like like there was a time where he just called me randomly and was like, I was just thinking about your beliefs on Helen Keller, and we have to talk about it.

00:38:48.730 --> 00:38:50.009
I'm like, that's crazy.

00:38:50.250 --> 00:38:52.250
I didn't think it was so serious.

00:38:52.489 --> 00:38:55.529
Um, but arguing, no, we don't really argue.

00:38:55.769 --> 00:38:57.210
No, we don't ever argue.

00:38:57.369 --> 00:39:07.129
I I think like we have discussions, but they're never we slightly argued recently about some money stuff, about our differences of opinions on on money.

00:39:07.449 --> 00:39:09.609
Yeah, we did, but you were wrong, and it's crazy.

00:39:10.089 --> 00:39:13.129
I also asked Dylan, and Dylan agreed that you were wrong.

00:39:13.289 --> 00:39:15.849
No, anywho, we're not gonna air that though.

00:39:15.929 --> 00:39:16.649
That is that's personal.

00:39:16.889 --> 00:39:18.089
No, no, no, no, no, definitely not.

00:39:18.329 --> 00:39:23.449
Um, but no, very seldom, and even then it's like not ever that deep.

00:39:23.529 --> 00:39:24.169
Do you know what I mean?

00:39:24.409 --> 00:39:24.969
No, yeah, yeah.

00:39:25.369 --> 00:39:38.489
Like, um, but we do get like we do have in-depth discussions, but honestly, it's either like I don't want to say either of us are set in our ways, you know what I mean?

00:39:38.569 --> 00:39:47.689
We can both be like, oh no, like I see where you're coming from, and and I even if if you don't necessarily agree with it, you're like, I can see where you're coming from with that, and like that's fine.

00:39:47.849 --> 00:39:49.929
Um specifically, music too.

00:39:50.009 --> 00:39:57.369
Like, I yeah, I am not one to argue with somebody over music because like uh who am I to tell you what you should and shouldn't like?

00:39:57.449 --> 00:39:58.329
I have my opinions.

00:39:58.409 --> 00:40:00.969
I I think some songs suck, but like that's okay.

00:40:01.129 --> 00:40:05.129
If that's your favorite song in the world, you that's yours and like yeah, yeah.

00:40:05.529 --> 00:40:09.449
I don't want anyone to ever feel like I'm judging you on your music ever.

00:40:09.689 --> 00:40:11.049
No, I would never do that.

00:40:11.289 --> 00:40:14.009
Um maybe your beliefs, but not your beliefs.

00:40:14.409 --> 00:40:18.809
Your beliefs on Hell and Keller, absolutely, but like your music choices, nah.

00:40:19.369 --> 00:40:21.449
Um, no, so I don't I don't think so.

00:40:21.609 --> 00:40:23.929
Very like I said, very seldom.

00:40:24.329 --> 00:40:27.289
I actually go out of my way to defend music a lot of times.

00:40:27.609 --> 00:40:35.929
Like anybody that like says like all this this sucks, like nickelback specifically, like yeah, I don't I'll never not defend nickelback.

00:40:36.169 --> 00:40:41.129
Um, that's because people who hate nickelback are fake, they're only doing it to to hop on a trend.

00:40:41.529 --> 00:40:44.329
All right, so this is an old YouTube short.

00:40:44.409 --> 00:40:52.329
This is from like 2020, I think, close to uh 2021, maybe.

00:40:52.569 --> 00:40:55.849
Um, this was my attempt at comedy.

00:40:55.929 --> 00:40:57.210
This is so bad.

00:40:57.369 --> 00:41:00.329
It says when your wife goes on vacation without you.

00:41:07.609 --> 00:41:08.089
That's it.

00:41:08.409 --> 00:41:10.009
No, dude, that's hilarious.

00:41:10.169 --> 00:41:12.329
That's so why is that not on TikTok?

00:41:12.409 --> 00:41:14.009
Throw that puppy on TikTok.

00:41:14.409 --> 00:41:16.969
That's should I just should I re-upload it?

00:41:17.210 --> 00:41:19.210
Yeah, dude, that's so funny.

00:41:19.449 --> 00:41:20.809
Are you kidding me?

00:41:24.009 --> 00:41:25.689
Oh man, that was a good time.

00:41:26.009 --> 00:41:27.289
That's so funny.

00:41:28.809 --> 00:41:32.569
That was my attempt at being a funny content creator.

00:41:32.809 --> 00:41:34.809
That was that's really funny.

00:41:37.210 --> 00:41:37.849
All right.

00:41:38.089 --> 00:41:39.929
Uh number.

00:41:41.689 --> 00:41:43.369
Sorry, I numbered all of these questions.

00:41:43.449 --> 00:41:45.449
I should have put people's names, but I didn't.

00:41:48.809 --> 00:41:56.169
Do you ever argue that what artist do you secretly love that would shock your audience?

00:41:57.449 --> 00:42:01.849
No, I'm really open about everything that I like, to be honest with you.

00:42:02.649 --> 00:42:03.449
So are you.

00:42:04.649 --> 00:42:10.730
I am, but like I think Chapel Rone is one that would shock people.

00:42:11.449 --> 00:42:14.169
Like, I don't talk about it very often.

00:42:14.409 --> 00:42:15.689
I don't talk about it very often.

00:42:15.849 --> 00:42:17.849
Let's get into one of those heated discussions.

00:42:19.289 --> 00:42:21.929
Um, yeah, but you only like like three songs.

00:42:22.009 --> 00:42:23.609
You just really like Pink Pony Club.

00:42:24.009 --> 00:42:25.049
I love that song.

00:42:25.289 --> 00:42:25.689
I love that.

00:42:28.409 --> 00:42:29.769
Let's see here.

00:42:30.089 --> 00:42:33.210
What's one question you're tired of being asked?

00:42:35.210 --> 00:42:37.049
I love to beat a dead horse.

00:42:37.369 --> 00:42:42.649
So that was a crazy thing to say.

00:42:42.889 --> 00:42:44.489
Well, you've never heard that?

00:42:44.809 --> 00:42:45.849
Beating a dead horse.

00:42:46.089 --> 00:42:49.769
I I have, but like I no one ever says I love doing it.

00:42:49.849 --> 00:42:52.889
They usually say you're beating a dead horse.

00:42:53.129 --> 00:42:55.849
No, I love beating a dead horse.

00:42:56.089 --> 00:42:58.569
It seems a little bit like a crime when you say it.

00:42:58.809 --> 00:43:02.169
I I you could ask me a thousand and one times.

00:43:02.250 --> 00:43:04.809
I'm going to tell you the same answer and we're going to talk about it.

00:43:05.609 --> 00:43:09.049
Um I can't think of anything like people.

00:43:12.089 --> 00:43:19.529
I get asked like from people who don't know music if we're a fishing podcast.

00:43:20.089 --> 00:43:23.129
That gets that gets asked a lot.

00:43:23.449 --> 00:43:24.969
That's really funny.

00:43:25.210 --> 00:43:28.569
Yes, that gets asked far more than you think in person.

00:43:28.730 --> 00:43:30.489
Um oh, sorry, go ahead.

00:43:30.649 --> 00:43:42.409
Uh, I was just gonna say like that question, or uh, I've been asked a million times who the biggest guest is that we've had on the show.

00:43:42.969 --> 00:43:45.210
And I'm like, that's impossible to answer.

00:43:45.529 --> 00:43:49.449
I in the beginning when we started it, I got asked a lot, can I get on your podcast?

00:43:49.609 --> 00:43:50.489
Can I be on your podcast?

00:43:50.569 --> 00:43:52.489
How do I get how do I get on your podcast?

00:43:52.649 --> 00:43:54.250
And I'm like, Are you a musician?

00:43:54.569 --> 00:43:54.809
No.

00:43:55.049 --> 00:43:56.809
Oh, well, then you're not getting on the podcast.

00:43:56.889 --> 00:43:57.210
Yeah, right.

00:43:59.049 --> 00:44:03.289
Actually, the only two non-musicians are Chris and I.

00:44:03.769 --> 00:44:06.169
Okay, like that's crazy.

00:44:07.289 --> 00:44:12.730
Um, anyways, yeah, no, I think that's the only one where I'm like, in the beginning.

00:44:13.689 --> 00:44:18.889
Oh, I do have to tell, I have to tell my Miss Janet, the one who fired me.

00:44:19.049 --> 00:44:21.129
I have to tell her that we interviewed the Clarks.

00:44:21.369 --> 00:44:21.929
Oh, yeah.

00:44:22.329 --> 00:44:23.929
I don't know, I gotta text her and tell her.

00:44:24.169 --> 00:44:28.969
Anywho, also looking back now, we probably should have had them on the podcast.

00:44:29.129 --> 00:44:31.609
We'd probably be a little bit further along.

00:44:32.089 --> 00:44:33.689
Just saying, you don't think?

00:44:33.929 --> 00:44:35.689
No, because I didn't like those people.

00:44:35.849 --> 00:44:38.409
Uh they weren't coming, they weren't coming here.

00:44:38.569 --> 00:44:39.769
Okay, we're not doing that.

00:44:40.649 --> 00:44:41.210
Or safe place.

00:44:41.609 --> 00:44:43.449
They can't tarnish that.

00:44:43.689 --> 00:44:56.889
Um, I, sorry, this is not a question, but at my job, my he's not a boss, but he's like in charge of some things, and and I was, you know, training with him.

00:44:57.289 --> 00:45:04.329
And he, I was he was making these little videos for me to listen to, and he was like, Hey, this is my first time doing this, so you let me know.

00:45:04.409 --> 00:45:05.049
You know what I mean?

00:45:05.210 --> 00:45:06.169
Like how it works and everything.

00:45:06.329 --> 00:45:07.129
And I'm like, it's great.

00:45:07.210 --> 00:45:12.169
And they were only like two minutes, so like perfect for I feel like that's a perfect training section of a video.

00:45:12.329 --> 00:45:16.649
Don't give me a 10-minute long training video, two minutes perfect.

00:45:16.889 --> 00:45:18.009
So I'm like, Yeah, it's great.

00:45:18.169 --> 00:45:19.449
Like everything was really explained.

00:45:19.529 --> 00:45:20.329
Like you you did really well.

00:45:20.489 --> 00:45:22.009
He goes, Yeah, I did them all in like one take.

00:45:22.169 --> 00:45:24.089
Like, I did it 15 minutes before you got here.

00:45:24.169 --> 00:45:25.129
And like, that's great.

00:45:25.210 --> 00:45:26.730
And he goes, Yeah, it's because my podcast.

00:45:26.809 --> 00:45:29.849
And I said, Whoa, I'm getting there, I'm getting there.

00:45:29.929 --> 00:45:32.329
I said, Podcast, tell me more.

00:45:32.969 --> 00:45:35.769
I and I do tell people about our podcast.

00:45:35.929 --> 00:45:38.009
I don't want anything, I don't want this to get twisted.

00:45:38.089 --> 00:45:42.250
I do like I I am proud of our podcast, I do tell people about our podcast.

00:45:42.489 --> 00:45:48.250
However, his podcast was very Christian focused.

00:45:49.369 --> 00:45:52.009
Holy general, we're a good Christian show.

00:45:52.409 --> 00:45:53.529
Truly, truly.

00:45:53.609 --> 00:45:56.250
I was like, right now's a great time, and I went to say it.

00:45:56.409 --> 00:45:57.689
And then his is really cool.

00:45:57.849 --> 00:45:59.449
His is for for his grandson.

00:45:59.609 --> 00:46:04.089
So like his grandson will have something to look back on whenever he inevitably passes, you know what I mean?

00:46:04.169 --> 00:46:08.089
And and anyway, it was a beautiful story.

00:46:08.250 --> 00:46:10.169
But he does, it's called Letters to Isaiah.

00:46:10.250 --> 00:46:12.009
His his grandson's name is Isaiah.

00:46:12.169 --> 00:46:13.849
Hey, shout out letters to Isaiah.

00:46:13.929 --> 00:46:16.569
Go well, that's that's not that's not the name of the podcast.

00:46:16.730 --> 00:46:18.809
Well, it might be, but like that's what he calls it.

00:46:18.889 --> 00:46:22.569
Like, there's a name, and then it's like letters to Isaiah, but I can't remember the name.

00:46:22.730 --> 00:46:25.689
Anywho, he's telling me about it, and I'm like, dude, this is so cool.

00:46:25.769 --> 00:46:26.569
Like, I would listen.

00:46:26.730 --> 00:46:29.449
I I love the Bible.

00:46:29.689 --> 00:46:36.730
I went to go say it, and then I instantly thought back of all the crazy things that we have said, and I'm like, I just started working here.

00:46:37.769 --> 00:46:38.809
I'm sorry, buddy.

00:46:38.889 --> 00:46:40.409
I didn't I didn't tell him about it.

00:46:40.569 --> 00:46:45.210
I didn't, I was like, I just don't know.

00:46:45.449 --> 00:46:46.569
I just don't know.

00:46:46.809 --> 00:46:47.609
I understand.

00:46:47.769 --> 00:46:53.049
I didn't tell anybody at work about the podcast until I had been there like two or three months.

00:46:53.369 --> 00:46:53.769
Yeah.

00:46:53.929 --> 00:46:54.730
Um, yeah.

00:46:54.969 --> 00:46:57.449
And the first person I told was Chris.

00:46:57.609 --> 00:46:57.849
Yeah.

00:46:58.250 --> 00:47:00.569
And then I didn't really tell anybody for a while.

00:47:00.730 --> 00:47:01.049
Yeah.

00:47:01.289 --> 00:47:04.569
And then like people started to just find out.

00:47:05.369 --> 00:47:11.449
Well, well, and it was like I was going to tell him until I thought about it.

00:47:11.609 --> 00:47:15.609
And I was like, We have two different podcasts, my guy.

00:47:16.489 --> 00:47:19.849
I mean, he probably wouldn't be a well, he might be a fan of ours.

00:47:20.009 --> 00:47:20.409
You never know.

00:47:20.649 --> 00:47:21.689
Maybe I you're right.

00:47:21.769 --> 00:47:22.489
I I never know.

00:47:22.569 --> 00:47:23.929
But I think that's regardless.

00:47:24.089 --> 00:47:27.769
We should absolutely you should absolutely find out the name of his show, and we should absolutely shout it out.

00:47:28.169 --> 00:47:28.969
Shout out, yeah.

00:47:29.129 --> 00:47:30.730
And he's a really sweet guy.

00:47:30.969 --> 00:47:36.169
Um anywho, I also didn't tell the people at Starbucks about it because I complained about them a lot.

00:47:36.250 --> 00:47:37.929
Not them, but like Starbucks as a company.

00:47:38.089 --> 00:47:39.210
Yeah, probably a smart move.

00:47:39.289 --> 00:47:41.049
That's that one, probably a smart move.

00:47:41.289 --> 00:47:42.250
Well, it was a smart move.

00:47:42.409 --> 00:47:44.089
Anywho, more questions, these are fun.

00:47:44.250 --> 00:47:47.929
Um, so now we're moving into some more personal ones.

00:47:48.169 --> 00:47:50.409
Oh, I thought you were gonna say the the game thing.

00:47:50.649 --> 00:47:52.250
No, I think we're not gonna do that.

00:47:52.409 --> 00:47:52.969
Okay, sorry.

00:47:53.689 --> 00:47:53.929
This is great.

00:47:54.250 --> 00:47:54.569
That's all right.

00:47:54.649 --> 00:47:55.049
This is good.

00:47:55.210 --> 00:47:56.250
I like feeling interviewed.

00:47:56.329 --> 00:47:58.169
Can we do a podcast where you interview me?

00:47:58.409 --> 00:47:59.449
I would love to.

00:47:59.769 --> 00:48:00.089
Okay.

00:48:00.969 --> 00:48:02.969
Um, we should absolutely do that.

00:48:03.049 --> 00:48:04.809
We should do, oh, we should do that.

00:48:04.969 --> 00:48:12.889
You do one where you interview me, I do one where I interview you, and then we both interview Chris, and then we both interview Chris, but like an interrogation.

00:48:13.289 --> 00:48:17.769
But we come in and we both wear suits and we do it like a job interview.

00:48:18.089 --> 00:48:18.730
Yes.

00:48:18.969 --> 00:48:19.849
Oh, I like this.

00:48:20.329 --> 00:48:21.289
Okay, okay.

00:48:21.929 --> 00:48:26.089
Uh, which host is most likely to derail the show?

00:48:26.489 --> 00:48:27.689
Absolutely you.

00:48:28.009 --> 00:48:28.889
Absolutely me.

00:48:29.129 --> 00:48:31.049
I love a derailment, honestly.

00:48:31.210 --> 00:48:31.769
I do.

00:48:32.489 --> 00:48:34.969
And it's just, and it's not even just for the show, it's me.

00:48:38.409 --> 00:48:39.769
I was a big fan.

00:48:39.929 --> 00:48:44.649
Um, no, so so I um just in personal life too.

00:48:44.969 --> 00:48:48.169
My brain, this is McKenna and I were actually talking about this.

00:48:48.250 --> 00:48:49.769
Here, here we go with derailing.

00:48:49.929 --> 00:48:51.609
Um also, McKenna.

00:48:51.769 --> 00:49:02.649
If you actually are a fan of this show and listen like you claim that you are, it's pretty crazy that you were like, Yeah, I'll do this thing for the show and be a person.

00:49:03.129 --> 00:49:04.089
Leave my girl alone.

00:49:04.250 --> 00:49:05.449
Leave her alone right now.

00:49:05.689 --> 00:49:08.250
You just didn't bully her.

00:49:08.409 --> 00:49:11.369
She is just a girl and she's having a hard time.

00:49:11.529 --> 00:49:13.849
Leave her alone right now.

00:49:14.169 --> 00:49:15.689
Let's see if she listens.

00:49:16.009 --> 00:49:18.969
Anywho, I don't believe it anymore.

00:49:19.609 --> 00:49:21.609
You know who does listen weekly?

00:49:22.329 --> 00:49:22.809
Who?

00:49:23.369 --> 00:49:26.730
Prima loan weekly, all the time.

00:49:26.889 --> 00:49:29.289
She's she literally texted me the other day about the show.

00:49:29.609 --> 00:49:30.329
I love that.

00:49:30.649 --> 00:49:32.409
Yeah, um, I do have to send her a link.

00:49:32.489 --> 00:49:34.009
I honestly I might just send her a beanie.

00:49:34.169 --> 00:49:35.689
I think I'm just gonna send her a beanie.

00:49:36.089 --> 00:49:43.369
Um, anywho, so McKenna and I, when we talk, it's boom boom boom boom boom boom boom.

00:49:43.449 --> 00:49:47.769
Like I FaceTimed her yesterday, we had seven different conversations and none of them were finished.

00:49:48.169 --> 00:49:50.089
That's how I like to be.

00:49:50.969 --> 00:49:54.329
So I am one to derail this derail the show.

00:49:54.649 --> 00:49:58.569
Um, who takes the podcast prep more seriously?

00:49:58.809 --> 00:50:01.289
I feel like this is just a hate crime against me.

00:50:01.529 --> 00:50:01.929
Not me.

00:50:02.409 --> 00:50:03.289
Obviously, me.

00:50:03.529 --> 00:50:04.649
Obviously, Harley.

00:50:04.730 --> 00:50:06.250
But this is also not a secret.

00:50:06.409 --> 00:50:09.529
I've been very open about this from the beginning.

00:50:09.849 --> 00:50:11.529
I think it's pretty open on this show.

00:50:11.849 --> 00:50:14.730
You're not gonna catch me researching, and it's nothing against the show or the people.

00:50:14.809 --> 00:50:16.169
I don't do that anyways.

00:50:16.329 --> 00:50:18.009
I didn't do that in school.

00:50:18.409 --> 00:50:22.889
No, at the end of the day, like this is our show, but at the end of the day, but it's Harley's show.

00:50:23.049 --> 00:50:23.849
It's my show.

00:50:24.169 --> 00:50:25.609
I'm here for a good time.

00:50:26.089 --> 00:50:27.210
That's how it should be.

00:50:27.929 --> 00:50:37.289
What's one habit or trait about you or the other hosts that drive you crazy?

00:50:37.689 --> 00:50:39.609
Wait, can I go back to the other thing?

00:50:39.849 --> 00:50:40.409
Sure.

00:50:40.809 --> 00:50:44.089
I make a gosh darn good PowerPoint.

00:50:44.569 --> 00:50:45.449
Oh, absolutely.

00:50:45.529 --> 00:50:50.889
I you do when you do work, when you do work, your work's good.

00:50:51.210 --> 00:50:51.849
It's good.

00:50:51.929 --> 00:50:52.409
That's all.

00:50:52.569 --> 00:50:54.409
Okay, you're you're like Noah.

00:50:54.569 --> 00:50:55.529
You're like Noah.

00:50:55.769 --> 00:50:57.529
Yeah, that arc is built.

00:50:57.769 --> 00:51:00.329
It's hard to just get you to work.

00:51:00.569 --> 00:51:02.169
Oh, you meant that Noah.

00:51:02.329 --> 00:51:03.210
I thought you meant Bible.

00:51:03.529 --> 00:51:06.009
Yeah, no, I mean I mean the Noah that I know.

00:51:06.169 --> 00:51:09.529
You're like him, he does great work.

00:51:09.689 --> 00:51:10.809
It's getting him there.

00:51:10.889 --> 00:51:12.250
That's the hard part.

00:51:13.769 --> 00:51:15.929
Anyway, let's go back to the other thing.

00:51:16.809 --> 00:51:17.609
Uh okay.

00:51:23.449 --> 00:51:26.569
When you do work, you do great work.

00:51:26.889 --> 00:51:27.369
I got one.

00:51:29.129 --> 00:51:30.089
I got one.

00:51:31.129 --> 00:51:41.769
Sometimes, sometimes you cut me off, and then I feel like I don't matter, and you and then you don't actually want to hear my stories.

00:51:42.009 --> 00:51:45.689
You're absolutely right, and that is something that I am actually working on.

00:51:46.089 --> 00:51:50.730
It has been brought up a lot, truly, and it's and I know that's how your brain works.

00:51:50.809 --> 00:52:00.250
Like, I know you don't mean anything by it, because I used to do the same thing, and I caught myself doing it with Dylan, and I was like, I don't want him to feel belittled in any way, like I want him to finish his thought.

00:52:00.489 --> 00:52:04.649
So the past five, and I'm happy you're starting this now, but it's a long journey.

00:52:04.809 --> 00:52:09.129
Okay, it took me five years to be able to just like listen.

00:52:10.409 --> 00:52:22.329
Um, the biggest complaints that I get about me on the show are that I constantly cut people off or I talk over people.

00:52:22.649 --> 00:52:25.449
Yes, those are the the two biggest ones.

00:52:25.769 --> 00:52:32.809
And for everybody listening, I I truly am I hear you, I listened, and I am trying.

00:52:33.289 --> 00:52:34.969
I will say, oh go ahead.

00:52:35.369 --> 00:52:36.089
No, go ahead.

00:52:36.169 --> 00:52:37.049
I insist.

00:52:37.689 --> 00:52:55.210
I will say there was some comments uh made to me about me cutting guests off or commenting as they're talking, saying only one that got brought up was like, you don't have to constantly say, Oh, yeah, during an interview.

00:52:56.089 --> 00:52:59.849
And though that is true, I agree.

00:53:00.649 --> 00:53:04.169
Uh that is a thing that I'm doing on purpose.

00:53:04.329 --> 00:53:14.569
What you don't see behind the scenes is there's a lot of technology at work, yeah, and I have to make sure that the audios are coming through and correct.

00:53:14.649 --> 00:53:16.809
And yes, that's what I'm doing.

00:53:16.889 --> 00:53:18.250
That it's just a test.

00:53:18.649 --> 00:53:27.049
I was honestly just about to say, too, because there are times where like I come in and obviously like everything's working smoothly now.

00:53:27.129 --> 00:53:28.329
There's only two of us on here.

00:53:28.409 --> 00:53:30.889
Even when we add Chris, sometimes like things get jumbled.

00:53:30.969 --> 00:53:39.049
I know since I've moved my internet's not the best, but like the more guests that are on, the more like things like lag on my end.

00:53:39.129 --> 00:53:42.089
So I also talk when people are talking, cut them off.

00:53:42.169 --> 00:53:42.889
Not on purpose.

00:53:43.049 --> 00:53:45.369
On my end, they have stopped talking.

00:53:45.609 --> 00:53:48.409
So so like there is that.

00:53:48.649 --> 00:53:50.809
Um no, anywho, that's it.

00:53:50.889 --> 00:53:54.889
And even then, it's not like not a big thing because I I remind myself it's actually not that deep.

00:53:54.969 --> 00:53:56.889
And you do love me and you do love my stories.

00:53:56.969 --> 00:53:58.649
So no, absolutely.

00:53:58.889 --> 00:54:16.730
Um, but yeah, you're right, like that is part of it, and and that is why I do say like little random things when people are talking, just to make sure that the like if you're talking and there's a delay, I can see it if I talk while you're talking.

00:54:16.969 --> 00:54:17.609
Yes.

00:54:18.809 --> 00:54:21.929
You being the guest can't see those things.

00:54:22.089 --> 00:54:25.049
I can see them on my end because I am the admin.

00:54:25.129 --> 00:54:27.529
I see all of the little things, I see the drops.

00:54:27.689 --> 00:54:29.769
Like, that's what people don't understand.

00:54:29.849 --> 00:54:32.089
Is like you just see my face.

00:54:32.250 --> 00:54:36.809
I'm looking at two different screens and running multiple calculations and stuff.

00:54:37.609 --> 00:54:43.609
I also, and here's my thing is like we're on Spotify, right?

00:54:43.689 --> 00:54:54.649
So if it's on YouTube, you can kind of see, like you'll you, you see everything, but being on Spotify, especially with me, I don't ask the questions, right?

00:54:54.730 --> 00:54:59.449
Like I I like to hear people talk and I shine more on the game side of things.

00:54:59.769 --> 00:55:06.089
Um, but if I am not going, yeah, for sure, I will daydream.

00:55:06.250 --> 00:55:09.210
And it is nothing against the guest, it is nothing against anybody.

00:55:09.369 --> 00:55:10.889
That literally is how my brain works.

00:55:10.969 --> 00:55:14.730
I have to keep myself engaged, and that means making the commentary.

00:55:14.809 --> 00:55:19.449
So my brain can say we are still listening to them, and that's where we're gonna stay.

00:55:19.689 --> 00:55:22.009
Because if not, I'm thinking about XYZ.

00:55:22.409 --> 00:55:23.609
No, that's understandable.

00:55:23.849 --> 00:55:26.730
Yeah, yeah, that's just the nature of doing this virtually.

00:55:26.889 --> 00:55:38.730
Like if we always had it in person in the studio here, oh yeah, you'll notice the difference between this show and off the record with me and Chris because like everything is simultaneous because we're in person.

00:55:38.889 --> 00:55:43.449
Yes, but on here, doing it virtually, you have people all over the country, different internet connections.

00:55:43.529 --> 00:55:45.689
It's just it's a lot of technology at work.

00:55:45.849 --> 00:55:46.809
It's a lot.

00:55:47.210 --> 00:55:51.210
Um, this is a good one.

00:55:51.369 --> 00:55:53.929
Good if the podcast ended tomorrow.

00:55:54.169 --> 00:55:56.329
What would you both miss most?

00:55:56.889 --> 00:55:57.769
Got it.

00:55:58.809 --> 00:56:00.329
I'm hoping it's the same thing.

00:56:00.409 --> 00:56:02.250
It'd be crazy if it wasn't.

00:56:02.649 --> 00:56:04.730
I would miss talking to you every week.

00:56:04.969 --> 00:56:05.449
Me too.

00:56:05.529 --> 00:56:06.489
That's what I was gonna say.

00:56:06.649 --> 00:56:14.569
The guests are great, but it's really nice to to have time that's fully carved out, like to spend just for us to chat.

00:56:14.730 --> 00:56:16.169
Yeah, yeah.

00:56:16.329 --> 00:56:17.849
No, I would, I would miss that a lot.

00:56:18.009 --> 00:56:22.169
Not that we we're siblings, so we talk outside of this show.

00:56:22.649 --> 00:56:23.689
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:24.809 --> 00:56:30.169
And it's nice to have just like we're talking on the phone, like we're not FaceTiming each other.

00:56:30.329 --> 00:56:33.289
And when I'm FaceTiming you, I love you is to see your baby.

00:56:33.609 --> 00:56:34.489
I'm be real.

00:56:34.569 --> 00:56:40.169
Yeah, um, but like this is a really nice face-to-face, especially since I live so far away.

00:56:40.489 --> 00:56:49.210
It's also just uninterrupted, like you we both have families, there's there's a lot in the background, like yeah, an uninterrupted focused conversation.

00:56:49.529 --> 00:56:54.809
Yeah, uh again, you don't see what we do prior to clicking the record button or after.

00:56:54.969 --> 00:56:58.089
There's a lot of conversation leading up to and after.

00:56:58.329 --> 00:56:58.730
Yeah.

00:56:58.969 --> 00:57:00.809
Um okay.

00:57:01.129 --> 00:57:06.409
Now we're diving into more personal questions.

00:57:06.730 --> 00:57:07.049
Okay.

00:57:08.250 --> 00:57:13.609
What's a moment in your life when music genuinely helped you get through something difficult?

00:57:14.969 --> 00:57:18.250
Um, this is so sad.

00:57:19.849 --> 00:57:21.689
Do you want to go first?

00:57:22.809 --> 00:57:24.969
Mine is so recent.

00:57:25.849 --> 00:57:27.369
It's so recent.

00:57:28.009 --> 00:57:29.609
Dang, okay.

00:57:30.569 --> 00:57:33.529
Um, well, see, I was thinking of one for you.

00:57:33.689 --> 00:57:36.969
Um the song, the song Miss You by Blink 182.

00:57:37.210 --> 00:57:37.289
Yeah.

00:57:37.529 --> 00:57:40.250
Because I was doing the research for the Blink 182 stuff.

00:57:40.409 --> 00:57:40.649
Yeah.

00:57:40.809 --> 00:57:45.929
Uh, it reminded me that you used to have a really rough time with that song.

00:57:46.250 --> 00:57:47.369
Yes, I did.

00:57:47.689 --> 00:57:48.569
Not anymore.

00:57:48.730 --> 00:57:50.009
We love healing.

00:57:50.169 --> 00:57:54.329
Um, but unfortunately, boys were not nice to me in high school.

00:57:54.569 --> 00:57:59.289
So anytime I heard that song, it would bring up awful emotions for me.

00:57:59.929 --> 00:58:01.849
So, but now I love it.

00:58:02.649 --> 00:58:06.329
Uh, I'm trying to think, like, I'm very emotional with music.

00:58:06.809 --> 00:58:11.369
Well, that's my thing, too, is like you get me on the right song, I'm gonna cry anyways.

00:58:11.449 --> 00:58:14.809
Like, there are certain songs where I know that if I listen to it, I'm gonna cry.

00:58:14.969 --> 00:58:17.769
So I only listen to it when I'm okay with crying.

00:58:18.089 --> 00:58:27.689
I the biggest example for me is honestly, we just talked about it with Scott, um, but I didn't really get to dive into it too much.

00:58:28.009 --> 00:58:34.009
But like that album, their compilation album between now and then, volume one.

00:58:35.049 --> 00:58:38.089
Um, like been on repeat in my car.

00:58:38.329 --> 00:58:41.769
I I can't escape it, it's crazy since that interview.

00:58:42.009 --> 00:58:51.129
But like I was I was bullied in high school, I was very much alone a lot, and like, dude, I would leave the house.

00:58:51.529 --> 00:58:58.009
I mean, you remember, I would leave the house and I would go on these walks, and I would walk to it, it was called Anne Superet.

00:58:58.250 --> 00:58:59.449
It was a store in our town.

00:58:59.529 --> 00:59:01.849
Yeah, it was a four-mile walk.

00:59:02.089 --> 00:59:07.529
I was 14, 15 on the side of a country, just a country road.

00:59:07.769 --> 00:59:15.529
I would walk there and I would listen to music, and like that album was one of the few albums that I had because we were poor.

00:59:15.609 --> 00:59:17.849
It's not like I just had access to music.

00:59:18.169 --> 00:59:32.329
So, like I had an MP3 player, it was a shitty MP3 player that I had to download the CDs that we had accessible in the house to a computer, put them onto this MP3 player, and I would walk to the store.

00:59:32.489 --> 00:59:33.449
And that's what I would do.

00:59:33.529 --> 00:59:52.089
I'd listen to that, I'd listen to some Papa Roach, um, Meatloaf, Pink Floyd, like all of these really influential parts of my life stem from taking those walks, and I would take those walks because of the the rough things going on at home that I didn't want to deal with.

00:59:53.049 --> 01:00:05.689
I um it's crazy to think that like you had just the DVDs, and for those listening, I'm sure we said it before Harley and I are seven years apart.

01:00:05.769 --> 01:00:07.689
Like, I'm seven years younger than him.

01:00:07.929 --> 01:00:25.689
So by the time that I was I don't want to say old enough to listen to music, because obviously like I listened to music as a child, but like old enough to have my own device to listen to music, Harley at that point had um Apple music or what iTunes.

01:00:27.609 --> 01:00:45.529
So it's it's so crazy because obviously you still love those bands that you named, and like I'm sure it had like on your developmental brain a heavy influence of being like, Oh, this is the music I like, and this is like the nostalgia things I like, but then I was able to be on your iTunes, and by that point you had had a wide range of music.

01:00:46.089 --> 01:00:56.169
So I think that's why I like so many things because I was able to have all of that music because you paved the way for that, and I think that's so crazy.

01:00:56.250 --> 01:00:57.929
Like, I guess I I never really thought about it.

01:00:58.009 --> 01:00:59.289
I think that's so crazy.

01:00:59.449 --> 01:01:03.049
Um, it's kind of like how the only movies in our house were horror movies.

01:01:03.210 --> 01:01:04.969
I feel like we had on DVD for some reason.

01:01:05.129 --> 01:01:06.329
Have you did you ever realize that?

01:01:06.409 --> 01:01:13.529
Or they were like really serious horror movies, and I now love horror movies, like that's my favorite because we didn't have cable.

01:01:13.689 --> 01:01:17.049
I mean, we did we had antenna cable, but we didn't have like cable.

01:01:17.369 --> 01:01:22.569
Um, so I would just watch Silent Hill at six.

01:01:23.769 --> 01:01:44.969
That's just well so we we had um I had iTunes, but at that time the technology came out where you could take um I had a CD player in my car that had a USB drive slot, and you could take all of your music and put it on a USB drive, plug it into your car.

01:01:45.210 --> 01:01:52.009
Now I had my entire music library without needing an MP3 player or any device just in my car.

01:01:52.169 --> 01:01:53.449
It was crazy.

01:01:54.009 --> 01:01:54.489
Crazy times.

01:01:54.569 --> 01:01:55.609
We gotta bring that back.

01:01:55.849 --> 01:01:57.049
Oh, I still do it.

01:01:57.369 --> 01:01:58.009
Yeah.

01:01:58.649 --> 01:02:02.649
Mine, mine would be this is recently.

01:02:02.730 --> 01:02:06.250
Um, I don't think you guys understand how much I really hated my job at Starbucks.

01:02:06.409 --> 01:02:09.210
I would cry every morning going to Starbucks.

01:02:09.609 --> 01:02:10.250
Wild.

01:02:10.569 --> 01:02:24.009
Um, but I would listen, not not gospel music, because it wasn't gospel music, but it would be like Christian rock, like Chris Tom Templeton, Tom Tom Tom Chris something.

01:02:24.250 --> 01:02:25.449
Anywho Stapleton?

01:02:25.689 --> 01:02:26.569
Stapleton, thank you.

01:02:26.809 --> 01:02:27.769
Chris Stapleton?

01:02:28.250 --> 01:02:29.210
Is that Christian rock?

01:02:29.289 --> 01:02:30.809
I thought that was just country.

01:02:31.529 --> 01:02:33.049
I might be thinking of someone else.

01:02:33.289 --> 01:02:35.289
I'm not gonna deep dive into that because I don't care that much.

01:02:35.369 --> 01:02:35.849
Fair enough.

01:02:36.009 --> 01:02:45.369
Um, but I would listen to more like Christian rock type of things, um, just to like get me through.

01:02:46.089 --> 01:02:51.609
Like it was crazy because I literally was crying, or it would be like some Jason Darullo.

01:02:52.329 --> 01:02:53.369
I'd be blasting that out.

01:02:54.009 --> 01:02:58.329
What a wild transition to just be like well Jason.

01:03:00.250 --> 01:03:07.289
No, there's like there's a handful of them that I would like could be crying through it.

01:03:07.609 --> 01:03:12.489
It's just like in the arms of the angel, Mr.

01:03:12.569 --> 01:03:18.730
Worldwide, or or wiggle, wiggle, wiggle.

01:03:23.289 --> 01:03:25.849
Um, anywho, yeah, that was a time.

01:03:27.289 --> 01:03:32.250
I literally like I could give you because going to Starbucks, I I could only listen to two songs.

01:03:32.409 --> 01:03:33.769
It was only eight minutes away.

01:03:34.009 --> 01:03:34.169
Right.

01:03:34.329 --> 01:03:38.009
So I had to choose wisely before I left the house of what I was gonna listen to.

01:03:38.089 --> 01:03:46.250
And it was like usually one sort of like Christian rock, like in my feels, trying to ground myself.

01:03:46.489 --> 01:03:53.210
Um, because even with like the Jesus aspect out of it, like that, just like that type of music, I feel like grounds me.

01:03:53.289 --> 01:04:02.730
Um, or like RB, like even with Khaled, like if it was like Christian rock, it would be some sort of RB, just kind of like ground me into my space, and then it would be like something I'm I'm bumping, right?

01:04:04.809 --> 01:04:06.730
Drying up get ready.

01:04:07.129 --> 01:04:10.250
Um, so a lot of papa roach, too.

01:04:10.489 --> 01:04:11.129
Oh, nice.

01:04:11.289 --> 01:04:22.649
I'm not like cut my life into literally blaring into tearing my heart open so myself, shut.

01:04:23.289 --> 01:04:35.689
Uh so I don't know if I've ever actually talked about this on this show or not, but like my music routine for the mornings, I listen to classical.

01:04:36.169 --> 01:04:37.449
Yeah, you're supposed to.

01:04:37.689 --> 01:04:40.409
So when I when I get in the car in the morning, I turn it on.

01:04:40.809 --> 01:04:49.609
I listen to classical music my entire trip to work, and then when I go into the office, I usually turn on my podcasts.

01:04:49.849 --> 01:04:52.889
See, that's the thing with like doing a podcast now.

01:04:53.049 --> 01:04:56.329
I didn't used to listen to podcasts near as much.

01:04:57.210 --> 01:05:01.369
Now I listen to like four or five shows a day.

01:05:01.769 --> 01:05:02.649
That's crazy.

01:05:02.889 --> 01:05:03.929
Yeah, literally.

01:05:04.009 --> 01:05:06.889
Like, I'll give you I'll give you the rundown of what I listen to.

01:05:07.049 --> 01:05:16.889
So um the Luke Beasley show, Luke Beasley, which say what you want about me, I don't care, but like I listen to that show.

01:05:17.129 --> 01:05:29.210
Um the uh uh uh Tim Butterly show, uh Super Effective, which is the Pokemon podcast that I listen to.

01:05:29.929 --> 01:05:33.769
The non-Tendo podcast, I listen to that every week.

01:05:34.169 --> 01:05:34.809
Love that.

01:05:34.969 --> 01:05:35.289
Okay.

01:05:35.929 --> 01:05:38.089
Um what else do I listen to?

01:05:38.250 --> 01:05:44.809
I listen to all of the music podcasts that I've been a part of, so drums and rums, pick a disc.

01:05:45.929 --> 01:05:50.089
Uh Annette stopped doing her show, so I don't listen to that anymore.

01:05:50.169 --> 01:05:52.489
But I used to listen to music junkies every week.

01:05:52.969 --> 01:05:56.649
So, like to be supportive of all the people who are supportive of me.

01:05:56.889 --> 01:06:01.369
Um, and then I also listen to the Zack Sang show every week.

01:06:01.609 --> 01:06:02.250
Yeah.

01:06:03.449 --> 01:06:04.250
So there you go.

01:06:04.409 --> 01:06:04.730
Yeah.

01:06:05.289 --> 01:06:07.049
Oh, oh, and the SDR show.

01:06:07.129 --> 01:06:07.449
I forgot.

01:06:07.609 --> 01:06:09.609
I also used to listen to the SDR show.

01:06:09.849 --> 01:06:11.769
I love a good audiobook.

01:06:12.089 --> 01:06:20.329
Especially when I when I found um what it was like hard to read, like hard to find time to read, like with working at Starbucks.

01:06:20.730 --> 01:06:25.849
Like I would love a good when I was getting ready for something, throwing my headphones with a good audiobook.

01:06:26.089 --> 01:06:36.649
Um I tried listening to podcasts on I there's only one podcast or two podcasts I actually watch, but they're on YouTube.

01:06:37.529 --> 01:06:38.730
It's not ours.

01:06:39.449 --> 01:06:41.289
Don't even get your hopes up.

01:06:41.689 --> 01:06:43.929
Um I'll buy more stuff off the website.

01:06:44.009 --> 01:06:44.969
I'll support that way.

01:06:45.049 --> 01:06:48.329
I just I cannot stand the sound of my own voice.

01:06:48.489 --> 01:06:49.609
I think I am the same.

01:06:50.489 --> 01:06:52.009
You didn't listen to off the record.

01:06:52.329 --> 01:06:56.329
No, but that one, that one I am planning on listening to.

01:06:56.489 --> 01:06:57.769
I will I'll give you that one.

01:06:57.849 --> 01:07:00.649
Um, but anything with this, I love doing it.

01:07:00.889 --> 01:07:02.169
I don't want to listen to it.

01:07:02.489 --> 01:07:03.769
That's understandable.

01:07:04.089 --> 01:07:06.969
Um off the record, I do want to listen to.

01:07:07.049 --> 01:07:09.289
That was another thing Lauren was talking about.

01:07:09.449 --> 01:07:11.769
Um, I had to get her the I was supposed to ask you.

01:07:11.849 --> 01:07:13.449
I guess we could do this off the show.

01:07:13.689 --> 01:07:18.969
Um, the other podcasts that you mentioned, off the record, and then the dark side of music.

01:07:19.369 --> 01:07:20.969
She is very interested in those.

01:07:21.210 --> 01:07:22.009
Oh, okay.

01:07:22.250 --> 01:07:23.849
I she listens weekly.

01:07:24.009 --> 01:07:25.210
She's our biggest fan.

01:07:25.289 --> 01:07:26.250
I love her so much.

01:07:26.409 --> 01:07:26.969
Anywho.

01:07:27.449 --> 01:07:29.849
Uh post uh uh pre-malone, don't worry.

01:07:30.889 --> 01:07:33.369
I'm going to make a shirt just for you.

01:07:35.609 --> 01:07:37.529
It'll be adding up this week.

01:07:38.250 --> 01:07:38.809
Vove.

01:07:40.329 --> 01:07:42.649
Uh the next one.

01:07:43.289 --> 01:07:49.129
What does a perfect day look like for us when we're not doing the show?

01:07:49.529 --> 01:07:50.169
Ooh.

01:07:51.609 --> 01:07:56.730
Spending time with my fam, hanging out with my boy, my boy and my wife.

01:07:58.649 --> 01:08:00.649
Playing video games, watching TV.

01:08:04.089 --> 01:08:05.449
That's pretty much it.

01:08:06.569 --> 01:08:10.569
Mine is mine is a Saturday with Dylan.

01:08:10.730 --> 01:08:24.890
Every Saturday we sleep in, we get up and we go and get coffee, whether it be from like a new place, um Duncan, obviously, and then we find somewhere to go and get lunch.

01:08:25.770 --> 01:08:29.529
And then we come home and we do do you and Lindsay do parallel play?

01:08:29.689 --> 01:08:30.649
Do you know what that is?

01:08:30.890 --> 01:08:31.770
I don't know what that is.

01:08:31.930 --> 01:08:32.409
What's that?

01:08:32.569 --> 01:08:43.369
So Dylan's on his computer, like either watching sports or like talking to his friends, and then I have my switch or like I'm doing on TikTok and like we're in the same room, but we're doing separate things.

01:08:43.529 --> 01:08:46.090
Oh, like we're still like I didn't know there was a name for that.

01:08:46.250 --> 01:08:47.689
Yeah, it's called parallel play.

01:08:47.849 --> 01:08:53.449
Kids are supposed to do it at a young age where they can play in the same room together, but not play with each other.

01:08:53.849 --> 01:08:57.689
If we do that every day, pretty much all day.

01:08:58.729 --> 01:09:01.050
Um, but it's like we have like that connection.

01:09:01.130 --> 01:09:04.489
Like Saturday is really our our connection day.

01:09:04.809 --> 01:09:06.489
Actually, with that aside.

01:09:07.289 --> 01:09:08.250
Oh, sorry, go ahead.

01:09:08.489 --> 01:09:20.649
I was just gonna say she'll be on her phone like watching Smosh or like murder stuff or paranormal stuff, and I'll be either watching like Yu-Gi-Oh! or playing um Xbox.

01:09:21.210 --> 01:09:21.689
Yeah.

01:09:23.130 --> 01:09:25.689
And then Adam will be sitting there in his little kitchen.

01:09:26.729 --> 01:09:30.170
Making making making food for the family because no one else is doing it.

01:09:30.409 --> 01:09:32.489
Everyone's on their technology, their iPad babies.

01:09:32.970 --> 01:09:34.489
Sitting in his kitchen or he's got his vacuum.

01:09:34.569 --> 01:09:36.649
He's like, I'm it's every day with these people.

01:09:36.889 --> 01:09:39.210
I'm always everything or cleaning.

01:09:40.649 --> 01:09:46.489
Um, or or my perfect day is whenever I get to be just a girl with Dylan.

01:09:46.809 --> 01:09:50.170
Um, honestly, or with his mom too, with anyone to be opposite.

01:09:50.729 --> 01:09:53.449
Anyone could be in place of this, but I like it to be two people.

01:09:53.609 --> 01:09:55.289
I like me and somebody else.

01:09:55.609 --> 01:10:09.289
We get coffee, we hit a thrift store, we hit a Target, we hit a TJ Maxx or a Coles or a Marshall's shopping, shopping all day long, and then there's lunch involved.

01:10:10.250 --> 01:10:12.010
I might be a girl.

01:10:12.250 --> 01:10:12.889
You are a girl.

01:10:13.050 --> 01:10:14.250
Dylan is also a girl.

01:10:14.409 --> 01:10:16.970
I isn't that that sounds so lovely.

01:10:17.289 --> 01:10:18.329
Doesn't that sound so lovely?

01:10:18.569 --> 01:10:19.529
You almost had me though.

01:10:19.689 --> 01:10:21.609
I don't want to go to a clothing store.

01:10:21.929 --> 01:10:24.970
No, but like we can go to a game store.

01:10:25.210 --> 01:10:27.210
We can go to we can go to a mall.

01:10:27.449 --> 01:10:32.889
Take me to a mall with all of the options and a buddy and a crisp coffee in our hand.

01:10:32.970 --> 01:10:36.569
Yeah, we are just girls, we're just girls.

01:10:37.130 --> 01:10:41.289
Yeah, you're just I think I take I can't take it everything back.

01:10:41.529 --> 01:10:42.010
No, you can.

01:10:42.250 --> 01:10:47.130
Yeah, you can with your family, forget your family, get a coffee with me and go shop.

01:10:48.489 --> 01:10:51.609
It's my day, and I don't even have to buy anything.

01:10:51.849 --> 01:10:56.329
Like, I mean, I told you yesterday about how we ended up over in Timbuktu.

01:10:56.649 --> 01:11:00.649
Um, but we where we ended up was like a giant outdoor mall.

01:11:00.889 --> 01:11:08.090
And I told Dylan, I was like, like I love and we had only ever been there once when him and I started dating.

01:11:08.250 --> 01:11:14.569
His mom worked at Jockey, and she worked in that like giant it's buddy, it's huge, it's a giant outlet mall.

01:11:14.970 --> 01:11:19.289
I can't tell you how fun I find getting in my car.

01:11:19.529 --> 01:11:22.970
Like how many times I have been driving to somewhere.

01:11:23.210 --> 01:11:23.929
I have a plan.

01:11:24.010 --> 01:11:25.289
I'm going to a place.

01:11:25.449 --> 01:11:25.769
Yeah.

01:11:26.010 --> 01:11:31.050
And I notice a plaza that I've not seen before.

01:11:31.849 --> 01:11:35.609
You think for one minute I'm not stopping wherever I was going?

01:11:35.929 --> 01:11:37.369
I'm going to that plaza.

01:11:37.529 --> 01:11:39.449
I'm just gonna go drive and see what's there.

01:11:39.609 --> 01:11:41.849
If I see something that looks interesting, parking.

01:11:42.170 --> 01:11:42.809
I'm driving.

01:11:43.609 --> 01:11:44.970
His mom and I do that all the time.

01:11:45.050 --> 01:11:45.449
We'll be driving.

01:11:45.609 --> 01:11:46.649
She'll be like, I'll be like, what is that?

01:11:46.729 --> 01:11:48.649
And she'll go, I don't know, let's go see and hit a Yui.

01:11:49.369 --> 01:11:50.170
And we go like C.

01:11:50.809 --> 01:11:54.809
My gym uh that I'm going to is in a place called Newtown.

01:11:55.210 --> 01:11:59.849
And I went there, I parked, and I walked towards the gym.

01:12:00.010 --> 01:12:00.809
And it's like that.

01:12:00.889 --> 01:12:04.809
It's this giant, like, outdoor, there's just store after store after store.

01:12:04.889 --> 01:12:09.929
I'm like, oh, maybe I skip my workout and I just walk through all these stores.

01:12:10.170 --> 01:12:11.130
Hey, it's exercise.

01:12:11.210 --> 01:12:12.729
That's how I get my daily exercise.

01:12:12.889 --> 01:12:20.809
Like, I miss the days when I would come to Florida just visiting, and Dylan and I would like, we would go shopping, but again, I don't have to buy anything.

01:12:20.970 --> 01:12:22.250
I just want to walk around.

01:12:22.409 --> 01:12:24.250
I just want to walk around and see what's up.

01:12:24.489 --> 01:12:27.369
Like, I want to, I haven't been to a fibolo in so long.

01:12:27.609 --> 01:12:28.889
I'm gonna go to a fibo.

01:12:29.210 --> 01:12:31.609
I want to hang out, I want to see what they got popping.

01:12:32.250 --> 01:12:34.010
Anywho, that's my buddy.

01:12:34.569 --> 01:12:36.649
Coffee and shop and maybe some lunch.

01:12:38.250 --> 01:12:39.529
Uh, let's see here.

01:12:39.769 --> 01:12:44.970
Outside of music, what are you most passionate about fans might not know?

01:12:45.210 --> 01:12:46.250
They know about that.

01:12:47.210 --> 01:12:53.769
Outside of music, I mean I'm passionate about a lot of things.

01:12:54.250 --> 01:13:02.970
I am passionate about my love for other people to the point that it stresses me out.

01:13:04.489 --> 01:13:08.649
I was thinking Pokemon or like something of that nature.

01:13:08.970 --> 01:13:11.289
I also like just don't have any hobbies anymore.

01:13:11.369 --> 01:13:14.250
So, like, all I can think about is other people and how much I love them.

01:13:14.569 --> 01:13:18.649
I also feel like we're pretty open with our other passions.

01:13:18.729 --> 01:13:20.809
Like, I we talk about Pokemon on here all the time.

01:13:20.970 --> 01:13:21.529
All the time.

01:13:22.090 --> 01:13:28.569
Um but like I don't know, I'm really passionate about songwriting as well, but that's still within music.

01:13:28.889 --> 01:13:33.529
Um I've been passionate about storytelling lately.

01:13:34.170 --> 01:13:34.489
Nice.

01:13:34.649 --> 01:13:37.050
I I've been back on my writing books thing.

01:13:37.289 --> 01:13:39.130
I kind of want to write a book.

01:13:39.529 --> 01:13:40.489
You should.

01:13:40.809 --> 01:13:42.090
Dylan says so too.

01:13:42.250 --> 01:13:44.489
I think I'd be really a great author.

01:13:44.970 --> 01:13:53.130
I have been trying to find like an idea of um, I guess you would call it passive income.

01:13:53.449 --> 01:13:58.729
But like I don't I don't wanna I don't want it to be put on here that that's why I'm doing it.

01:13:58.809 --> 01:14:17.130
I was just looking for like how can I utilize my love for talking to a group of people um in a way that can be beneficial to those people other than this show because like this show is beneficial to people, but like it's not we make no money.

01:14:17.369 --> 01:14:18.569
Well, no, it's not even that.

01:14:18.649 --> 01:14:22.569
It's just like it's not something that like it's beneficial in a learning aspect.

01:14:22.729 --> 01:14:24.729
Yeah, like I'm not changing lives.

01:14:24.889 --> 01:14:28.090
Like, how can I make an impact on people's lives for the better?

01:14:28.250 --> 01:14:34.889
Yeah, and um I've been contemplating getting into motivational speaking.

01:14:35.289 --> 01:14:36.329
I think you should.

01:14:36.649 --> 01:14:37.769
Oh, that would be so fun.

01:14:37.849 --> 01:14:43.769
You should have been thinking about like the things that I've done, things that I've overcome, things that I've accomplished.

01:14:44.010 --> 01:14:52.329
Yeah, and wanting to show the lower side of the world that there's a route out, yeah.

01:14:52.569 --> 01:14:56.649
Yeah, so I I I'm thinking about I'm thinking about doing that.

01:14:56.889 --> 01:15:01.769
Or coaching is another thing I thought about doing, um, podcast coaching specifically.

01:15:02.090 --> 01:15:04.649
Like we're not the most successful show in the world.

01:15:04.729 --> 01:15:06.489
I'm not gonna lie to you guys.

01:15:06.809 --> 01:15:08.489
We're not the most successful.

01:15:08.970 --> 01:15:10.489
You know the ins and outs though.

01:15:10.729 --> 01:15:19.449
I I feel like I do, and I feel like I could get somebody started to follow something they wanted to do, you know.

01:15:20.170 --> 01:15:37.609
Like not maybe not necessarily make them the next Joe Rogan, because I'm not, but but like we're at a level where it would make sense for me to take somebody that just is like, I don't even know how to start and how yeah, and just help them through their first 10 episodes or whatever.

01:15:37.849 --> 01:15:40.409
Uh so I'm I'm thinking about doing something like that.

01:15:40.649 --> 01:15:44.729
Yeah, I mean I I unfortunately will not be doing it for free.

01:15:44.970 --> 01:15:48.970
Um I already do this show for free and it cost me a lot.

01:15:49.689 --> 01:15:52.409
Um another sorry, I don't mean to cut you off.

01:15:52.489 --> 01:15:52.970
No, that's all right.

01:15:53.050 --> 01:15:53.609
I think that's great.

01:15:53.689 --> 01:15:54.090
I think you should.

01:15:54.170 --> 01:15:59.289
It just that jogged my like something else I'm passionate about and made me think about is human connection.

01:15:59.529 --> 01:16:05.130
Like even today at TJ Maxx, I don't know what it is with I don't know if it's just because I moved down here.

01:16:05.210 --> 01:16:12.970
I mean, obviously I've I love talking, duh, but being more present.

01:16:13.210 --> 01:16:29.289
So like before in Ohio, and it's not the most safe thing because I'm a small female, like a relatively small female, you know, but I would like be on my phone or I would feel awkward if it's just me, you know what I mean, or like something along those lines.

01:16:29.609 --> 01:16:51.689
Um, but even when like thrifting or today when I was talking to the checkout lady, and I'm like, yeah, like human connection to me now is so important because I see like I don't know, just how it can brighten someone's day because we're always so engrossed in our phones all the time.

01:16:51.849 --> 01:17:01.369
Like it drives me up a wall that like when I'm out and about, like if I'm at a restaurant or if I'm at um, like I said, just shopping.

01:17:01.529 --> 01:17:05.050
Like I try not to be on my phone now unless there's a reason to be on my phone.

01:17:05.210 --> 01:17:06.569
Um, and just having that connection.

01:17:06.649 --> 01:17:09.769
Like I bumped into a lady today and I was like, I'm so sorry.

01:17:09.929 --> 01:17:13.449
I have no like sense of spatial awareness, like my bad.

01:17:13.609 --> 01:17:14.889
And she was like, girl, me either.

01:17:14.970 --> 01:17:16.569
And we just sat and talked about it.

01:17:16.970 --> 01:17:17.849
Human connection.

01:17:17.929 --> 01:17:18.329
I don't know.

01:17:18.409 --> 01:17:20.250
I've been that's something the past few months.

01:17:20.329 --> 01:17:24.329
I don't know if it's working at Starbucks or what, but I've been like very Yeah.

01:17:24.569 --> 01:17:31.609
I want to be like present in life and like get to know people from all walks of life because we only get to live this life once.

01:17:31.849 --> 01:17:37.130
So um, speaking of human connections, I did want to bring this up.

01:17:37.210 --> 01:17:37.849
Uh-huh.

01:17:38.090 --> 01:17:44.889
They didn't ask me to, but uh it's as somebody that's currently struggling with weight issues and doing my best.

01:17:45.130 --> 01:17:47.529
Um, I think encouragement is important.

01:17:47.769 --> 01:17:48.090
Yeah.

01:17:48.329 --> 01:17:56.409
So we recently put up a YouTube short uh discussing Lizzo's transformation, and somebody commented on that.

01:17:56.569 --> 01:18:00.329
Her name, uh, her name is Maribel Gonzalez.

01:18:00.809 --> 01:18:06.010
Um she said, type two diabetic here in my third month of Ozympic.

01:18:06.090 --> 01:18:08.329
Now I'm down 11 pounds.

01:18:08.649 --> 01:18:21.050
That plus or that puts me at 239, and it's great because I have an autoimmune disease that causes me chronic debilitating pain and limits my ability to move, clean, cook, exercise, etc.

01:18:21.449 --> 01:18:26.649
I was actually 180 about 10 years ago, so definitely trying to get back to that.

01:18:26.889 --> 01:18:30.729
So um, Maribel, keep up the incredible work.

01:18:30.889 --> 01:18:34.489
Like we're here for you, we're supporting you.

01:18:34.729 --> 01:18:38.010
Um and and keep us updated on your journey.

01:18:38.090 --> 01:18:41.689
And uh, you know, just wanted to throw that out there.

01:18:41.929 --> 01:18:44.250
Um, let's see here.

01:18:44.409 --> 01:18:45.289
We got one more.

01:18:45.449 --> 01:18:45.929
You ready?

01:18:46.090 --> 01:18:46.489
One more.

01:18:46.569 --> 01:18:47.050
I'm ready.

01:18:47.130 --> 01:18:47.689
This is so fun.

01:18:47.769 --> 01:18:49.130
Let's do this more often.

01:18:50.170 --> 01:18:56.170
What's one personal goal you're working toward right now that has nothing to do with the podcast?

01:18:56.329 --> 01:18:58.729
I think we kind of already went through those actually.

01:18:59.689 --> 01:19:00.809
Um, yeah.

01:19:01.369 --> 01:19:03.689
For me, it's definitely the weight loss.

01:19:03.769 --> 01:19:09.289
I'm yeah, if if you're listening and you have any advice, please feel free to reach out.

01:19:09.369 --> 01:19:19.929
I I'm always open to uh advice and open to criticism about my lifestyle and how I'm uh living it.

01:19:20.170 --> 01:19:29.769
If you uh you know, even even for me, when it comes to my health, even negativity can fuel motivation.

01:19:30.170 --> 01:19:38.489
So, like if you just want to jump on there and be like, stop fucking eating, fat ass, like it's better than nothing.

01:19:38.649 --> 01:19:39.769
Yeah, yeah.

01:19:40.090 --> 01:19:44.010
So um, but I mean, I I'm trying.

01:19:44.329 --> 01:19:45.929
That's that's the best I can do.

01:19:46.170 --> 01:19:47.289
You just gotta try your best.

01:19:47.529 --> 01:19:50.729
My at where I work, they say one percent better a day.

01:19:50.889 --> 01:20:10.569
That means by the end of the year, you are 37 better than where you started, and that might not look like a lot, but that what if you can do one percent a day, whether whether that be one less meal, one more 10 minutes on the treadmill, you did one percent better than what you did the day before.

01:20:10.809 --> 01:20:11.369
That's true.

01:20:11.449 --> 01:20:11.849
That's true.

01:20:12.010 --> 01:20:15.609
Yeah, um, I I have a couple.

01:20:15.769 --> 01:20:20.809
Mine mine is also health focused, but it's not necessarily weight loss.

01:20:20.889 --> 01:20:22.409
Like that would be pretty cool.

01:20:22.649 --> 01:20:25.769
Um, mine is more in like strength.

01:20:25.929 --> 01:20:27.130
Like, I feel like working at strong.

01:20:27.529 --> 01:20:33.769
Starbucks with all the bending down and everything and like the squatting that my knee for those listening I have like crazy knee problems.

01:20:33.929 --> 01:20:43.529
Um but I feel like that helped strengthen my knee a lot and I've become more like limber and like and like flexible and and better on my feet because I just had to be.

01:20:43.849 --> 01:20:52.250
Um so I definitely I think strength and like mental health I really want to work on because I was really sad.

01:20:52.409 --> 01:20:56.409
Not gonna get into it, but like I was unwell there for a minute.

01:20:56.729 --> 01:21:01.449
So I really want to focus on like the things that make me happy.

01:21:01.609 --> 01:21:07.929
Um, and maybe try not pouring as much energy, not into things that don't make me happy because you have to do that, right?

01:21:08.010 --> 01:21:10.409
I hate when people are like, oh, only only do things that make you happy.

01:21:10.489 --> 01:21:11.449
That's not how life works.

01:21:11.609 --> 01:21:12.970
That is not how life works.

01:21:13.849 --> 01:21:18.809
Um but like, you know, people who aren't filling up my cup.

01:21:18.970 --> 01:21:20.729
And I know we've talked a lot about this.

01:21:20.889 --> 01:21:22.809
I'm not gonna go into it because that's crazy.

01:21:22.970 --> 01:21:23.689
This goes online.

01:21:24.170 --> 01:21:29.369
Um, but like just slowly cutting those people kind of out of my life and only reaching out if I have to.

01:21:29.529 --> 01:21:30.250
You know what I mean?

01:21:30.409 --> 01:21:32.809
Like, like doing things along those lines.

01:21:32.889 --> 01:21:36.729
Um, but just focusing on eating more at home.

01:21:36.970 --> 01:21:40.250
You know, things that are gonna make my mind and body feel better.

01:21:40.569 --> 01:21:46.649
And then like the happiness, I want to find like little things in life every day that make life worth living.

01:21:46.809 --> 01:21:47.929
Not that this sounds crazy.

01:21:48.010 --> 01:21:49.210
I was not suicidal.

01:21:49.609 --> 01:22:00.809
I feel like I need to put that like life is worth living, but like sometimes, for example, I whenever I'm driving to work, I go over a bridge where I literally just look over the ocean.

01:22:01.050 --> 01:22:07.609
So, like when I'm in standstill traffic, I can be like, This sucks, but look at my view, you know, like yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:22:07.849 --> 01:22:09.289
Like I it's things like that.

01:22:09.529 --> 01:22:11.769
Um what's the other thing?

01:22:12.090 --> 01:22:15.449
It's not it's not necessarily a suicidal thought that you're having.

01:22:15.529 --> 01:22:37.529
It's yeah, uh, I dealt with this too, and I I feel that I still deal with it on occasion or sometimes often of like not being able to find not necessarily purpose, but sometimes purpose is definitely a big part of it, but also just like feeling like you're no, just feeling like you're wasting.

01:22:38.010 --> 01:22:39.050
Yeah, you know what I mean?

01:22:39.609 --> 01:22:49.210
Yes, like like you look at like your day and you're like I didn't I didn't do anything I'm proud of today.

01:22:49.609 --> 01:22:50.170
Yeah.

01:22:50.489 --> 01:22:53.769
Or like, did I even contribute to society at all?

01:22:54.090 --> 01:22:54.489
Right, right.

01:22:54.649 --> 01:22:59.050
Yeah, feeling like you're wasting or finding or having issues finding your purpose.

01:22:59.449 --> 01:23:12.090
And just like yes, and just going through a routine, like I think that was my problem with being at Starbucks, is I was just like every day, I'm like, I literally, I mean, and I tell Dylan this all the time.

01:23:12.250 --> 01:23:14.569
I have been living here for six months now.

01:23:15.449 --> 01:23:24.090
And it's crazy that like it doesn't feel like six months because I I felt like I it was groundhog day every day, like, and I didn't like that.

01:23:24.170 --> 01:23:29.849
And I felt like like at the place that I'm working now, I get to meet so many people, I get to impact so many lives.

01:23:30.010 --> 01:23:30.889
Like it's fantastic.

01:23:31.050 --> 01:23:36.489
And my brain, my brain yearns for knowledge, and I wasn't getting that at Starbucks.

01:23:36.569 --> 01:23:39.130
Like, I literally was just on empty all the time.

01:23:39.369 --> 01:23:42.569
Um, but no, you're right, because I I dealt with that.

01:23:42.649 --> 01:23:46.970
I mean, I feel like I've been dealing with that the past couple years, it got really bad.

01:23:47.050 --> 01:23:49.769
Where like Matina, like it was it was awful.

01:23:49.849 --> 01:24:05.130
I couldn't find even like I'm the person, I'm sure you could probably attest to this, that like I try to bring the happiness, I try to bring the good vibe, I try to always have a smile on my face, but like the past couple years, it's been harder and harder to do that.

01:24:05.449 --> 01:24:07.369
And I and I hate that, you know.

01:24:08.170 --> 01:24:08.889
Think of your body.

01:24:08.970 --> 01:24:10.329
I've told this to several people.

01:24:10.889 --> 01:24:15.769
Think of your body and your your mental health as a gas tank.

01:24:16.010 --> 01:24:25.369
Yeah, so if you come into this conversation right now with a full tank, yeah, you're using up that tank, right?

01:24:26.010 --> 01:24:29.130
So when you leave here, you're no longer at full.

01:24:29.289 --> 01:24:31.289
Yeah, you might be at 50 percent.

01:24:31.449 --> 01:24:37.769
Yeah, and there's not always a way to re that you're not next to the gas station.

01:24:37.929 --> 01:24:38.569
You know what I mean?

01:24:38.729 --> 01:24:41.609
Like, yeah, there's not always a chance to fill up.

01:24:42.489 --> 01:24:46.250
So, like, that's that helped me deal with those thoughts.

01:24:47.050 --> 01:25:02.889
Um also not encouraging this as an avenue for mental health, but like I still struggle with finding purpose, but I struggle much less now with my wasting mindset because of having Adam.

01:25:03.369 --> 01:25:11.449
Because like I'm still trying to find my purpose, my legacy, what what I want to be, right?

01:25:11.769 --> 01:25:14.329
Yeah, and and like success.

01:25:14.649 --> 01:25:17.210
I I'm trying to find success.

01:25:17.449 --> 01:25:29.449
Yeah, and that is something that I still struggle with, but every day I get to spend any moment with him, it's not a waste, yeah.

01:25:29.849 --> 01:25:37.689
I I will say too, and I because I feel like this year too, there's been so much change, and like my mind hasn't.

01:25:37.929 --> 01:25:39.449
I was actually telling Lauren about this.

01:25:39.529 --> 01:25:41.849
I I went through like when I first started my job.

01:25:42.090 --> 01:25:45.529
Sorry, this is gonna be a long, I know we're we're we're going on.

01:25:45.689 --> 01:25:48.010
Um this is important, honestly.

01:25:48.729 --> 01:25:54.489
When I started my job, I remember like I was sending her a Snapchat video and like because I was terrified.

01:25:54.569 --> 01:26:00.329
I was like, this is a whole like for the first time in my life, scared to start something new.

01:26:00.569 --> 01:26:06.329
And like I was like, I was just crying on the Snapchat video, and because she is she has seen me at my worst.

01:26:06.409 --> 01:26:07.849
Bless her, she is amazing.

01:26:08.090 --> 01:26:17.849
Um, but I was like, I've just had so much change the past year, and it has just been my mind hasn't like caught up to it.

01:26:17.929 --> 01:26:18.569
Do you know what I mean?

01:26:18.649 --> 01:26:23.130
Like I graduated honestly, the next the past two years, I graduated college.

01:26:23.289 --> 01:26:25.130
I did some of the hardest four years of my life.

01:26:25.210 --> 01:26:28.809
I graduated college, I graduated with a decently high GPA.

01:26:29.130 --> 01:26:32.170
I then started like working at Bath and Body Works.

01:26:32.329 --> 01:26:36.250
I know people are like, oh my God, that wasn't, but it was my like my first like job job.

01:26:36.329 --> 01:26:38.170
Like I started at Bath and Body Works.

01:26:38.250 --> 01:26:44.809
I I moved from Ohio being with our mom, where I had been, you know, my whole life with her.

01:26:44.970 --> 01:26:49.689
I moved in with you guys to help with Adam and set went running with that.

01:26:49.769 --> 01:26:50.889
And I did that for a while.

01:26:50.970 --> 01:26:52.569
And then I came back.

01:26:52.649 --> 01:26:55.689
And when I came back to Ohio, I was only there for about three weeks.

01:26:55.929 --> 01:26:58.090
And then I moved to Florida.

01:26:58.170 --> 01:27:02.409
Like I feel like I have done so much that, like, so many scary things.

01:27:02.489 --> 01:27:04.489
Like to me, all of those things are like they're scary.

01:27:05.210 --> 01:27:05.609
That's a lie.

01:27:06.250 --> 01:27:06.970
It's a lie.

01:27:07.449 --> 01:27:11.689
And then when I when I got here and Dylan was like, you don't need a job.

01:27:11.849 --> 01:27:14.090
Like, he was very much against me getting a job right away.

01:27:14.250 --> 01:27:20.889
He was like, I want you to hang out, you know, find your ground, like just find you and have a good time.

01:27:21.050 --> 01:27:22.809
Like I can take care of us right now.

01:27:22.970 --> 01:27:23.929
Don't worry about it.

01:27:24.170 --> 01:27:25.210
I didn't like that answer.

01:27:25.289 --> 01:27:26.489
I don't like feeling broke.

01:27:26.729 --> 01:27:28.970
I wanted to be able to spend my money how I want to spend it.

01:27:29.050 --> 01:27:30.809
So I got my job at Starbucks.

01:27:31.050 --> 01:27:34.569
Um, and again, I didn't have time to think about it.

01:27:34.729 --> 01:27:36.569
Like I never had time to think about it.

01:27:36.729 --> 01:27:38.889
And then I started this job.

01:27:39.289 --> 01:27:45.689
And just instantly, like my first day, it felt like everything came crashing at once.

01:27:45.769 --> 01:27:48.010
And I'm like, this because I had quit at Starbucks.

01:27:48.170 --> 01:27:51.130
And this is a job, like this is a career type job, right?

01:27:51.210 --> 01:27:54.090
Like this is something that's going to be a stepping stone for whatever I want to do.

01:27:54.170 --> 01:27:57.609
And I'm like, this, I could, this can go one of two ways, literally.

01:27:57.769 --> 01:27:59.529
And either way, it'll be fine, right?

01:27:59.609 --> 01:28:04.970
I had to keep reminding myself that like nothing worthwhile in life comes easy ever.

01:28:05.369 --> 01:28:07.449
Like it's something you have to work towards.

01:28:07.609 --> 01:28:09.849
But I was like, well, this is so scary.

01:28:10.010 --> 01:28:18.409
And like, even with driving, like I had like when I started at Starbucks, Dylan drove me the first couple of times so that I could get comfortable with the roads and watching him do it.

01:28:18.649 --> 01:28:19.609
I didn't have that.

01:28:19.849 --> 01:28:21.210
I didn't know where I was going.

01:28:21.369 --> 01:28:23.529
I was, I don't do well in traffic.

01:28:23.689 --> 01:28:25.289
Like, like I had to just go.

01:28:25.449 --> 01:28:26.889
I had to just go and do it.

01:28:27.130 --> 01:28:29.929
Um, but yeah, no, it was it was really hard.

01:28:30.010 --> 01:28:33.369
And all that to say, like moving to Florida, I am the happiest I've ever been.

01:28:33.449 --> 01:28:48.010
I think that that has really helped fill my cup up because I not that I wasn't surrounded by people that loved me before, like obviously you guys love me, but like Dylan is incredible in the sense of like making sure that I'm taken care of.

01:28:48.569 --> 01:28:56.409
Whatever, whatever it may be, whatever it needs, like he will go to the ends of the earth to make sure that I have what I need so that I can be the best person that I can be.

01:28:56.649 --> 01:29:04.010
And then finding like I have found friends that just pour into my cup all the time, and and they are so supportive of everything all the time.

01:29:04.090 --> 01:29:05.689
Like I get to experience girlhood.

01:29:05.769 --> 01:29:07.050
And I tell Makenna this too.

01:29:07.130 --> 01:29:12.329
Like, whenever I was in Virginia, like I got to really experience girlhood, I feel like for the first time.

01:29:12.489 --> 01:29:14.809
Cause she was the same way, and even now she is.

01:29:15.050 --> 01:29:17.369
Like we call all the time, we talk all the time.

01:29:17.449 --> 01:29:22.090
And it's like she was always like always there, like always there to support me.

01:29:22.409 --> 01:29:22.729
Right, right.

01:29:22.970 --> 01:29:27.449
Um, but anyways, yeah, I don't want to like drag on this feels crazy.

01:29:27.529 --> 01:29:28.569
I now forget the point.

01:29:28.729 --> 01:29:38.170
Oh, the point of like still being able to find some sort of happiness and not getting into that mindset because that's a mindset I I don't like being in that mindset.

01:29:38.250 --> 01:29:39.849
And even Dilla noticed it.

01:29:40.010 --> 01:29:43.210
He was like, I I can notice that like I'm just not as happy.

01:29:43.449 --> 01:29:44.170
You know what I mean?

01:29:44.250 --> 01:29:50.409
Like it was it was really, really hard for a while just to find happiness, which sucks.

01:29:50.489 --> 01:30:01.929
And like, because I I like I said I like being the person who I'm always trying to, you know, have a smile on my face and like lift everybody up because I want that positivity.

01:30:02.170 --> 01:30:07.689
But then once that like all the positivity was sucked away from my body, I was like, I don't, I can't radiate it.

01:30:07.849 --> 01:30:14.329
Like, and I could feel it like in my spirit, in my mind, like in my motivation and everything.

01:30:14.569 --> 01:30:21.210
So and this year I really want to focus on not losing that spark.

01:30:21.369 --> 01:30:26.809
It might dim, but not because it was it was blown out in the water, not relit for a while.

01:30:26.970 --> 01:30:36.250
So I do I do want to focus on just having that and making sure that I'm nurturing that so that it can go from a little spark to a big bonfire.

01:30:36.489 --> 01:30:37.210
There you go.

01:30:37.449 --> 01:30:39.609
Anywho, sorry, that was so long.

01:30:39.929 --> 01:30:48.889
Uh no, uh mental health is important, and again, like this is something that could actually help somebody that's listening, you know.

01:30:49.849 --> 01:30:51.849
Somebody out there might be feeling the same way that you are.

01:30:52.010 --> 01:30:56.809
Yeah, I mean, I I went through that exact scenario, like I felt that exact same way.

01:30:56.970 --> 01:31:01.929
Yeah, um, my my biggest one that I struggle with is the failure.

01:31:02.090 --> 01:31:12.409
Like, yeah, um, and we'll talk about it much, uh, especially on here, but like I'm a failed musician.

01:31:12.889 --> 01:31:31.369
I am a failed salesperson, like I've had a lot of failure, and um and the show wasn't doing super well, like like we had this peak where we were doing pretty good, and then it started to just plummet out of nowhere.

01:31:31.609 --> 01:31:40.809
So, like that was just another chalk up on the failure, and then like things just kind of started to change a little bit this past year.

01:31:41.130 --> 01:31:46.329
So But do you think um I don't like the word failure.

01:31:46.409 --> 01:31:49.369
We're we're gonna switch that because I think you only fail if you give up on it.

01:31:49.689 --> 01:31:52.409
And never once would did you give up on it, right?

01:31:52.569 --> 01:31:56.090
Like even if you weren't seeing the outcome you wanted, that sucks.

01:31:56.250 --> 01:31:57.050
Like, I'll give that to you.

01:31:57.130 --> 01:31:57.449
That's it.

01:31:57.609 --> 01:32:02.329
I mean, the the music thing has kind of the life that I've kind of moved past.

01:32:02.970 --> 01:32:12.170
But you still you were teaching guitar, you still play your guitar for Adam, you still listen to music and love music.

01:32:12.250 --> 01:32:14.489
Like being a musician, you're always a musician.

01:32:14.649 --> 01:32:16.409
I have not picked up a trumpet in two years.

01:32:16.489 --> 01:32:17.529
I'm still a musician.

01:32:17.769 --> 01:32:18.409
Oh, yeah.

01:32:18.729 --> 01:32:24.250
Like it's one of those things that like I don't like not a failed musician.

01:32:24.409 --> 01:32:27.449
I've I had a career.

01:32:27.769 --> 01:32:28.729
A career, yeah.

01:32:28.889 --> 01:32:34.250
Yeah, and that's my yeah, my actual career that I do on a day-to-day basis.

01:32:34.569 --> 01:32:38.649
Like, dude, what crushed me is not getting that promotion.

01:32:38.889 --> 01:32:43.050
Like, truly, when that happened, that was that was it for me.

01:32:43.289 --> 01:32:48.409
I was like, fuck, everything is going down hard fast.

01:32:49.369 --> 01:33:04.569
Um, and then unfortunately, I worked with somebody who set their goals on making me feel bad about myself, and and like that was a scary place to be.

01:33:04.729 --> 01:33:10.729
So yeah, um I understand, like, yeah, yeah, it's tough.

01:33:10.970 --> 01:33:12.090
No, it's it's hard.

01:33:12.250 --> 01:33:13.689
Are you doing better now though?

01:33:13.929 --> 01:33:15.449
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

01:33:17.449 --> 01:33:19.769
Yeah, I've I mean, I still feel that way.

01:33:19.849 --> 01:33:43.529
I still feel that I failed at a music career, but I look at the things that I got to do in the short time that I had doing it, and and honestly, I I know Chris listens to the show, and I know a handful of other people from work too, but like, dude, doing what I do now and having because I didn't tell people that I was a musician.

01:33:43.689 --> 01:33:48.489
Yeah, I did that open mic, and that one guy happened to be there, and that's how I got out.

01:33:48.729 --> 01:34:01.130
And like, since then, talking to people about what I've done musically, and you know, them saying how incredible it is, and and being excited about like the things that I've done.

01:34:01.369 --> 01:34:10.809
Yes, like that makes me feel better about what I did accomplish and not so bad about what I didn't.

01:34:11.050 --> 01:34:11.689
Yeah.

01:34:12.090 --> 01:34:16.409
Um, wish that my day-to-day job had the same outcome.

01:34:16.729 --> 01:34:17.769
Ain't that the truth?

01:34:18.010 --> 01:34:20.010
But yeah, nothing I can do about that one.

01:34:20.090 --> 01:34:24.010
Unfortunately, the the company just doesn't identify hard work.

01:34:24.809 --> 01:34:31.130
I will say, um, like with Starbucks, even though I absolutely despised being there, I loved the people there.

01:34:31.210 --> 01:34:33.769
Like that, it was really hard to leave because of the people.

01:34:34.170 --> 01:34:39.769
Um, but like I got a text the other day from a girl who just started, like, literally started.

01:34:39.929 --> 01:34:41.769
I worked four times with her before I left.

01:34:41.849 --> 01:34:42.569
Like, she just started.

01:34:42.729 --> 01:34:44.729
And she texted me, she said, Hey, I wanted to reach out.

01:34:44.809 --> 01:34:47.769
I wanted to see like how the job is, like how everything's going for you.

01:34:47.849 --> 01:34:49.289
And I'm like, that is so sweet.

01:34:49.449 --> 01:34:55.689
So like I told her, and she was like, Yeah, she said I was thinking of you, like everyone was talking about you today, like your presence is really missed.

01:34:55.929 --> 01:35:01.210
She was like, she said that there's just like a shift and everything in it, and that made me feel better.

01:35:01.289 --> 01:35:09.529
I was like, all the pain and torture I went through and like the spiritual battle, because the way I was like, I could quit this right now and just forget my bills.

01:35:10.170 --> 01:35:20.329
Now, I I will say, as far as like my feelings towards this show, just yes, you know, for everybody that's listening, and again, thank you so much for everybody that listens.

01:35:20.409 --> 01:35:22.250
I see every single one of you.

01:35:22.569 --> 01:35:26.090
Um, thank you so much for all of our new listeners.

01:35:26.250 --> 01:35:30.170
I I know there are new listeners because I see all that information.

01:35:30.489 --> 01:35:37.210
But the downside to me seeing all of the information on everything is like seeing the numbers.

01:35:37.769 --> 01:35:59.289
Well, there the numbers are fine, but there's nothing more defeating than thinking you're building a fan base and a community of people that enjoy what you're doing, and you put something out there for them to respond to and let you know they exist, yeah, and getting nothing, dude.

01:35:59.529 --> 01:36:04.250
Like it's stuff like that that can just really, really impact my day.

01:36:04.569 --> 01:36:14.329
Like, recently put up something offering um 30 free Patreon subscriptions, just 30 of them for free.

01:36:14.569 --> 01:36:18.569
Yeah, all you had to do was respond yes to the post.

01:36:19.609 --> 01:36:20.569
No one did.

01:36:20.809 --> 01:36:22.250
No one no one did it.

01:36:22.329 --> 01:36:34.970
Like, well, you also have to think too, like, I know that I look at those, I don't ever respond to them because people also think like this is an awful mindset, but they're like, What's the point?

01:36:35.050 --> 01:36:36.569
It's probably not gonna be me.

01:36:37.369 --> 01:36:38.729
Do you know what I mean?

01:36:39.050 --> 01:36:40.569
I mean, that's fair, I guess.

01:36:40.809 --> 01:36:46.329
It's just it, those those types of things can be as somebody that puts so much work into this specifically.

01:36:46.489 --> 01:36:53.689
I mean, hell, we've been on here for an hour and 30 minutes, and like I put so much time and effort into it every single week.

01:36:53.769 --> 01:36:55.929
I I'm doing three shows a week now.

01:36:56.170 --> 01:36:56.889
Three shows.

01:36:56.970 --> 01:36:58.090
That's crazy.

01:36:58.329 --> 01:36:59.449
Yeah, yeah, dude.

01:36:59.529 --> 01:37:02.489
I put a lot of work and effort into this, yeah.

01:37:02.809 --> 01:37:14.889
And money and to to offer, you know, 30 people the chance to enjoy more than I I do here for free, and then nobody takes it up.

01:37:15.050 --> 01:37:20.250
It just makes you feel like, yeah, all right, well then why am I doing this?

01:37:20.729 --> 01:37:25.130
Do you think that might be a sign though to be like, hey, slow down, you're not ready for that step yet?

01:37:25.289 --> 01:37:27.529
Like that's a lot, like you're already doing a lot.

01:37:27.689 --> 01:37:28.729
Like, take a step back.

01:37:28.889 --> 01:37:29.210
Do you not?

01:37:29.769 --> 01:37:31.449
Maybe, maybe, yeah.

01:37:32.090 --> 01:37:33.050
Yeah, sorry.

01:37:33.369 --> 01:37:34.409
You know, no, it's all right.

01:37:34.489 --> 01:37:41.369
It that's just one of those things, though, that like having that happen can be extremely defeating on your mental health.

01:37:41.609 --> 01:37:42.409
Oh, for sure.

01:37:42.889 --> 01:37:45.849
We're doing well, things are moving, things are growing.

01:37:45.929 --> 01:37:52.170
Yeah, let me put this out there, yeah, and then getting zero support.

01:37:53.289 --> 01:37:55.769
Yeah, you know, that's just it's tough.

01:37:55.849 --> 01:37:56.329
It's tough.

01:37:56.409 --> 01:37:59.689
It is, but that's also the the that's on me.

01:37:59.849 --> 01:38:07.929
Like that's I've put myself in this space, and I have to be able to deal with the consequences with the with the disappointment.

01:38:08.170 --> 01:38:09.369
Yeah, yeah.

01:38:09.689 --> 01:38:18.489
I'm not trying to be famous, I'm just trying to make sure that there's somebody out there that listens that's like hey, I do listen every week.

01:38:18.649 --> 01:38:21.130
Like, like knowing that Prima Lone listens every week.

01:38:21.449 --> 01:38:24.090
She does she literally texts me about it all the time.

01:38:24.329 --> 01:38:28.170
Literally having one person say, like, no, I listen to you guys every week.

01:38:28.329 --> 01:38:29.289
Every week, she does.

01:38:29.449 --> 01:38:32.329
Because because that means that she does it and I do it.

01:38:32.489 --> 01:38:33.609
Yeah, you know what I mean?

01:38:33.849 --> 01:38:35.130
And I know Chris does.

01:38:35.369 --> 01:38:35.769
Yeah.

01:38:36.010 --> 01:38:37.449
So yeah.

01:38:39.210 --> 01:38:41.289
Anywho, wow, that got deep so quick.

01:38:41.449 --> 01:38:43.289
Okay, cut all of that.

01:38:43.529 --> 01:38:45.689
So Pokemon had his 30th year anniversary.

01:38:45.849 --> 01:38:47.609
So happy anniversary, Pokemon.

01:38:47.849 --> 01:38:49.369
Um, that is so fun.

01:38:49.529 --> 01:38:51.529
Sorry we did not get to the gaming part.

01:38:51.769 --> 01:38:52.569
No, that's okay.

01:38:52.649 --> 01:38:53.769
We'll do that another time.

01:38:53.929 --> 01:38:54.970
There's plenty of time.

01:38:55.369 --> 01:38:56.329
There's all there's time.

01:38:56.409 --> 01:38:58.329
There's yeah, we're we're living on time.

01:38:58.569 --> 01:38:59.210
Yeah.

01:38:59.609 --> 01:39:10.170
Um, but all of all of that being said, if you could, if you're listening, if you could please, if you're not already, uh if you could please follow the Instagram.

01:39:10.409 --> 01:39:11.689
Yeah, follow the gram.

01:39:12.170 --> 01:39:15.130
Because uh I will be completely honest with everybody here.

01:39:15.210 --> 01:39:16.489
I say that a long, a lot.

01:39:16.649 --> 01:39:17.849
That should be a t-shirt.

01:39:18.569 --> 01:39:20.250
I'm gonna be completely honest.

01:39:21.689 --> 01:39:24.250
Uh I will be making that shirt this afternoon.

01:39:24.649 --> 01:39:33.689
But but for real though, like I don't think people understand how much the number of Instagram followers matter for what we do.

01:39:34.010 --> 01:39:34.970
Yes, to get it.

01:39:35.369 --> 01:39:47.609
If you have been listening, if you've been listening and you've been like, man, they're having a bit of a slow uh 2026, uh, it's because we haven't had a growth.

01:39:47.849 --> 01:39:55.929
Like 2025 got us to 450 and now we're at 480, which is growth.

01:39:56.170 --> 01:40:05.849
But like when a PR company looks at that and they say, Okay, well, you grew, you know, 12%.

01:40:06.649 --> 01:40:12.569
Yeah, we're we're we're gonna keep getting the and there's nothing wrong with any of these artists.

01:40:12.889 --> 01:40:27.210
I love every single artist that comes on this show, but we're going to keep getting the hey, we have you know, this new band out of Tennessee or whatever, when we've sent you a request for.

01:40:27.689 --> 01:40:28.250
Somebody else.

01:40:28.489 --> 01:40:35.689
Like I send requests for specific artists, and sometimes we get responses where they're like, Yes, absolutely.

01:40:35.929 --> 01:40:43.609
Other times they look at it and say, Well, we don't see the benefit, so we're gonna give you this artist instead.

01:40:43.849 --> 01:40:48.090
Yeah, and that number unfortunately just matters a lot in this industry.

01:40:48.250 --> 01:40:53.849
Yeah, that's that's what society has done to this industry.

01:40:54.010 --> 01:40:56.250
That number matters a lot.

01:40:56.649 --> 01:40:57.529
Crazy.

01:40:58.090 --> 01:41:01.929
I can give them the statistics from the show all day long, they don't care.

01:41:03.449 --> 01:41:04.970
So, anyways, crazy.

01:41:05.130 --> 01:41:07.929
Anywho guys, we do love everyone who listens, though.

01:41:08.010 --> 01:41:16.569
We really all of our guests, and all of our guests, you guys are fantastic, and it really makes like I love the guests that we get on the small ones, big ones.

01:41:16.649 --> 01:41:17.210
I don't care.

01:41:17.369 --> 01:41:19.929
They honestly, I know to you it makes a difference.

01:41:20.090 --> 01:41:22.569
I cannot tell one from another.

01:41:22.809 --> 01:41:24.329
I just want to hear your life story.

01:41:24.409 --> 01:41:28.489
Like to me, you are just another person, and that's just kind of unless your name is Scott Belisi.

01:41:29.689 --> 01:41:34.970
With that being said, um, yeah, no, I get it.

01:41:35.050 --> 01:41:35.689
It's hard.

01:41:35.929 --> 01:41:36.569
Yeah.

01:41:36.889 --> 01:41:37.289
All right.

01:41:37.369 --> 01:41:39.289
Well, this was a good therapy session.

01:41:39.609 --> 01:41:40.889
This was um crazy.

01:41:40.970 --> 01:41:41.849
This was going on on the internet.

01:41:42.090 --> 01:41:43.130
I think we should redo everything.

01:41:43.289 --> 01:41:44.729
You busy tomorrow?

01:41:46.170 --> 01:41:47.369
No, it's fine, it's fine.

01:41:47.449 --> 01:41:48.090
Everything's fine.

01:41:48.409 --> 01:41:48.970
Super good.

01:41:49.050 --> 01:41:50.889
I I'm actually excited about this one.

01:41:51.050 --> 01:41:53.849
We really dove deep into this.

01:41:54.170 --> 01:41:56.729
This might be our longest episode, actually.

01:41:56.970 --> 01:41:59.369
I think we should make them two hours all the time.

01:41:59.769 --> 01:42:00.729
I don't think an hour is an hour.

01:42:01.050 --> 01:42:02.170
Lindsay would kill me, dude.

01:42:02.329 --> 01:42:03.210
You'd be a goner.

01:42:05.210 --> 01:42:07.369
Well, tell Lindsay I'm sorry.

01:42:07.769 --> 01:42:09.289
No, it's okay.

01:42:09.849 --> 01:42:15.289
Well, go uh go go follow the Instagram.

01:42:15.369 --> 01:42:17.289
You just heard everything of why that's so important.

01:42:17.449 --> 01:42:19.449
Um, we have our new the websites up.

01:42:19.609 --> 01:42:25.210
Um, it's not, I mean it's it's new, but like we have our store up, so go purchase some from the store.

01:42:25.289 --> 01:42:27.369
Everything's merch store is awesome.

01:42:27.609 --> 01:42:29.130
Yeah, the quality is great.

01:42:29.449 --> 01:42:30.010
They're great.

01:42:30.170 --> 01:42:31.609
I my t-shirt's great.

01:42:31.769 --> 01:42:33.449
Um, my hat is great.

01:42:34.010 --> 01:42:37.769
If you have ideas for merch, if you've got ideas for merch, let us know.

01:42:37.929 --> 01:42:39.289
Like gladly.

01:42:39.529 --> 01:42:40.170
Yeah.

01:42:40.409 --> 01:42:41.849
Um, what else?

01:42:42.010 --> 01:42:49.849
Go ahead and give it a big thumbs up, subscribe, and I guess hit that bell notification so you can notify every time we post a new two hour video.

01:42:50.569 --> 01:42:51.609
All right, everybody.

01:42:51.769 --> 01:42:52.809
It's been real.

01:42:53.449 --> 01:42:54.729
Uh, where are we at here?

01:42:54.970 --> 01:42:55.449
Peace.